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      kevindd992002
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      Here's a better view:

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, well definitely more use when the latency goes up but that could be cause or effect.

        This is the same system you used with the previous ISP where you didn't have an issue?

        Same Coreboot version? I see you have updated it several times and there have been version that adversely effected throughput.

        Steve

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          kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

          Hmm, well definitely more use when the latency goes up but that could be cause or effect.

          This is the same system you used with the previous ISP where you didn't have an issue?

          Same Coreboot version? I see you have updated it several times and there have been version that adversely effected throughput.

          Steve

          Right. Yes, the same system that I used with my previous ISP that didn't have an issue. And yes, same Coreboot version. In fact, I have another pfsense box (w/ the same Coreboot version) that's still on the previous ISP and no issue.

          ping quality to 8.8.4.4 from "other" pfsense box:

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          A few hours ago from the affected pfsense box, the ping quality to 8.8.8.8 started coming back down to lower values but still a bit on the high side:

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          I can try updating to Coreboot to 14.5.0.1 and see if that helps.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            You could try. I have never used an APU2 so I have no reference there.

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              hda @kevindd992002
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              @kevindd992002 why are you running the pcscd service ?
              It may not be helping ...

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                That's a good point, you could certainly add the patch disables that.
                But usually that causes excess memory use not CPU.

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                  kevindd992002 @hda
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                  @hda said in Gateway monitor down:

                  @kevindd992002 why are you running the pcscd service ?
                  It may not be helping ...

                  I'm not running it intentionally. It is enabled by default since 2.5.0.

                  @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                  That's a good point, you could certainly add the patch disables that.
                  But usually that causes excess memory use not CPU.

                  Thanks. I just added that system patch.

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                    kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                    Mmm, there are only two things I'm aware of that can produce behaviour like that in pfSense.

                    1. Active traffic shaping.

                    2. A bug in 21.05 that affected the SG-3100.

                    Is there a system patch to this bug as well?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kevindd992002
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                      It was fixed in 21.05.1. https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/21-05-1.html

                      It only affected multicore arm32 anyway. It would have been the same on your old ISP.

                      Steve

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                        kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                        I see. Since my firewalls are really just for home use (not mission critical), can I just upgrade to the 2.6.x CE dev release to get all the latest updates? I know Christian McDonald is suggesting to do this.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Yes, I would do that. I have been running 2.6/22.01 on my primary router her for months now.

                          Obviously be sure to backup first and have a copy of the 2.5.2 installer on hand anyway.

                          Steve.

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                            kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                            Yes, I would do that. I have been running 2.6/22.01 on my primary router her for months now.

                            Obviously be sure to backup first and have a copy of the 2.5.2 installer on hand anyway.

                            Steve.

                            And when 2.6 stable comes out, can I simply upgrade from dev to latest stable without any issues?

                            As for the pcscd patch that I just applied, I'm assuming I should just delete the entry after upgrading to dev (without reverting) as jim mentioned here, correct?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kevindd992002
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                              Yes and yes. 😉

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                                kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                                Yes and yes. 😉

                                After updating, I got this crash report error right after logging into the GUI:

                                Crash report begins.  Anonymous machine information:
                                
                                amd64
                                12.3-STABLE
                                FreeBSD 12.3-STABLE devel-12-n226728-3672bd5377a pfSense
                                
                                Crash report details:
                                
                                PHP Errors:
                                [27-Dec-2021 18:27:56 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'zmq.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                                
                                
                                
                                No FreeBSD crash data found.
                                

                                Is that pretty much expected with snapshots?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                  If it was during the update it could well have been since the library version may have been updated resulting in the wrong lib being present at some point.
                                  As long as it doesn't return if you remove it a reboot you're fine.

                                  Steve

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                                    kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                                    If it was during the update it could well have been since the library version may have been updated resulting in the wrong lib being present at some point.
                                    As long as it doesn't return if you remove it a reboot you're fine.

                                    Steve

                                    Yeah, it didn't show anymore after a reboot so I'm good. Although the upgrade to dev didn't really fix the latency issue, it seems to be better now and I'm still convinced that it's an ISP issue. I'm having a 24ms RTT to 8.8.8.8 now which is ideal but RTTsd is still erratic. What does a high RTTsd mean?

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                      It means there's a large variation in ping round-trip times. Standard Deviation.

                                      Steve

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                                        kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10 Right, that I get. But does this usually to translate to an unstable Internet experience?

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Probably not, it depends how high you are seeing. But, for exmaple, if all your pings are exactly 10.0ms and then you see one at 10.9 that's going to be a high deviation. You would not notice a 0.9ms change though.

                                          Steve

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                                            kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                            @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                                            Probably not, it depends how high you are seeing. But, for exmaple, if all your pings are exactly 10.0ms and then you see one at 10.9 that's going to be a high deviation. You would not notice a 0.9ms change though.

                                            Steve

                                            Ok, then this is super insane, wouldn't you say?

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