Watchguard Firebox M400/M500
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Then any relatively cheap i3 like the 4130 will work. That will give you a faster CPU with hyperthreading and AES-NI.
I think someone fitted one earlier in this thread. (edit: several people in fact)
Steve
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For reference here is the console log of the BIOS update commands I used.
[2.4.4-RELEASE][root@5100.stevew.lan]/root: cu -l /dev/cuaU1 -s 9600 Connected Freedos on COM1: Freedos Current date is Sun 03-03-2019 Current time is 9:30:01.88 pm C:\>dir Volume in drive C is FREEDOS1.0 Volume Serial Number is 4A84-36BD Directory of C:\ KERNEL SYS 44,889 08-20-06 7:08a COMMAND COM 66,945 08-29-06 2:40a BIOS <DIR> 03-03-19 8:37p AUTOEXEC BAT 277 03-03-19 9:28p MODE COM 16,254 05-12-05 12:05p 4 file(s) 128,365 bytes 1 dir(s) 23,560,192 bytes free C:\>cd bios C:\BIOS>afudos +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | AMI Firmware Update Utility v3.07.00 | | Copyright (C)2014 American Megatrends Inc. All Rights Reserved. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Usage: AFUDOS.EXE <ROM File Name> [Option 1] [Option 2]... | | or | | AFUDOS.EXE <Input or Output File Name> <Command> | | or | | AFUDOS.EXE <Command> | | ------------------------------------------------------------------------- | | Commands: | | /O - Save current ROM image to file | | /U - Display ROM File's ROMID | | /S - Refer to Options: /S | | /D - Verification test of given ROM File without flashing BIOS. | | /A - Refer to Options: /A | | /OAD - Refer to Options: /OAD | | /CLNEVNLOG - Refer to Options: /CLNEVNLOG | | Options: | | /MEUL: - Program ME Entire Firmware Block, which supports | | Production.BIN and PreProduction.BIN files. | | /Q - Silent execution | | /X - Don't Check ROM ID | | /CAF - Compare ROM file's data with Systems is different or | | not, if not then cancel related update. | | /S - Display current system's ROMID | | /JBC - Don't Check AC adapter and battery | | /HOLEOUT: - Save specific ROM Hole according to RomHole GUID. | | NewRomHole1.BIN /HOLEOUT:GUID | | /SP - Preserve Setup setting. | | /R - Preserve ALL SMBIOS structure during programming | | /Rn - Preserve SMBIOS type N during programming(n=0-255) | | /B - Program Boot Block | | /P - Program Main BIOS | | /N - Program NVRAM | | /K - Program all non-critical blocks. | | /Kn - Program n'th non-critical block(n=0-15). | | /HOLE: - Update specific ROM Hole according to RomHole GUID. | | NewRomHole1.BIN /HOLE:GUID | | /L - Program all ROM Holes. | | /Ln - Program n'th ROM Hole only(n=0-15). | | /ECUF - Update EC BIOS when newer version is detected. | | /E - Program Embedded Controller Block | | /ME - Program ME Entire Firmware Block. | | /FDR - Flash Flash-Descriptor Region. | | /MER - Flash Entire ME Region. | | /MEUF - Program ME Ignition Firmware Block. | | /A - Oem Activation file | | /OAD - Delete Oem Activation key | | /CLNEVNLOG - Clear Event Log. | | /CAPSULE - Override Secure Flash policy to Capsule | | /RECOVERY - Override Secure Flash policy to Recovery | | /EC - Program Embedded Controller Block. (Flash Type) | | /REBOOT - Reboot after programming. | | /SHUTDOWN - Shutdown after programming. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ C:\BIOS>dir Volume in drive C is FREEDOS1.0 Volume Serial Number is 4A84-36BD Directory of C:\BIOS . <DIR> 03-03-19 8:37p .. <DIR> 03-03-19 8:37p M400 ROM 8,388,608 01-14-19 10:57a AFUDOS EXE 168,944 11-10-14 3:14p AFUEFI EXE 159,392 04-24-14 3:59p 3 file(s) 8,716,944 bytes 2 dir(s) 23,560,192 bytes free C:\BIOS>afudos backup.rom /O +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | AMI Firmware Update Utility v3.07.00 | | Copyright (C)2014 American Megatrends Inc. All Rights Reserved. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Saving current BIOS into file: backup.rom Reading flash ............... done C:\BIOS>dir Volume in drive C is FREEDOS1.0 Volume Serial Number is 4A84-36BD Directory of C:\BIOS . <DIR> 03-03-19 8:37p .. <DIR> 03-03-19 8:37p M400 ROM 8,388,608 01-14-19 10:57a AFUDOS EXE 168,944 11-10-14 3:14p AFUEFI EXE 159,392 04-24-14 3:59p BACKUP ROM 4,194,304 03-03-19 9:52p 4 file(s) 12,911,248 bytes 2 dir(s) 19,365,888 bytes free C:\BIOS>afudos m400.rom /B /P /N +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | AMI Firmware Update Utility v3.07.00 | | Copyright (C)2014 American Megatrends Inc. All Rights Reserved. | +---------------------------------------------------------------------------+ Reading flash ............... done - ME Data Size checking . ok - FFS checksums ......... ok Erasing Boot Block .......... done Updating Boot Block ......... done Verifying Boot Block ........ done Erasing Main Block .......... done Updating Main Block ......... done Verifying Main Block ........ done Erasing NVRAM Block ......... done Updating NVRAM Block ........ done Verifying NVRAM Block ....... done C:\BIOS>After running that the box reboots twice and beeps a few times. Alarming if you're not ready for it!
I leave creating a FreeDOS bootable USB stick as an exercise for the user.
The BIOS file Zanthos linked here has everything unlocked. I'm sure you could prevent it booting using some of the options there so if you do this choose wisely.
Also BIOS flashing is inherently dangerous etc etc!
Steve
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@stephenw10
Do I understand that correctly: You tried to flash that BIOS file, the box rebooted twice and beeped a few times. But after it worked?Because when I tried the first time, I messed with the afudos parameters and bricked my box. So I had to use a SPI programmer to revive it...
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Yes, sorry, that worked fine after going through it initialization routine because the cmos was cleared.
Steve
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@zanthos
I just upgraded the RAM in my M400 with this one:
Kingston Value RAM KVR16N11K2/16 (2x8GB).
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Does anyone know what the power draw on these are roughly? I don’t have any way to measure mine but trying to spec a ups as the storm last night knocked power out and corrupted the install. Gonna have to pull the unit and reimage it but would like to prevent this going forward. My fault for not already having a ups but I can prevent it in the future.
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~35W peak at boot then ~26W once booted and idle according to my plugin power meter.
Steve
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@stephenw10
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Can anyone suggest a compatible replacement PSU? Can't find the exact model and similar FSP ones on ebay dont have the 8 pin motherboard connector.
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You can get a 4pin to 8pin P4 adapter. Or you may not even need all 8 pins connected. There is no PCIe card in the M400 by default. I have not tried either personally.
Steve
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@stephenw10 brilliant, never thought of an adapter. Thanks!
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Just a bit of info which might help someone - this M400 happily took 2x 4Gb sticks of desktop RAM (Non ECC).
It was Hynix DDR3-1600 PC3-12800 (HP Branded - from an old PC a neighbour gave me to dispose of. Now wishing i hadn't sold the CPU!)
Hynix Part No HMT351U6CFR8C-PB
PS - if anyone needs an original 4 Gb ECC stick, let me know. (UK Ideally)
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I wasn't able to get my M400 to boot successfully with a Xeon E3-1220l v3 CPU. I can hear 4 single beeps in quick succession during the boot process and then nothing past that point. Fans continue to run at full speed. I'm not sure if the CPU is bad or incompatible with my setup. I tried clearing the CMOS but that didn't help.
At this point I have reinstalled the Celeron and the box's back to where it was previously. Any suggestions on trouble shooting the box would be greatly appreciated. BTW, intel documentation indicate the C226 chipset is supposed to be compatible with the Xeon.
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From Google..
"Four short beeps means that the motherboard timer is not working properly but it could also mean that there's an issue with the RAM module that's in the lowest (usually marked 0) slot. Usually, a hardware failure with an expansion card or an issue with the motherboard itself could be the cause of this beep code."
I suppose that could have to do with the CPU but check your RAM.
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@chpalmer Thanks for that information, I did try reseating the RAM but it did not help. The same RAM works fine with the Celeron, so it appears the Xeon may be faulty or at least incompatible with the motherboard.
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I had a couple M400's in hand and put pfsense on them for some friends. I didn't get to tinker however.
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That Xeon has no graphics hardware. Might be an issue since the E3-1285 v3 is reported as working. Speculation at this point though.
Edit: Missed that this is the 1220L. Yeah that might require something a bit extra for it's very low speed and power.
Steve
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@iJay-XTM5 Maybe Steve @stephenw10 is right about the missing gfx hardware.
You could try to disable it in the BIOS before swapping CPU's (Headless mode, no RAM assignment, ...).
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@stephenw10 said in Watchguard Firebox M400:
That Xeon has no graphics hardware. Might be an issue since the E3-1285 v3 is reported as working. Speculation at this point though.
Edit: Missed that this is the 1220L. Yeah that might require something a bit extra for it's very low speed and power.
Steve
My apologies if I am not supposed to post links to an external site. Per this website -> https://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/AMI_BIOS_Beep_Codes
4 short beeps are supposed to be one of the following:- Wrong memory installed (eg. Registered when unbuffered required, or Non-ECC when ECC required)
- CPU not supported; update BIOS to support new CPU
I'll need to do a bit of digging to see if the RAM is incompatible. I am more inclined to believe #2 is more likely than #1. I'm going to request Lanner support for a copy of 7585's bios for now. Adding new CPU microcodes into the bios is beyond my capabilities so this may be the end of the road for this Xeon.
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I guess it depends how 'short' they are.
Is it the original ram? The board does not support buffered DIMMs.I could well believe that ultra low power CPU requires a lower voltage than the board can provide though.
Steve
