Netgate Discussion Forum
    • Categories
    • Recent
    • Tags
    • Popular
    • Users
    • Search
    • Register
    • Login

    Watchguard Firebox M400/M500

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Hardware
    586 Posts 59 Posters 686.3k Views
    Loading More Posts
    • Oldest to Newest
    • Newest to Oldest
    • Most Votes
    Reply
    • Reply as topic
    Log in to reply
    This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
    • C
      caKuma @Smoothrunnings
      last edited by

      @smoothrunnings Did both on linux and windows. No dice. Im going to jerry rig the VGA once i get the extension cable.

      Z 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Mmm, you're right. Too many boxes!

        Yeah, there's actually no output at all on the console until pfSense boots with the default BIOS on there.
        Do you see that using a CF card with the memstick-serial image on it?

        You don't have to flash the BIOS.

        Steve

        C 2 Replies Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • C
          caKuma @stephenw10
          last edited by caKuma

          @stephenw10 Yea I didnt use CF card with memstick serial image on it. I wanted flash the bios to use my i5-4590T. Give me a sec ill flash the CF card again real quick with the memstick serial image.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • Z
            zanthos @caKuma
            last edited by

            @cakuma Just to let you know, If you're using my unlocked BIOS, there won't be any output on the VGA port, it is disabled in the BIOS. Also, VGA output depends on the CPU if it has an integrated IGP or not.
            You would need to change the BIOS settings to enable VGA output which seems to be impossible without a working serial console.

            My first advice: get another serial adapter. It might be broken. I had that several times. Those cheap china adapters cannot handle currents that may be high on serial ports and get damaged quickly.
            Also, according to your picture, it seems your adapter is RJ45 (CISCO console style) to USB. Make sure, the cable REALLY is CISCO style and has proper pinout.

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
            • C
              caKuma
              last edited by caKuma

              Capture.PNG

              Yea you guys were right the console is actually outputting now with the memstick-serial image.
              Just wanted to flash the unlocked bios so I can use the spare CPU i have. There should be a way to flash from within pfsense/freebsd right?

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • C
                caKuma @stephenw10
                last edited by

                This post is deleted!
                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10

                  Well the first thing I would try is installing UFS using the default values.

                  The memstick serial image will boot legacy or UEFI. If it booted UEFI it would have installed as that unless you specifically selected not to and it may not boot that by default.
                  It's been a while since I poked around in that though. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                  Edit: Ah you edited! It's booting?

                  C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • C
                    caKuma @stephenw10
                    last edited by caKuma

                    @stephenw10 Capture.PNG
                    I feel like an idiot, im just kinda tired trying to figure things out and i missed the message where you told to install ZFS with GPT(BIOS + UEFI). Thank you so much for helping me. Right now imma see if i can get freedos working and flash the bios.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Nice! ๐Ÿ‘

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • C
                        caKuma
                        last edited by caKuma

                        fdos.PNG
                        pfsensefirebox
                        ^I used the freedosbios2 on here, opened the image and extracted the m400 bios and afudos to the image then flashed to the CF. FreeDos boots now. Time to see if it flash.
                        fdos.PNG
                        Edit: I deleted the bios for other watchguard boxes that came with freedosbios2 image and added the m400.rom/afudos, it worked this time.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                        • C
                          caKuma
                          last edited by

                          alt text
                          pfweb.PNG
                          All good! Can't thank you all enough.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Nice. Does it reboot correctly with that CPU? Some do not and there seem to be no clear pattern.

                            Did you enable powerd/speedstep? That 'T' CPU probably has a bunch of frequency levels.

                            Steve

                            C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • C
                              caKuma @stephenw10
                              last edited by caKuma

                              @stephenw10 I dont think it reboots properly, it halts the system and just get stuck and i have to press the power button to fully shut it off then power on again. I did enable speedstep but i feel like i should just keep it stock for the low tdp.

                              stephenw10S 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @caKuma
                                last edited by

                                @cakuma said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                                @stephenw10 I dont think it reboots properly, it halts the system and just get stuck

                                Bah. Yeah that's what the others do. Wish I knew why....

                                Without speedstep enabled in the BIOS and powerd in pfSense the CPU runs at full speed all the time. Though with the available C states it has the actual power/heat savings available are minimal.

                                Steve

                                C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • C
                                  caKuma @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 O Thanks for the info, will definitely check bios to see.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    If that was my BIOS you wrote onto there I'm pretty sure I enabled it by default since it was not unlocked. Only the defaults were changes.
                                    You can see the est lines in the boot messages if it's not enabled:

                                    est0: <Enhanced SpeedStep Frequency Control> on cpu0
                                    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
                                    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 1fb100001b00
                                    device_attach: est0 attach returned 6
                                    est: CPU supports Enhanced Speedstep, but is not recognized.
                                    est: cpu_vendor GenuineIntel, msr 1fb100001b00
                                    device_attach: est1 attach returned 6
                                    

                                    That's the standard G1820 in the M400.

                                    C 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • C
                                      caKuma @stephenw10
                                      last edited by

                                      @stephenw10 yep it's enabled.

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Ah well maybe run some tests with and without powerd enabled and see if it makes any difference. Personally I just like seeing it enabled. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                        Screenshot from 2021-09-01 19-24-27.png

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 1
                                        • P
                                          pfsense1921
                                          last edited by

                                          I have read everysingle post in this thread (and few hundred in the other watchguard thread).

                                          Based upon Sept 2021 dollars, it looks like to get into a M400 + maybe a memory/cpu upgrade at least $300. How does a pfsense/unlocked bios stock M400 compare with the netgate 3100? I only have 4-5 users in the office (plus about 4-5 cell phones connected too) I love the technical modifications of messing with the M400, but seems like the 3100 is more than enough for me.

                                          Please talk me out of the M400 and to just buy the 3100 :) Thanks!

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            The 3100 is fanless, consumes less power, comes with warranty and is tested on extensively on every pfSense release. ๐Ÿ˜€

                                            What WAN speed do you have? Might that get an upgrade in the near future?

                                            Steve

                                            johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                            • First post
                                              Last post
                                            Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.