Internal DNS Not Working
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@aiden21c said in Internal DNS Not Working:
The default http/s anti lockout rule
A rule that forwards any traffic for destination 192.168.6.0 network to WAN1 interface
A rule that forwards any traffic to 10.128.32.0 network to WAN1 interface
A rule that forwards all and any other Lan traffic to the WAN2 interface
Default http pass rule
Default https pass rule
Default pfsense DNS ruleCheck if there is a rule that passes ICMP (that is not TCP, neither UDP).
If there is none, then that explains why you can't "ping" (ping uses the ICMP protocol) from LAN. -
@gertjan At this stage, I don't believe there is any rule incorporating ICMP (outside of the allow all traffic rule using WAN2 gateway). This rule has no restriction set on the type of traffic it passes.
Also the lack of and icmp rule doesn't explain why pfsense is unable to reach the update servers or the package servers, as the traffic that it would be sending to and from these servers would likely not be ICMP traffic. -
@aiden21c said in Internal DNS Not Working:
At this stage, I don't believe there is any rule incorporating ICMP
Rules like these on LAN
will do the job.
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@aiden21c
Hi! What you are seeing may be the expected behavior, because:
This here is not what DNS servers PfSense uses per WAN connection, but rather (as per your choice to use local DNS first):- First try localhost (self) DNS
- If not working, try 1.1.1.1 and send all queries from opt1
- If not working, try 1.0.0.1 and send all queries from wan
Next, you specified in Unbound (forwarding mode), that all queries should be sent from WAN2. Unbound then grabs the first DNS from above (1.1.1.1), sends queries through WAN, but expects answers from WAN2, answers that never come (on that interface).
You should either set the DNS interface to "None" in general setup, or create another 2 entries for the WAN interface.
And, in any event, 1.1.1.1 cannot receive queries from the Office interface, it should be either WAN or WAN2 (or, if you want my advice, none).
If you want to see what DNS is used in each query (to confirm what is happening) see dig and nslookup (for Windows clients).
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@nightlyshark I have done the following to no avail. I have also hard restarted the pfsense to see if that helps but it did not. By setting "none" in general setup it actually meant that even the clients weren't able to resolve any host names until I changed this back.
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@aiden21c
Please follow all instructions.
Set Unbound to recursive mode (disable forwarding mode).
After that, make sure that you have no DNS servers in DHCP Server and in DHCP-v6-RA -
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@aiden21c You should also enable DoT in Unbound. You will need a rule for port 853.
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@aiden21c Just noticed that... Did you use the LAN interface address of PfSense to query DNS? Try WAN or WAN2, first. LAN network is NATed, LAN address is not.
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@nightlyshark I apologise, your instructions weren't very clear so I'm not too sure exactly what to change. What I have done:
- Unchecked "Enable forwarding mode" in the DNS resolver
- Set "Network interfaces" to "All" in the DNS resolver
- Tried both enabling and disabling the "Enable SSL/TLS Service"
All this did was actually take my client down and my client was no longer able to resolve DNS quieries.
I have set all the settings back to how they were originally in order to get my client back online. I then ran a "dig" from the pfsense shell and obtained these results.
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@aiden21c said in Internal DNS Not Working:
Set "Network interfaces" to "All" in the DNS resolver
If you're using IPv6 there is a bug where using All doesn't set up the ACL entries to allow clients to query DNS.
Patch ID: 46b159032fef8c78783aa1a749d2238cfed7ac0d
https://forum.netgate.com/topic/176989/problems-with-pfsense-ipv6-dns-function-does-it-exist/36 -
@steveits I am not using any IPv6. I have also reset this setting back to only responding to queries from "LAN" and "LocalHost".
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@aiden21c Let's take it in steps:
- (If it were me) Remove the extra servers in General Setup (for now)
- Set DNS Resolver as:
- Set all interfaces with DHCP in DHCP server as:
- Allow LAN to DNS (both TCP and UDP), LAN to DoT (TCP)
- Setup NTP correctly (DoT may have problems if clock is wrong)
- Provide a diagram of your network (along with exactly how you connect to WAN), so I (or others) can direct you what to do (and explain each step so you will be able to change config later by yourself)
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@aiden21c Also, as per dig, all is OK. You just tried pinging from the LAN ip of PfSense, which isn't NATed (meaning, it can't reach the internet, only WAN can).
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@aiden21c Next try
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@nightlyshark No good unfortunately. I have done the following:
My network setup is a concurrent dual wan setup. This is where I route all traffic out of WAN2 (my main WAN connection) and only traffic directed to the networks specified in the routing rules will be routed through WAN1. I eventually want to have VPN traffic come down through WAN2 and be able to reach the network on WAN1.
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@aiden21c I have now found another very weird issue. I have reset my settings to give the client device access to the internet, and it seems as though when I reset these settings, the DNS forwarder is working exactly as expected. Btw there is no DHCP on the LAN.
It seems that with my testing, I am actually only able to use the diagnostics to ping only the IP addresses specified within the General setup page. It doesn't matter what IPs I set in here, but so long as they are assigned to a gateway I can ping these from any of the 3 interfaces (2 WAN and 1 LAN). Examples:
General Setup
8.8.8.8 - wan2 gw
8.8.4.4 - wan1 gw
ping success to 8.8.4.4 and 8.8.8.8 from all 3 interfaces
ping failure to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 from all 3 interfacesGeneral Setup 2
1.1.1.1 - wan2
1.0.0.1 - wan1
ping success to 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1 from all 3 interfaces
ping failure to 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 from all 3 interface -
Here are the traceroutes to the hostnames of the DNS servers which are specified in the general setup page. Traceroutes fail if I attempt any other hostnames. In general setup, for this to work I need to set both gateways to use the DNS pair from the same provider, otherwise the opposing WAN and LAN wont be able to reach. Below I used 1.0.0.1 on WAN2 an 1.1.1.1 on WAN1.
When DNS servers from different providers are in General Setup, I can ping both IPs from any interface, but I can not traceroute to both hostnames, only the IPs.
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@aiden21c I suggest using the DNS lookup diag page to test DNS problems. While Google DNS should answer pings, testing by ping introduces another layer. One problem at a time . :)
Re pinging DNS servers, I believe pfSense sets up routing entries for them specifically. Ensure you have a default route and/or routing is correct.
