No LAN Internet Access

johnpoz

You have a problem there could not fetch dnskey.

I would suggest you up the logging level and then do a few queries for stuff. Quite possible your isp is messing with resolving..

Average 20 sec processing time??

look here
Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: average recursion processing time 0.088876 sec
Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: server stats for thread 3: requestlist max 32 avg 0.991393 exceeded 0 jostled 0
Apr 23 05:43:48 unbound 10564:0 info: server stats for thread 3: 53901 queries, 49987 answers from cache, 3914 recursions, 10726 prefetch, 0 rejected by ip ratelimiting

Your dns is not functioning… See my processing time and how many queries..

I would suggest you install dig and do a trace for something to see why your having problems...


E:\>dig www.google.com +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
;; global options: +cmd
.                       514566  IN      NS      a.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      b.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      c.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      d.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      e.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      f.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      g.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      h.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      i.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      j.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      k.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      l.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      NS      m.root-servers.net.
.                       514566  IN      RRSIG   NS 8 0 518400 20180520050000 20180507040000 39570 . hH/aRa4rRPFYuy0W2RrTkOPFoGuQoyatqK7QbSQWY1D4/iZlZIRR2Zsj MIeG+GYZ+9u3Yq5t4wDrrMmgZQ39NTY1PURh+ZRz7LBZl8ZxlAp89xkS IB6P8/7k2wcAlIcLK7U1ukayR2SyPu3GWFt3z9loY15e++MuRnAtE9vM zjtG/9ioWsQMugMQ/JPH04645E5oKNunHiSyi92h018JS4CKsignxI/T 878CDEm7beFBLe1ouJZJlJoeNvemLJT3rhVZ0w1AzTX8cyGLtTggkNX2 jeQcFgciRfVXEbdnJ3ivvqIYjbKYL0NdVsrkVNdS86cH82Z0vuuJjNFT wiyIGA==
;; Received 525 bytes from 192.168.3.10#53(192.168.3.10) in 1 ms

com.                    172800  IN      NS      a.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      b.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      c.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      d.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      e.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      f.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      g.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      h.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      i.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      j.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      k.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      l.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    172800  IN      NS      m.gtld-servers.net.
com.                    86400   IN      DS      30909 8 2 E2D3C916F6DEEAC73294E8268FB5885044A833FC5459588F4A9184CF C41A5766
com.                    86400   IN      RRSIG   DS 8 1 86400 20180520050000 20180507040000 39570 . GiCsdUG5kyf5edT12Gdr/DT6dNUqILHfdqZ2t1vS0VY8YErVjoXRwNlr SoufI39JoZ6ChuMA3wLCo+Q9uTtRoqDKHKJU8MS7MXWyhitbQeL1cdSW insHZZVMltOH4lblQgSSPm4rte4fW+4J9lissWSPNW4d1JnHTTVtDPo+ A6jx6aYpapREv69eE89CfZ8lWBxyr788PDLw/bpwQYX5FuwzpmVZeRCQ G5j/ujt2wGn1NGs/EX3cOXpX4+0RS6fTo4YhTDZ2IIOoMg3ISz55w8Ai FczfOxxW35Gy6dhf6pV1VX943AepsYTUHjDVnK6aHTiwUcrShBtvDmXb Otk2Vg==
;; Received 1174 bytes from 192.58.128.30#53(j.root-servers.net) in 45 ms

google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns2.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns1.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns3.google.com.
google.com.             172800  IN      NS      ns4.google.com.
CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - CK0Q1GIN43N1ARRC9OSM6QPQR81H5M9A  NS SOA RRSIG DNSKEY NSEC3PARAM
CK0POJMG874LJREF7EFN8430QVIT8BSM.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20180512044510 20180505033510 36707 com. ojEZ8Iv1J7vE5QEfjJM1YQSdFLvHhVqppd6HA3cZDZff+TdX5YSsNPf1 gVepdTn0W03LMHSmQhtZJKWE7TzTpQfJUF+UZz/Nj8CPOvRJ+hdDfoPw CIAg5ZVfzfYNSrdsOGFbkxGQ6drlE/Os5tnTcQnrDJktwBilZcohoAkn ioY=
S849LHDDSVU9A9N2FIRO5NKMQB321BEP.com. 86400 IN NSEC3 1 1 0 - S84CEFMDU6ABFSN4V0L2VLLOASCD5IV2  NS DS RRSIG
S849LHDDSVU9A9N2FIRO5NKMQB321BEP.com. 86400 IN RRSIG NSEC3 8 2 86400 20180513051411 20180506040411 36707 com. kQVTehhrmgeTzalwPVhWotamwKGxGb5VuGsm/T+FGU5pxaSNcutQ+YXI uukidbNumZGDv7p8hKNWy3C+RZ/o6Cm5puaxwslSBXL8jOiXau7uOnIb qFFN2pWrCsQcBUfXDTZg+mpUBk2DFPV7Ny+QZXnAAzfthbmu0L9sD+VA TBs=
;; Received 776 bytes from 192.52.178.30#53(k.gtld-servers.net) in 36 ms

www.google.com.         300     IN      A       172.217.6.100
;; Received 48 bytes from 216.239.34.10#53(ns2.google.com) in 24 ms

E:\>

That is a full resolve from my client.. lets take pfsense out of the picture for you resolving and do some tests with dig on your client. You can download it here, just install the tools in the bind install.

https://www.isc.org/downloads/

Your dns is not functioning correctly that is for sure.. You could try using forwarding mode vs resolving. But I would be interested in finding the root cause of your problem.

kaysersosa

Ran DIG from the Client PC, below is the output.

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig www.google.com +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
;; global options: +cmd
;; Received 12 bytes from 10.7.13.1#53(10.7.13.1) in 1 ms

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

johnpoz

that is not a +trace..

You got back nothing from unbound.. You should of gotten back roots and walked down from there.

Force getting the roots… do say

E:>dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
. 175855 IN NS a.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS b.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS c.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS d.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS e.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS f.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS g.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS h.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS i.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS j.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS k.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS l.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN NS m.root-servers.net.
. 175855 IN RRSIG NS 8 0 518400 20180519170000 20180506160000 39570 . l8I2NF/qog7oKasVnbc5E50ay3bAXx+PahYvKlyxf+IpcoJdPrl6LUIO Z7Sfx+GJRaUyNCnBsiBdQqjyGKE/RSv+HtbUlwGb57lwOJsV3GAcCDBw gePDO350Q7kSueVqY+/Xdjyc4BbhhmGe5X4PdMONI8V74k2qMyrNVjzE vi8yL6IWizDPt3K9boWxJHVpE03GRxC9NfxtCrcTzwXdIHUBSnK6ZoYt Bys2S6/mqqeJyqJqpglpZzuvOw03MTplye0HcGZ/w7u5u2Pdhxm7Oghj Kepa0xtQEuT3oPpBFRvZTg5MKCPoeZgy82Wq8heakZztqN/gpvAgrmoL iO2mvA==
;; Received 525 bytes from 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) in 12 ms

notice I got back the roots from 8.8.8.8

kaysersosa

From the Client PC

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> @8.8.8.8 www.google.com +trace
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
. 115791 IN NS a.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS b.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS c.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS d.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS e.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS f.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS g.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS h.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS i.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS j.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS k.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS l.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN NS m.root-servers.net.
. 115791 IN RRSIG NS 8 0 518400 20180518170000 20180505160000 39570 . NEoKyFHHEdXvMg1bip/9XeAQhV22bQa04O5tUH/g2SN/9AcYb0vbkLP/ 1ur6HNU8K57rUWZl94Zmbh7NA4gGQ7SarA9OvG9wz4YrdLkWEV9Up+JI JvvH9d+IlFQdlsV9XGwZ9xJRAnz2KflsOlFO8/vbRIQyLSJXANaNp/NV KYkOaWgjghVzN8x5qbsErU9P5G/UUQ6BZdis03rGLOMkchRggV9y7+/G 5JlPtyXoNBczvDS5j29yTV0F3P3Tf5cmtiK2DfwD4Lk6thTymBcf7qfL Ga9amC4QdfvDUhXVzPOFTARvST7yzIDCqwqbuW8s7imw2Z23Q2TqTqwq 6RDhbQ==
couldn't get address for 'a.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'b.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'c.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'd.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'e.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'f.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'g.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'h.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'i.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'j.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'k.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'l.root-servers.net': not found
couldn't get address for 'm.root-servers.net': not found
dig: couldn't get address for 'a.root-servers.net': no more

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

johnpoz

dude change your client to use 8.8.8.8 as its dns… Then do you dig..

So that allowed you to get the roots, but after that client will use its default dns to get the IP address of roots. Your case that seems to be broken.

If you set your client to use 8.8.8.8 and then do a

dig www.google.com +trace

it should work

kaysersosa

I think I know where to make that change, see attachment.
Added the 8.8.8.8 and the 8.8.4.4 and unchecked DNS Server Override.

Run on Client PC after change above.

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>dig www.google.com +trace

; <<>> DiG 9.11.3 <<>> www.google.com +trace
;; global options: +cmd
;; Received 12 bytes from 10.7.13.1#53(10.7.13.1) in 0 ms

C:\Program Files\ISC BIND 9\bin>

![sys setup.png](/public/imported_attachments/1/sys setup.png)
![sys setup.png_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/sys setup.png_thumb)

kaysersosa

Forgot to mention that on the Dashboard page under DNS server(s) I see the following.

127.0.0.1
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

Prior it was showing
127.0.0.1
99…from ISP modem
99...from ISP modem
anything I added

johnpoz

all meaning less..

Can your client work when pointing directly at 8.8.8.8 and not to pfsense.

kaysersosa

Yes, hooked directly up to the ISP modem it can connect to the internet.

johnpoz

Dude point your client to 8.8.8.8 leave it behind pfsense..

This is not that hard to pin down..

kaysersosa

Sorry miss-understood what you were asking.

Network setup
ISP Modem -> Gig Switch -> Client PC / AP / etc

I hard-set 8.8.8.8 as the DNS on the Client under Network/Properties.

The client can now get to the internet.

kaysersosa

So I should be good if I can get rid of the 127.0.0.1 on the pfSense router?

Dashboard page under DNS server(s) I see the following.

127.0.0.1
8.8.8.8
8.8.4.4

Where is this setting at?

kaysersosa

Network setup
ISP Modem -> pfSense -> Gig Switch -> Client PC / AP / etc

Forgot to add the pfSense in earlier in the thread.

johnpoz

If client is working fine using 8.8.8.8 then you have 2 choices troubleshoot why pfsense resolving is haivng a problem.

Or just turn off resolving mode and use forwarder mode and point to 8.8.8.8

No you are never going to want to remove loopback, that is pfsense asking itself. If pfsense doesn't ask itself it will never be able to resolve any of your local host names. And your clients your going to want to point back to pfsense once pfsense is just forwarding..

But pfsense should be able to just resolve.. So I would be more curious to why it can not resolve?

kaysersosa

Just for your reference. The ISP modem has 2 ports on it. I have my pfSense router in one of the ports and my active DD-WRT router in the other. DD-WRT is running my home network currently.

Ok, so I removed the hard-set 8.8.8.8 as the DNS on the Client under Network/Properties. Then on pfSense under Services/DNS Resolver/General Settings - unchecked enable and saved/applied and thn on pfSense under Services/DNS Forwarder I checked enable and saved/applied. No internet on the Client PC.

Are there any other settings required with the DNS Forwarder? If not and you are willing to help I'm all for attempting to troubleshoot the DNS Resolver.

johnpoz

If your using forwarder then it should be forwarding… It should forward to your isp dns or what it gets via its wan.. Or what you put in the settings.

You sure its running.. Validate that pfsense can resolve using the dns lookup...

kaysersosa

DNS Lookup - see attached

ipconfig /all run on Client PC

Ethernet adapter Ethernet:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . : localdomain
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : This Qualcomm Atheros network Controller connects you to the network.
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : MACv4
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : Yes
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::940d:1541:4e1a:fb26%13(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.100(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.128
Lease Obtained. . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 7, 2018 2:31:05 PM
Lease Expires . . . . . . . . . . : Monday, May 7, 2018 4:31:05 PM
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
DHCP Server . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
DHCPv6 IAID . . . . . . . . . . . : 62676980
DHCPv6 Client DUID. . . . . . . . : MACv6
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 10.7.13.1
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

![dns lookup.jpg](/public/imported_attachments/1/dns lookup.jpg)
![dns lookup.jpg_thumb](/public/imported_attachments/1/dns lookup.jpg_thumb)

johnpoz

Ok dude loopback didn't respond… So yeah that is PROBLEM..

Also 600+ms for google to answer? Yeah that is a problem..

Are you on some sort of sat connection or something? I would not think it possible for 8.8.8.8 to take that long to respond from anywhere on the planet with it being a anycast address and located in regions all over the planet.

Here I just did a query to google... 11ms

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.google.com. 213 IN A 172.217.1.36

;; Query time: 11 msec
;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
;; WHEN: Mon May 07 15:00:48 Central Daylight Time 2018
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 59

If you are seeing over 100ms to 8.8.8.8 I would say something is wrong. You are seeing 600+ms..

I can ping China from Chicago and get less than 300ms.. ;)

kaysersosa

Yes, I was forced to use a satellite internet so I know response times suck. First post in this thread has details on my ISP modem.

Where to next?

johnpoz

Oh wow, not sure how I missed that ;)

If your on SAT… your going to have to use their DNS... You are not going to be able to resolve or use other public dns... Use of the SAT isp dns is going to be your really only viable option.. Anything else is going to be horrible.

And you sure can not resolve on such a high latency connection.