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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      You could try. I have never used an APU2 so I have no reference there.

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        hda @kevindd992002
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        @kevindd992002 why are you running the pcscd service ?
        It may not be helping ...

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          That's a good point, you could certainly add the patch disables that.
          But usually that causes excess memory use not CPU.

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            kevindd992002 @hda
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            @hda said in Gateway monitor down:

            @kevindd992002 why are you running the pcscd service ?
            It may not be helping ...

            I'm not running it intentionally. It is enabled by default since 2.5.0.

            @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

            That's a good point, you could certainly add the patch disables that.
            But usually that causes excess memory use not CPU.

            Thanks. I just added that system patch.

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              kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

              Mmm, there are only two things I'm aware of that can produce behaviour like that in pfSense.

              1. Active traffic shaping.

              2. A bug in 21.05 that affected the SG-3100.

              Is there a system patch to this bug as well?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kevindd992002
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                It was fixed in 21.05.1. https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/releases/21-05-1.html

                It only affected multicore arm32 anyway. It would have been the same on your old ISP.

                Steve

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                  kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                  I see. Since my firewalls are really just for home use (not mission critical), can I just upgrade to the 2.6.x CE dev release to get all the latest updates? I know Christian McDonald is suggesting to do this.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    Yes, I would do that. I have been running 2.6/22.01 on my primary router her for months now.

                    Obviously be sure to backup first and have a copy of the 2.5.2 installer on hand anyway.

                    Steve.

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                      kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                      Yes, I would do that. I have been running 2.6/22.01 on my primary router her for months now.

                      Obviously be sure to backup first and have a copy of the 2.5.2 installer on hand anyway.

                      Steve.

                      And when 2.6 stable comes out, can I simply upgrade from dev to latest stable without any issues?

                      As for the pcscd patch that I just applied, I'm assuming I should just delete the entry after upgrading to dev (without reverting) as jim mentioned here, correct?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @kevindd992002
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                        Yes and yes. 😉

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                          kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                          Yes and yes. 😉

                          After updating, I got this crash report error right after logging into the GUI:

                          Crash report begins.  Anonymous machine information:
                          
                          amd64
                          12.3-STABLE
                          FreeBSD 12.3-STABLE devel-12-n226728-3672bd5377a pfSense
                          
                          Crash report details:
                          
                          PHP Errors:
                          [27-Dec-2021 18:27:56 UTC] PHP Warning:  PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library 'zmq.so' (tried: /usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so"), /usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so.so (Cannot open "/usr/local/lib/php/20190902/zmq.so.so")) in Unknown on line 0
                          
                          
                          
                          No FreeBSD crash data found.
                          

                          Is that pretty much expected with snapshots?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                            If it was during the update it could well have been since the library version may have been updated resulting in the wrong lib being present at some point.
                            As long as it doesn't return if you remove it a reboot you're fine.

                            Steve

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                              kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                              If it was during the update it could well have been since the library version may have been updated resulting in the wrong lib being present at some point.
                              As long as it doesn't return if you remove it a reboot you're fine.

                              Steve

                              Yeah, it didn't show anymore after a reboot so I'm good. Although the upgrade to dev didn't really fix the latency issue, it seems to be better now and I'm still convinced that it's an ISP issue. I'm having a 24ms RTT to 8.8.8.8 now which is ideal but RTTsd is still erratic. What does a high RTTsd mean?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                It means there's a large variation in ping round-trip times. Standard Deviation.

                                Steve

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                                  kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 Right, that I get. But does this usually to translate to an unstable Internet experience?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Probably not, it depends how high you are seeing. But, for exmaple, if all your pings are exactly 10.0ms and then you see one at 10.9 that's going to be a high deviation. You would not notice a 0.9ms change though.

                                    Steve

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                                      kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                      @stephenw10 said in Gateway monitor down:

                                      Probably not, it depends how high you are seeing. But, for exmaple, if all your pings are exactly 10.0ms and then you see one at 10.9 that's going to be a high deviation. You would not notice a 0.9ms change though.

                                      Steve

                                      Ok, then this is super insane, wouldn't you say?

                                      e6afaffe-08f1-42a2-9e7e-741b8b25d490-image.png

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        It's certainly much larger than I would expect. Rttsd values are usually and order or mangnitune less than the actuall RTT time. Like:

                                        Name              Monitor                           Source                                  Delay    StdDev  Loss  Status  Substatus
                                        BT_DHCP6          fe80::2621:24ff:fed9:623f%pppoe1  fe80::fad1:11ff:fec1:5b57%pppoe1      2.566ms   0.282ms  0.0%  online       none
                                        PROTONVPN_VPNV4   10.24.0.1                         10.24.0.9                           227.778ms  60.327ms  0.0%  online      delay
                                        WAN2              8.8.4.4                           xx.xxx.xxx.xxx                        3.243ms   0.337ms  0.0%  online       none
                                        WAN_PPPOE         8.8.8.8                           yy.yyy.yyy.yy                         6.194ms   0.132ms  0.0%  online       none
                                        

                                        Are you actually seeing ping spikes to 8.8.4.4?

                                        Steve

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                                          kevindd992002 @stephenw10
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                                          Right now, I do. But that's probably because there was a recent submarine cable cut in SEA that our ISP is using. The latency problem, however, started happening way before that submarine cable cut issue. I tried using the mtr package and I see the same spikes after 100 pings to each hop.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                            Might just be how your link behaves then.

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