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    • cwagzC
      cwagz @Veldkornet
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      @Veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

      Is anyone using the CoDel / FQ_CoDel Traffic Shaping on the APU2?

      Working well? Any problems?

      I have an APU2 box at work to provide a separate network for personal devices. It is setup with the FQ_CoDel limiter / floating rules method described towards the end of the Playing with FQ-CoDel Thread. It has been rock solid and seems to provide equal bandwidth sharing for the 30 - 50 devices connected each day and 16 - 20 GB of traffic that is passed on our 150/150 FiOS link.

      Netgate 6100 MAX

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        daemonix @Veldkornet
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        @Veldkornet said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

        @qinn SSH into it and install flashrom. No need to boot from USB etc.

        pkg install flashrom

        Upload the firmware to /tmp with scp and run:
        flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.2.rom -p internal:boardmismatch=force

        Shutdown pfSense, pull the power for 10 seconds, then boot up.

        I still run the original (legacy) bios that came with my apu2c4 almost 2 years ago?! (maybe 1 year I cant remember). I also run the latest stable pfsense.

        Anything I need to do (regarding settings or something else) before flushing from the pfsense itself??
        thanks

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        • QinnQ
          Qinn @daemonix
          last edited by Qinn

          @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

          https://pcengines.github.io/
          

          then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

          ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

          flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
          

          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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            daemonix @Qinn
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            @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

            https://pcengines.github.io/
            

            then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

            ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

            flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
            

            Thanks a lot for the quick replay!
            Im do it later in the evening and hopefully Ill have internet after the reboot heheheh

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              daemonix @Qinn
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                daemonix @Qinn
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                @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                @daemonix Nope, just install the flashrom like above, then download the latest Mainline from here

                https://pcengines.github.io/
                

                then flash it and reboot, I have switched from Legacy to Mainline months ago and everything works still fine.

                ...and btw you don't need the force option, this is enough

                flashrom -w /tmp/apu2_v4.9.0.7.rom -p internal
                

                Done without a problem!
                I had a serial link to it so I did it from there so I can see the boot sequence.

                Now that I have time to experiment a bit.
                What are the recommended combination of settings that favour performance on a openvpn server nowadays ?

                BSD crypto ON/OFF? CBC/GBC algo? etc..
                I get 40mbit on the apu2 hosted server.

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                • fireodoF
                  fireodo @daemonix
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                  @daemonix said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                  BSD crypto ON/OFF? CBC/GBC algo? etc..
                  I get 40mbit on the apu2 hosted server.

                  From my knowledge for the APU2-Board the settings should be AES-NI (in CPU).

                  Regards,
                  fireodo

                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                  pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                  Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                  • QinnQ
                    Qinn
                    last edited by Qinn

                    I agree try AES-NI (in cpu) read this please, especially the reply from "jimp" https://forum.netgate.com/topic/114212/aes-ni-cryptodev-openvpn-help-a-n00b-understand/16

                    The setting is in :

                    System/Advanced/Miscellaneous
                    

                    try it and see how it performs.

                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                      daemonix
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                      fast-io
                      sndbuf 524288
                      rcvbuf 524288

                      added this, changed my PIA client to GCM (my server was already GCM) and I already had just the hardware acceleration only...
                      Gone from 45-sih mbit to 70-70mbit in both PIA and my server!!!

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                        kevindd992002
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                        @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                        https://pcengines.github.io/

                        Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

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                        • fireodoF
                          fireodo @kevindd992002
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                          @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                          Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

                          Yes! The Apu2 does not have a dedicated Crypto-Device, the Crypto-Functions are integrated in the CPU (much faster). IMHO

                          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                            kevindd992002 @fireodo
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                            @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            Does this mean that "AES-NI CPU-based acceleration" is better than the "AES-NI and BSD Crypto Device" option? I'm still confused what the difference between those two are.

                            Yes! The Apu2 does not have a dedicated Crypto-Device, the Crypto-Functions are integrated in the CPU (much faster). IMHO

                            I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                            Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

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                              fireodo @kevindd992002
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                              @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                              I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                              Freebsd will look for the Crypto-Device wich is not existent and will not fallback to AES-NI CPU based.

                              Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

                              I admit I dont know. Sorry.

                              Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                              SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                              pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                              Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                daemonix @fireodo
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                                @fireodo said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                @kevindd992002 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                I see. But won't it use AES-NI anyway if the latter option is selected?

                                Freebsd will look for the Crypto-Device wich is not existent and will not fallback to AES-NI CPU based.

                                Also, in the OpenVPN settings you should chhose None in the Hardware Acceleration field, correct?

                                I admit I dont know. Sorry.

                                Yes this is it. I did all the possible test combinations.
                                Indeed ONLY AES-NI should be selected

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  Yes, the only thing to avoid here is enabling both aes-ni and bsd crypto. Doing that will cause the aes device to register for crypto acceleration via the framework which adds a load of additional steps. It's much faster to use the available CPU instructions directly. As long as it's enabled in the BIOS openssl, and hence openvpn, should use aes-ni.

                                  Steve

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                                  • QinnQ
                                    Qinn @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                    Yes, the only thing to avoid here is enabling both aes-ni and bsd crypto. Doing that will cause the aes device to register for crypto acceleration via the framework which adds a load of additional steps. It's much faster to use the available CPU instructions directly. As long as it's enabled in the BIOS openssl, and hence openvpn, should use aes-ni.

                                    Steve

                                    So you have to select AES-NI in pfSense and not in OpenVPN, then why is this option (Hardware crypto) present in OpenVPN config within pfSense? Could you please clarify this?

                                    Cheers Qinn

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      I have personally never used that setting. But I have also never had a device with a specifically supported hardware crypto device which is where I would expect it to apply.
                                      In testing I did when we went to OpenVPN 2.4 it was better to leave that set to None in every case.

                                      Steve

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                                      • QinnQ
                                        Qinn @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 kudos for clearing that one up!

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                        • jahonixJ
                                          jahonix @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          But I have also never had a device with a specifically supported hardware crypto device which ...

                                          Don't want to crush this topic (and can't PM you) but lemme ask how far crypto in the SG-1100 has come? Last thing I know is that HW is present and waits for the software to follow. Anything changed in this regard?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            That is still basically the status. I'm not sure how far along that work is, I did see some discussion of it a few days ago.

                                            But that's a good point. On the SG-3100 where the crypto hardware is supported via the CESA driver I am currently running with BSD Crypto device set in both OpenVPN and as the system crypto device.

                                            Steve

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