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      logart @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

      @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

      I'm paying 50$ a year for it.

      Pfsense is FREE.. So in 3 years you would pay for the sg1100 ;)

      But my software is giving me a VPN for that price a year. PFsense VPN is free?

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        logart @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

        You would buy a ups... Do a google for how much pi4 draws.. Sure there is plenty of info about it.. if not now real soon.. Since they just hit the streets and people posting all kinds of info for them..

        Something like a 1350 ups with 50w would give you a run time of over 2 hours for sure... Pi and switch not going to draw half of that... A sg1100 shows it draws 3.48W (Idle), lets say 5 for your switch puts you less than 10w so a 1350 UPS would give you easy hours and hours and hours over your 2 hour requirement.. Look for a ups runtime calc - apc has one, cyberpower has one and wills how you graph at estimated runtime for specific load.

        Funny thing is that i already have a cyberpower 1500VA, i have my 2 ISP modems connected to it. How much do you think it will last with two modems, and the raspbery PI 4 and a switch?

        Edit: Also the pi can run windows enterprise or just windows IoT?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          pfSense can't actually combine connections at that level it can only load balance between them which is not the same thing.
          To do that you need something at both ends to split and combine the connections at a packet level. Like MLVPN:
          https://mlvpn.readthedocs.io/en/latest/what_is_mlvpn.html

          If you are really concerned with power usage then you should be looking at some thing that can run at low voltage directly. Converting the battery voltage to high voltage AC only to then convert it back down to 12V or 5V to power some small computer is very inefficient.

          Steve

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            logart @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

            pfSense can't actually combine connections at that level it can only load balance between them which is not the same thing.
            To do that you need something at both ends to split and combine the connections at a packet level. Like MLVPN:
            https://mlvpn.readthedocs.io/en/latest/what_is_mlvpn.html

            If you are really concerned with power usage then you should be looking at some thing that can run at low voltage directly. Converting the battery voltage to high voltage AC only to then convert it back down to 12V or 5V to power some small computer is very inefficient.

            Steve

            Speedify does that, it's highly redundant.

            "In Redundant Mode, Speedify sends all of your data over every one of your Internet connections at the same time. Whichever packet gets through first, is the one to be delivered. The end result is consistent and reliable Internet access when that’s all you really need."

            https://speedify.com/blog/internet-reliability/user-spotlight-redundant-mode/

            I love speedify because of that. I won't change softwares

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Then you're stuck running Windows with all the security implications that carries it seems. 😉

              Or OSX I guess.

              What throughput do you actually need?

              Steve

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                jahonix @logart
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                @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

                Edit: Also the pi can run windows enterprise or just windows IoT?

                https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-enterprise-will-finally-support-arm-with-the-snapdragon-8cx/
                Said to be "slow as hell" but could use only one CPU core (on RPi 3).

                I'd get fired if I ran my main routers/firewalls on Windows OS.

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                  logart @jahonix
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                  @jahonix Yep, but how i can run apple OS? I have no choice.

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                    jahonix @logart
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                    @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

                    @jahonix Yep, but how i can run apple OS? I have no choice.

                    Buy a Mac?
                    There's always a choice.

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                      logart @jahonix
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                      @jahonix

                      lol no i stick with windows. The internet and devices in my home will be more secure with the VPN provided by speedify anyways. The risk is low. The the device i want to buy, will not be used for anything else. No malware, VPN acts as a DDOS control. So i still think my risk is very limited with windows.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        There is a lot of misinformation about VPNs. Personally I don't think they do either of those things.

                        Once, many years ago I ran Windows as a router. Never again!

                        They have Linux code since they have an Android client. It would be much better to run the client on, say, OpenWRT but that's probably not going to happen.

                        Or host your own bonding server and use OpenMPTCProuter.

                        Steve

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                        • kiokomanK
                          kiokoman LAYER 8 @logart
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                          @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

                          @jahonix

                          lol no i stick with windows. The internet and devices in my home will be more secure with the VPN provided by speedify anyways. The risk is low. The the device i want to buy, will not be used for anything else. No malware, VPN acts as a DDOS control. So i still think my risk is very limited with windows.

                          If i scan the network nothing will prevent me to find your real ip, take advantage of every single hole in windows OS, put inside your lan every malware i can think of or some ransomware. VPN will protect you only from some lame player of some stupid game that want to ddos you. Can't you really think of anything better than a windows router? 🙅 🙅 🙏

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                            logart @kiokoman
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                            @kiokoman

                            And what you would achieve by that, infecting a windows computer that has only 2 softwares running on it? When all my other computers are mac and linux in my home. If that happens i will just delete the Windows partition AND reinstall Windows and start again 🤔.

                            Well anyways.. i have no other option And spending all that money for a mac laptop is not a option.

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                              jahonix @logart
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                              @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

                              The internet and devices in my home will be more secure with the VPN provided by speedify anyways.

                              I doubt that "the internet" will be more secure and I cannot see how a VPN protects your devices at home.

                              @logart said in PFsense mini computer and battery/powerbank questions.:

                              all my other computers are mac and linux

                              So you want to put the weakest device at the front gate? 🤔
                              I'd think twice about that.

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                              • kiokomanK
                                kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                well for example i can stole your data, sniff your traffic before it go inside the vpn, use it to load botnet, or only for the sake of it, wan is full of idiots with a lot of time to waste. Just for example one of my clients found the police out of the door, one day, because someone used his server to commit scams on ebay, before asking help to us. The guy before us had put Windows Server 2003 sbe just after the modem without any firewall. 😂

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Yeah. There are many things that someone with access to that box could do and you don't want any of them!

                                  I assume speedify give you a private IP when you connect to them so at least you are not directly accessible that way. If it's behind other routers on the WAN connections it may not have a public IP at all which at least reduces the risk. But...

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