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      NinthWave @uptownVagrant
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      @uptownvagrant
      When you made the post with the 100/100 connection, how did you come with the bandwidth values for IN and OUT ?

      I have tried your settings but the upload is now very bad.
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      Sometimes it even gets down to zero.

      Any idea ?

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        bobbenheim @NinthWave
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        @ninthwave What are your settings?

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          NinthWave @bobbenheim
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          @bobbenheim
          Exactly those but with a 100/30 connection
          https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/815

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            bobbenheim @NinthWave
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            @ninthwave try ticking off ecn under limiter

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              NinthWave @bobbenheim
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              @bobbenheim
              No result. Up speed keeps dying after a few seconds.
              Which screen capture can I add to help figure out ?

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                bobbenheim @NinthWave
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                @ninthwave Have you changed any other settings than applying fq-codel? You could try running TCP Optimizer if you are using windows.

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                  Zeny001 @Larrikin
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                  @larrikin said in Playing with fq_codel in 2.4:

                  For those who want to know how exactly I got it working, you can find the instructions here:

                  https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/pfsense_traffic_shaping

                  A big thanks to @TheNarc for pointing me in this direction.

                  Also a big thanks to all the others who contributed to helping me troubleshoot. I am most grateful you took your own personal time to help me.

                  Thanks for this. I was running the dummynet version and after a few months I started to get my bandwidth fucked all the time... I figured something must have bugged out and did a fresh install and kept having the same issue.... Without dummynet and a ton of bufferbloat I was getting 990mbps download and 40 mbps upload.... My package from isp is 1gb/30mbps upload. Dummynet was giving me anywhere from 150mbps to 300mbps download and 0.1mbps upload.

                  I decided to go the wizard ALTQ version which is listed in your link and now I have A for bufferbloat and 980mbps download and 35 mbps upload. I'm satisfied with this thanks!

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                    NinthWave @NinthWave
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                    @ninthwave said in Playing with fq_codel in 2.4:

                    @uptownvagrant
                    When you made the post with the 100/100 connection, how did you come with the bandwidth values for IN and OUT ?

                    I have tried your settings but the upload is now very bad.
                    08477597-b665-48ff-a147-fae31ab3ca96-image.png

                    Sometimes it even gets down to zero.

                    Any idea ?

                    Maybe I should point out that I have a VOIP service which the vast majority of those having great result don't use.

                    Plus, I have enabled OpenVPN that I rarely use to check my IP cameras from my cell when I out. But from I have read, the OpenVPN service might be having an effect.

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                      andresmorago @uptownVagrant
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                      @uptownvagrant said in Playing with fq_codel in 2.4:

                      WAN-Out FQ-CoDel queue

                      Hello to all
                      I have been trying to configure my limiters based on @uptownVagrant tutorial. Im having some issues with the upload speeds as the Bandwidth parameter under the FQ_CODEL_OUT doesnt seem to correctly work for me.
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                      i have a 150/10 cable connection which, without traffic shaper provides the following speed results. they are according to what i pay for.

                      Server: Movistar - Barranquilla (id = 17577)
                                   ISP: Telmex Colombia S.A.
                               Latency:    41.25 ms   (2.60 ms jitter)
                              Download:   156.14 Mbps (data used: 152.1 MB)
                                Upload:    11.07 Mbps (data used: 11.5 MB)
                           Packet Loss:     0.0%
                      

                      Setting the upload to 9 Mbits/s will completely block all uploads from my LAN clients. internet access is pretty much dead with this setup.

                        Server: Movistar - Barranquilla (id = 17577)
                           ISP: Telmex Colombia S.A.
                       Latency:    36.99 ms   (3.52 ms jitter)
                      Download:   140.77 Mbps (data used: 171.6 MB)
                      Upload:     FAILED
                      [error] Protocol error: Did not receive HELLO
                      

                      so i decided to "illogically" increase the upload. test with 50 Mbits/s

                        Server: Movistar - Barranquilla (id = 17577)
                           ISP: Telmex Colombia S.A.
                       Latency:    43.55 ms   (4.42 ms jitter)
                      Download:   142.25 Mbps (data used: 193.6 MB)
                        Upload:     4.07 Mbps (data used: 7.0 MB)
                      Packet Loss:     0.0%
                      

                      i increased the upload parameter one more time. this time to 100 Mbit/s (which is 10x larger than my real upload speed)

                        Server: Movistar - Barranquilla (id = 17577)
                           ISP: Telmex Colombia S.A.
                       Latency:    42.05 ms   (3.65 ms jitter)
                      Download:   139.95 Mbps (data used: 189.6 MB)
                        Upload:    10.10 Mbps (data used: 16.5 MB)
                      Packet Loss:     0.0%
                      

                      is there anything im missing or omitting on my setup?
                      why does the upload parameter seem to divide the upload speed by 10?

                      Here are my parameters so far:

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                        mind12 @andresmorago
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                        @andresmorago Seems like you have switched the limit and flows parameter values.
                        Limit should be 10240 and flows 20480

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                          Ricardox @mind12
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                          @mind12 For me so it works perfectlyImagem-5.png Imagem-4.png Imagem-3.png Imagem-2.png Imagem-1.jpg

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                            mind12 @Ricardox
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                            @ricardox You also have 10240 configured for the limiter not 20480.

                            Can you achieve your max speed with such a low queue lengths?
                            I lost about 15Mbit/s from my 150Mbit download even with a 10K queue length.

                            Why is the gateway empty for the In queue fw rule? I thought it's a must.
                            And what's that 100 Weight for in the child queue? Never saw that elsewhere.

                            Thx

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                              zwck @mind12
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                              @mind12 is there a general rule of thumb how to choose target interval quantum limit and flow ?

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                                mind12 @zwck
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                                @zwck
                                Idk, I have just used the same working config as others here from this post: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/815

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                                  Pentangle @andresmorago
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                                  @andresmorago Check out your floating firewall rules in/out pipes - are they switched?

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                                    Ricardox @mind12
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                                    @mind12 For my 200/100 MB network I have no loss of speed. X86 PC

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                                      Ricardox @zwck
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                                      @zwck I believe not, change the values and test, for my network these values work well.

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                                        zwck @Ricardox
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                                        @ricardox whats your advertised line speed?

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                                            TheNarc
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                                            I don't mean to hijack the thread, but has anyone else seen any catastrophic issues with adjusting fq_codel parameters since upgrading to 2.5.0? I was playing with one of my systems that had limit and flows both set to 1024. The consensus - as much as there is one - seems to be that 10240 and 20480, respectively, may yield better results so long as you're not memory constrained. I have 4GB and it was rarely more than 20 to 30% utilized so I thought I'd try.

                                            Now, for full disclosure, there was some negligence on my part and I was following @andresmorago's post which accidentally had these values flipped (so 20480 for limit and 10240 for flows). When I set those values and applied, the pfSense system became unresponsive (even to pings). I eventually had to resort to hard powering it off, but it didn't come back when I turned it back on either. So I connected a monitor and was able to observe that at some point in the boot process, it began rapidly spamming the period character (.), and did so at such a rate that it was impossible to view the last boot message before this happened. If I were better versed in FreeBSD I may have known what to do to glean more useful information, but I had unhappy users so I just resorted to doing a fresh 2.5.0 installation and restoration of a config backup.

                                            Also of note, after that config backup, I threw caution to the wind and tried to update the parameters again, but this time to limit 10240 and flows 20480. That time, which I clicked apply, the system spontaneously rebooted. It did come back, and the new values had been applied, but I don't know what happened there.

                                            So this isn't really a support request, more just wondering if anyone else has seen any weirdness along these lines. I'm wary of adjusting these parameters any more now as well lest I need to perform a full reinstallation again. I also can't directly implicate 2.5.0 specifically here, although I believe this was the first time I changed the fq_codel params since upgrading, and I know that prior to the upgrade I had done a lot of experimentation with changing them without any issues.

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