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      FSC830
      last edited by FSC830

      Following your link ends in #12145.

      For various reasons we may want to switch the RAM disks from ufs on md devices to tmpfs .
      

      What is a md device, the internal MMC?
      Is there a diffence when using a SSD instead (ada0)?

      Regards

      Edit: Dashboard widget shows tmpfs!?
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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        md there is memory disk: https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=md

        There's no difference to the ram disks between booting from eMMC or SSD. RAM disks are more common on eMMC installs where drive ware is more of an issue.

        If /var/run is tmpfs you must be running 22.01 or newer. It's possible the limit detection was not updated for 22.01 and you are still seeing it rather than in 22.05?

        Steve

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          FSC830
          last edited by

          I updated from 22.01 to 22.05 at June, 28th at eMMC and did a complete new install from scratch to SSD at July 1st, 2022.
          Afterwards I restored from ACB the settings, no idea, if the limit is also an outcome of the restore.

          Regards

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Are you actually using most of the reset of the RAM then? Perhaps you really only have 270MB available.

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              FSC830
              last edited by

              The command top shows:

              CPU: 43.8% user,  0.0% nice, 50.0% system,  0.0% interrupt,  6.3% idle
              Mem: 88M Active, 464M Inact, 168M Wired, 84M Buf, 1297M Free
              
              

              This matches the total of 2GB.
              Are there any other commands available, "free" or "/proc/meminfo" seems to be not included in OS?

              Regards

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Try running: sysctl -a | grep kmem

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                  FSC830
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10 said in SG-3100 ram disk question:

                  sysctl -a | grep kmem

                  The outcome is:

                  [22.05-RELEASE][admin@xxx]/root: sysctl -a | grep kmem
                  vm.uma_kmem_total: 46063616
                  vm.uma_kmem_limit: 328835072
                  vm.kmem_map_free: 282771456
                  vm.kmem_map_size: 46063616
                  vm.kmem_size_scale: 3
                  vm.kmem_size_max: 328833434
                  vm.kmem_size_min: 12582912
                  vm.kmem_zmax: 65536
                  vm.kmem_size: 328835072
                  
                  

                  Regards

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, well there's the ~270MB. I don't expect that to apply with tmpfs though. A 650MB drive would be impossible to set it if was. I wonder if that value was set before the gui validity check was added and it's simply never used more than the available kmem.

                    I have to say I wouldn't recommend setting anything too large in the 3100 anyway.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yeah, it still checks against available kernel memory:
                      https://github.com/pfsense/pfsense/blob/master/src/usr/local/www/system_advanced_misc.php#L356

                      That could probably be removed with tmpfs there but it's only a significant restriction on arm32 and limiting ram disk size there is not terrible anyway.

                      https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/13508

                      Steve

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