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    Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?

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    • joshgreyzJ
      joshgreyz
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      Came across this article, https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-software-embraces-change-a-strategic-migration-to-the-linux-kernel, and it's not clear if pfSense will continue to be both developed on FreeBSD and Linux or if it will be Linux only moving forward.

      Where is the timeline for this? I'm unable to find it.

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        nimrod @joshgreyz
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        @joshgreyz said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

        https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-software-embraces-change-a-strategic-migration-to-the-linux-kernel

        Check the date on that news you linked.

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        • joshgreyzJ
          joshgreyz @nimrod
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          @nimrod The news link was written on April 1, 2024, but it does answer the question I asked:
          Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?

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            Jarhead @joshgreyz
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            @joshgreyz I think it does answer it... April 1st. Get it?

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            • AndyRHA
              AndyRH
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              It is either true or a terrible joke. Most think a terrible joke because it is not outrageous or obviously a joke.
              These posts will be around for years unless it is clarified.

              o||||o
              7100-1u

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                Jarhead @AndyRH
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                @AndyRH It's already been clarified.

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                  AndyRH @Jarhead
                  last edited by

                  @Jarhead The page does not clearly state it is a joke, so these posts from people running across it will continue for years.

                  o||||o
                  7100-1u

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                    nimrod @AndyRH
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                    The fact that it caused all this makes it a great joke. I feel sorry for people that dont get it. You people need to learn to relax sometimes.

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                      mer
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                      "Hey Siri, how do I know that I've done a successful April Fools joke?" Siri says "when people suffering from a data to keyboard malfuction think you are serious".

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                        Jarhead @AndyRH
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                        @AndyRH said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                        @Jarhead The page does not clearly state it is a joke, so these posts from people running across it will continue for years.

                        True but that would defeat the purpose of the post.
                        I meant all you have to do is a quick search here and it's been clarified.

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                        • Dobby_D
                          Dobby_ @joshgreyz
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                          @joshgreyz

                          Only someone from the Netgate Team will be able to answer this question.

                          #~. @Dobby

                          Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                          PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                          PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                          • joshgreyzJ
                            joshgreyz
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                            LOL LOL LOL - let's make jokes at everyone's expense - good job everyone!

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                              jpv9 @AndyRH
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                              @AndyRH
                              As of Sept 2024, I am still getting questioned about this post from clients. Netgate needs to put a postscript on the original post in stating this was an April Fool's Joke if it really is one.

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                              • AndyRHA
                                AndyRH @jpv9
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                                @jpv9 Two things will always be true:

                                1. Not everyone is gifted with communication.
                                2. Not everyone can tell a joke.

                                Netgate could use improvement in these areas.

                                o||||o
                                7100-1u

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                                  jwt Netgate @jpv9
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                                  @jpv9 what if it wasn’t a joke?

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jwt
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                                    @jwt you are a rascal Jim.. Lets just go along with the gag, and it wasn't a joke.. Then April 1 was a horrible choice for making it public ;)

                                    Looking forward to next April fools - this one is going to be hard to top - heheh

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                                      nimrod @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                      @jwt you are a rascal Jim.. Lets just go along with the gag, and it wasn't a joke.. Then April 1 was a horrible choice for making it public ;)

                                      Looking forward to next April fools - this one is going to be hard to top - heheh

                                      What do you mean its hard? Just say that CE version is getting canceled.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @nimrod
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                                        @nimrod said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                        Just say that CE version is getting canceled

                                        Hahah - that would be good one, but we already get so many people thinking that is true anyway..

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                                          nimrod @johnpoz
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                                          @johnpoz

                                          Yeah. But just imagine the amount of "i told you so" comments.

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                                            jwt Netgate @nimrod
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                                            @nimrod said in Will Netgate keep developing pfSense on FreeBSD or is the switch to Linux going to be for all Netgate platforms?:

                                            @johnpoz

                                            Yeah. But just imagine the amount of "i told you so" comments.

                                            Right?

                                            So why give them what they want?

                                            Netgate is the #3 contributor of sponsored commits to freebsd over the past 3 years.

                                            bash-3.2$ git remote -v
                                            origin	https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git (fetch)
                                            origin	https://github.com/freebsd/freebsd.git (push)
                                            bash-3.2$ git branch
                                              list
                                            * main
                                              master
                                            bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=3year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head -20
                                            3344 The FreeBSD Foundation
                                            1569 Netflix
                                             807 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                             616 Klara, Inc.
                                             448 Beckhoff Automation GmbH & Co. KG
                                             358 Chelsio Communications
                                             357 Arm Ltd
                                             314 Juniper Networks, Inc.
                                             266 NVIDIA Networking
                                             152 Netflix, Inc.
                                             130 NetApp, Inc.
                                             130 Innovate UK
                                             122 DARPA
                                             103 Stormshield
                                              91 Axcient
                                              71 Dell EMC Isilon
                                              64 https://www.patreon.com/cperciva
                                              64 Serenity Cyber Security, LLC
                                              59 Intel Corporation
                                              51 NVidia networking
                                            bash-3.2$ 
                                            

                                            and note that this misses 7 commits that are

                                            Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)

                                            instead of

                                            Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")

                                            which uniq sees as a different string.

                                            If you back off to 5 years (just prior to the pandemic) it's even more dramatic

                                            bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=5year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | head
                                            5437 The FreeBSD Foundation
                                            2079 Netflix
                                            1079 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                             729 Klara, Inc.
                                             664 Chelsio Communications
                                             448 Beckhoff Automation GmbH & Co. KG
                                             357 DARPA
                                             357 Arm Ltd
                                             330 Juniper Networks, Inc.
                                             306 NetApp, Inc.
                                            bash-3.2$ 
                                            
                                            

                                            and

                                            bash-3.2$ git log --first-parent --since=5year | sed  -E 's/\^.\*Sponsored.\[Bb\]y:\[\[:space:\]\]\*//p' | grep -i Sponsored  | sed s/.*[Ss]ponsored\ [Bb]y://| awk '{$1=$1};1' | sort | uniq -c | sort -rn | grep -i netgate
                                            1079 Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                              50 Rubicon Communications, LLC (Netgate)
                                              31 Rubicon Communications, LLC (netgate.com)
                                              20 Rubicon Communications, LLC (d/b/a "Netgate")
                                               6 Sponsored-by: Rubicon Communications, LLC ("Netgate")
                                               3 Rubicon Communications, LLC (“Netgate”’)
                                               2 Netgate, Inc.
                                               1 Rubicon LLC, (Netgate)
                                               1 Netgate
                                            
                                            

                                            We have a lot of changes to pf coming in that are still in review. This is just some of them.

                                            https://reviews.freebsd.org/p/kp/

                                            So the question I wish people would ask: "Why would Netgate still be investing heavily in FreeBSD if they were just going to abandon it like people say?"

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