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    To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :)

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    • bingo600B Offline
      bingo600
      last edited by

      Arrghhhh ..... 😧

      You guyzz just cost me 2 new Samsung EVO 870 - 256GB disks for my two home pfsense(s)

      I gotta try that ZFS snapshot feature.

      And if i have to install 2.5.1 soon , i can just do it from scratch w. ZFS 😊

      /Bingo

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      pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

      QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
      CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
      LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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      • chudakC Offline
        chudak @bingo600
        last edited by

        @bingo600 said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

        Arrghhhh ..... 😧

        You guyzz just cost me 2 new Samsung EVO 870 - 256GB disks for my two home pfsense(s)

        I gotta try that ZFS snapshot feature.

        And if i have to install 2.5.1 soon , i can just do it from scratch w. ZFS 😊

        /Bingo

        So I guess the steps would be:

        fresh pfSense 2.x.x install
        make sure zfs selected
        restore pfSense back up

        and then what? how do you create and restore zfs snapshots of pfSense?

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        • bingo600B Offline
          bingo600 @chudak
          last edited by

          @chudak

          I hope like this

          https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?zfs

          https://danielisz.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/zfs-snapshot-on-freebsd/
          https://danielisz.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/zfs-snapshot-on-freebsd-part-2/

          https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-zfs-snapshots-clones/

          /Bingo

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          pfSense+ 23.05.1 (ZFS)

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          CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
          LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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          • chudakC Offline
            chudak @bingo600
            last edited by

            @bingo600 said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

            @chudak

            I hope like this

            https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?zfs

            https://danielisz.wordpress.com/2018/04/14/zfs-snapshot-on-freebsd/
            https://danielisz.wordpress.com/2018/04/20/zfs-snapshot-on-freebsd-part-2/

            https://www.maketecheasier.com/use-zfs-snapshots-clones/

            /Bingo

            Thanks for the info !

            Side note: you know every time I need to do anything with zfs I read very long complex explanations. Given that I am clueless about zfs, of cause... But should it be an easy, something like: run "blah-blah back-up" and then "blah-blah restore" ?! ( mumbling aloud :) )

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            • B Offline
              bartkowski
              last edited by

              I upgraded my SG-2440 without any issues (I disabled pfBlockerNG before).
              I initiated the upgrade from GUI and then went to the store, came back, and it was done. Smooth.

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              • AstraeaA Offline
                Astraea
                last edited by

                Well I tried the new 2.5.1 update and had to roll back again to 2.4.5-p1 as Open VPN clients to my VPN service would not connect and also my multi-WAN setup would not allow for the port forwards to work. I have read there are issues with both OpenVPN and with Multi-WAN setups since the release of 2.5

                Trying to get onto 2.5 since its release but have to keep rolling back, my next move it to try a clean install at a later date but for now, I will have to stay on the older version

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                • bingo600B Offline
                  bingo600 @chudak
                  last edited by

                  @chudak
                  The only thing that gave me an issue w. ZFS on 2.4.5 , was that it "barfed" during install. That no disk was selcted.
                  Easy solved , just select the disk in the menu , before clikking proceed.

                  /Bingo

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                  • chpalmerC Offline
                    chpalmer @bingo600
                    last edited by

                    I had to add one of my interfaces back to my LAGG used for my WAN.

                    I had to go to each openVPN server config page and simply hit "save" to get my VPN's back up. I did not have to do this to any of the remote sites on the other end of the VPN's

                    Otherwise up and working.

                    Triggering snowflakes one by one..
                    Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                    • QinnQ Offline
                      Qinn @chudak
                      last edited by Qinn

                      @chudak It's rather easy, first you create the snapshots. In the beginning snapshot are 0MB. They will grow with every change. Then upgrade to let's say 2.5.0 and after the upgrade they will have "kinda" the size of a complete pfSense installation, as everything has changed due to the upgrade and the snapshot "saves" all the changes. When you rollback (that's how a restore is called) all is back as to the moment the snapshots were created.

                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      • chudakC Offline
                        chudak @Qinn
                        last edited by

                        @qinn said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                        @chudak It's rather easy, first you create the snapshots. In the beginning snapshot are 0MB. They will grow with every change. Then upgrade to let's say 2.5.0 and after the upgrade they will have "kinda" the size of a complete pfSense installation, as everything has changed due to the upgrade and the snapshot "saves" all the changes. When you rollback (that's how a restore is called) all is back as to the moment the snapshots were created.

                        Sounds good !
                        I've started a small VM to test and installed 2.5.1 on zfs

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                        Do you know command lines how to test it ?

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                        • AKEGECA Offline
                          AKEGEC
                          last edited by

                          I just want to warn people about downgrade to previous pfsense versions with current configuration settings, After you downgrade and restored using current backup configuration, make sure you check every settings. Some security Encryption settings could be changed to lowest security e.g. 512 bits to 256 or 128 bits.

                          I feel really sorry for users that experienced problems. 😢 😢 😢

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                          • bingo600B Offline
                            bingo600 @AKEGEC
                            last edited by

                            @akegec said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                            I just want to warn people about downgrade to previous pfsense versions with current configuration settings, After you downgrade and restored using current backup configuration, make sure you check every settings. Some security Encryption settings could be changed to lowest security e.g. 512 bits to 256 or 128 bits.

                            I feel really sorry for users that experienced problems. 😢 😢 😢

                            Nice "warning"

                            To me it seems like you are referring to OpenVPN encryptopn settings or ???

                            And i suppose you are talking about restoring a config made on a 2.5.x system , onto a "clean" 2.4.5 ??

                            That post needs further explanation , please elaborate a bit.

                            /Bingo

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                            QOTOM-Q355G4 Quad Lan.
                            CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                            LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                            • QinnQ Offline
                              Qinn @chudak
                              last edited by

                              @chudak Good idea use a VM and take a look at

                              https://forum.netgate.com/topic/95148/pc-engines-apu2-experiences/577

                              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                              • chudakC Offline
                                chudak @Qinn
                                last edited by

                                @qinn said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                @chudak Good idea use a VM and take a look at

                                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/95148/pc-engines-apu2-experiences/577

                                Very useful, thx !

                                I tried a dry-run, commands worked, but it was not real as my VM is not fully setup as a router. But in general it seem like a worthwhile exercise to consider switch to zfs.

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                                  Docop2 @chudak
                                  last edited by

                                  On my side, as soon you try to do an install with a different ip or a different sub. it result into a 404 Not found -nginx error page. if leave and touch nothing and just put the psw.. look ok, but even after try to change the ip and it fail. Doing the exact same process as 2.4.5 or 2.5. So .. no 2.5 is the last working version.

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                                  • TAC57T Offline
                                    TAC57 @Yanik
                                    last edited by

                                    @yanik Did you get your port forwarding working in 2.5.1?

                                    I'm having the same issues on port forwarding to my Synology box and Plex Server (FreeNAS box). :-(

                                    To roll back from pfSense 2.5.1 to 2.5.0 can I just restore my 2.5.0 backup config file, or would I have to do a clean install of pfSense 2.5.0 first and then restore the 2.5.0 backup?

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                                    • bingo600B Offline
                                      bingo600 @TAC57
                                      last edited by

                                      @tac57
                                      A roolback would always include a reinstall (format) , unless you are using ZFS w. snapshot.

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                                      CPUĀ  : Core i5 5250U, Ram : 8GB Kingston DDR3LV 1600
                                      LANĀ  : 4 x Intel 211, DiskĀ  : 240G SAMSUNG MZ7L3240HCHQ SSD

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                                      • AKEGECA Offline
                                        AKEGEC @Docop2
                                        last edited by

                                        @docop2 de Winter is almost over, let's hope dev fix the bugs.

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                                        • YanikY Offline
                                          Yanik @TAC57
                                          last edited by

                                          @tac57 said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                          @yanik Did you get your port forwarding working in 2.5.1?

                                          I'm having the same issues on port forwarding to my Synology box and Plex Server (FreeNAS box). :-(

                                          To roll back from pfSense 2.5.1 to 2.5.0 can I just restore my 2.5.0 backup config file, or would I have to do a clean install of pfSense 2.5.0 first and then restore the 2.5.0 backup?

                                          No, 2.5.1 port forwarding doesnt work.
                                          I reinstalled pfsense v2.4.5_1 with zfs instead of ufs to able to have snapshots before upgrades.

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                                          • J Offline
                                            JustWantItToWork
                                            last edited by

                                            Upgrade from 2.5.0 to 2.5.1 went quickly and mostly fine on my netgate RCC-VE 2440. I have a pretty basic setup with a few vlans and pfblocker. The only issue I noticed was that DNS was not working. A subsequent reboot solved that.

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