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      asadz @asadz
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      @asadz on DC this is output of nslookup

      Default Server:  VM-DC1.dummy.local
      Address:  192.168.3.6
      
      > sb.scorecardsearch.com
      Server:  VM-DC1.dummy.local
      Address:  192.168.3.6
      
      Non-authoritative answer:
      Name:    sb.scorecardsearch.com
      Address:  100.2.3.4
      
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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
        last edited by johnpoz

        @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

        but it was the pfsense according to dns-reply.log that return the bad ip address

        well yeah if pfsense asks your AD, and it returned that 100 then it would be cached.. This is why separation now allows you to figure out where the problem is.

        Clear your AD dns cache.. if it still returns that address then you need to figure out why.. Sniff to see if your AD forwards that fqdn and gets back that answer. Or if when you client asks it just gets returned..

        And again I would highly suggest you turn on debug when you do your nslookup - so you can validate exactly what is getting asked.

        That "Non-authoritative answer" points to that being in cache.

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          asadz @johnpoz
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          @johnpoz I will run wireshark then, but i don't know if its install winpcap drivers on DC idk.

          > sb.scorecardsearch.com
          Server:  VM-DC1.dummy.local
          Address:  192.168.3.6
          
          ------------
          Got answer:
              HEADER:
                  opcode = QUERY, id = 10, rcode = NXDOMAIN
                  header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail.
                  questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 1,  additional = 0
          
              QUESTIONS:
                  sb.scorecardsearch.com.dummy.local, type = A, class = IN
              AUTHORITY RECORDS:
              ->  dummy.local
                  ttl = 3600 (1 hour)
                  primary name server = vm-dc1.dummy.local
                  responsible mail addr = hostmaster.dummy.local
                  serial  = 15316
                  refresh = 900 (15 mins)
                  retry   = 600 (10 mins)
                  expire  = 86400 (1 day)
                  default TTL = 3600 (1 hour)
          
          ------------
          ------------
          Got answer:
              HEADER:
                  opcode = QUERY, id = 11, rcode = NXDOMAIN
                  header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail.
                  questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 1,  additional = 0
          
              QUESTIONS:
                  sb.scorecardsearch.com.dummy.local, type = AAAA, class = IN
              AUTHORITY RECORDS:
              ->  dummy.local
                  ttl = 3600 (1 hour)
                  primary name server = vm-dc1.dummy.local
                  responsible mail addr = hostmaster.dummy.local
                  serial  = 15316
                  refresh = 900 (15 mins)
                  retry   = 600 (10 mins)
                  expire  = 86400 (1 day)
                  default TTL = 3600 (1 hour)
          
          ------------
          ------------
          Got answer:
              HEADER:
                  opcode = QUERY, id = 12, rcode = NOERROR
                  header flags:  response, want recursion, recursion avail.
                  questions = 1,  answers = 1,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0
          
              QUESTIONS:
                  sb.scorecardsearch.com, type = A, class = IN
              ANSWERS:
              ->  sb.scorecardsearch.com
                  internet address = 100.2.3.4
                  ttl = 0 (0 secs)
          
          ------------
          Non-authoritative answer:
          ------------
          Got answer:
              HEADER:
                  opcode = QUERY, id = 13, rcode = NOERROR
                  header flags:  response, want recursion, recursion avail.
                  questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 1,  additional = 0
          
              QUESTIONS:
                  sb.scorecardsearch.com, type = AAAA, class = IN
              AUTHORITY RECORDS:
              ->  scorecardsearch.com
                  ttl = 363 (6 mins 3 secs)
                  primary name server = ns1.bodis.com
                  responsible mail addr = dnsadmin.bodis.com
                  serial  = 2017062202
                  refresh = 10800 (3 hours)
                  retry   = 3600 (1 hour)
                  expire  = 1209600 (14 days)
                  default TTL = 3600 (1 hour)
          
          ------------
          Name:    sb.scorecardsearch.com
          Address:  100.2.3.4
          
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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
            last edited by johnpoz

            @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                QUESTIONS:
                    sb.scorecardsearch.com, type = A, class = IN
                ANSWERS:
                ->  sb.scorecardsearch.com
                    internet address = 100.2.3.4
                    ttl = 0 (0 secs)
            

            Well that shows your AD returned that answer..

            Did you sniff on traffic on your AD dns when that was asked? Did you flush your cache? Sniff will validate to you that your AD answered that on its own, or got that answer after asking its forwarder..

            Or look to your AD dns logs - don't recall the level of logging, but you would hope you could log if answered on its own or got that from one of its forwarders..

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              asadz @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz

              Well that shows your AD returned that answer..
              from the TTL value i guess?

              I'm doing a trace using netsh, and using message analyzer to analyse it, will share outcome soon.

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
                last edited by johnpoz

                @asadz you could also turn on logging

                simple google found this
                http://woshub.com/enable-dns-query-logging-parse-logfile/

                What your wanting to validate is if your AD dns answered it from something it has a record for - or did it get that answer from where your forwarding.. I still say you have that record setup. Or you did not flush the cache?

                ttl=0 is for sure not the ttl value of that record..

                This is the TTL from the authoritative ns for that domain

                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                ;sb.scorecardsearch.com.                IN      A
                
                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                sb.scorecardsearch.com. 10800   IN      A       199.59.243.222
                
                ;; Query time: 15 msec
                ;; SERVER: 185.85.196.36#53(185.85.196.36)
                

                If you got it from cache it would be something less than that, but a TTL 0 points to either that ttl is set in your dns, or you have your dns set to return ttl of 0 on stuff that has timed out, this is a special setting.. I have not worked with MS dns in such a long time I am not aware of that being a feature or not. I don't ever recall that feature back when I was dealing with ms dns on a daily basis - but that was many years ago.

                see when I ask my dns for that record, clearly I get back a cached item since the ttl value is less than original value, etc. And it was resolved some time ago because the cach is couple 1000 seconds lower than the original

                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                ;sb.scorecardsearch.com.                IN      A
                
                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                sb.scorecardsearch.com. 8791    IN      A       199.59.243.222
                
                ;; Query time: 7 msec
                ;; SERVER: 192.168.3.10#53(192.168.3.10)
                

                When you do your sniff - you need to be sniffing on the server, on the interface(s) that the server would use to talk to its forwarders.. If you ask it and you see no query to the forwarders for that, then the dns returned it via its own record, or it returned it from cache. That you see that it was non authoritative points to it having it in its cache or getting it from where it forwarded to - but ttl=0 makes really no sense..

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                  asadz @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz here is the result of etl files analysis.codeme.png an.png

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    @asadz so from that its saying that 89.36.170.207 sent you your server 192.168.3.6 that 100 answer for your query?

                    dns.jpg

                    What is that address?

                    ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                    ;207.170.36.89.in-addr.arpa.    IN      PTR
                    
                    ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                    207.170.36.89.in-addr.arpa. 7200 IN     PTR     zoho-170-207.dub3.computerline.net.
                    

                    You forward your dns queries to them?

                    edit: that makes no sense that traffic is to 443..

                    How about a simple wireshark - so can actually see what is on the wire, and what is received on the wire vs some nonsense application trying to make it easier for you to read.. But that info shows us nothing.. Really - where is your client asking, did the dns forward anywhere?

                    query.jpg

                    Can really tell what that is - is that the server 3.7 asking what? Or is that the server answering a client - what IP was the client..

                    Do a simple wireshark for gosh sake.

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                      asadz
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                      @johnpoz no 89 is separate flow, from analysis of etl it means no traffic went outside the box.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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                        @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                        t means no traffic went outside the box.

                        well answering a client would be outside the box.. you just had the server ask itself for that query?

                        But if no traffic went outside - then the server has a record for that.. You need to find out where.. Be it a cache or a actual record you setup..

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                          asadz @johnpoz
                          last edited by

                          @johnpoz its a production DC, i dnt want to install wireshark as it normally requires a reboot, plus the above etl analysis shows zero bytes was exchanged for this IP, so it remain passive, no for entry i need to do some forensic to see where this IP is

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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                            @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                            wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

                            nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

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                              asadz @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz
                              6.8 is my IP i get after connecting to VPN. The reboot is for npcap driver in case of wireshark. Anyhow, here is the debug logs from the link you shared. I can't make much of it. Seems its resolving requests on its own.

                              18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1016A7D50 UDP Rcv 192.168.6.8     0006   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP question info at 000002A1016A7D50
                                Socket = 868
                                Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61364
                                Time Query=171623, Queued=0, Expire=0
                                Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
                                Msg length = 0x0028 (40)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0x0006
                                  Flags     0x0100
                                    QR        0 (QUESTION)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        0
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    0
                                  NSCOUNT   0
                                  ARCOUNT   0
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   A (1)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                    empty
                              
                              18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1007E2960 UDP Snd 192.168.3.7     a4c2   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP question info at 000002A1007E2960
                                Socket = 13744
                                Remote addr 192.168.3.7, port 53
                                Time Query=0, Queued=0, Expire=0
                                Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
                                Msg length = 0x0033 (51)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0xa4c2
                                  Flags     0x0100
                                    QR        0 (QUESTION)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        0
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    0
                                  NSCOUNT   0
                                  ARCOUNT   1
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   A (1)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (0)
                              
                              18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A10025D0B0 UDP Rcv 192.168.3.7     a4c2 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP response info at 000002A10025D0B0
                                Socket = 13744
                                Remote addr 192.168.3.7, port 53
                                Time Query=171623, Queued=0, Expire=0
                                Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
                                Msg length = 0x0043 (67)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0xa4c2
                                  Flags     0x8180
                                    QR        1 (RESPONSE)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        1
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    1
                                  NSCOUNT   0
                                  ARCOUNT   1
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   A (1)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
                                  Name = [C00C](2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x0038, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (0)
                              
                              18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1016A7D50 UDP Snd 192.168.6.8     0006 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP response info at 000002A1016A7D50
                                Socket = 868
                                Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61364
                                Time Query=171623, Queued=171623, Expire=171626
                                Buf length = 0x0200 (512)
                                Msg length = 0x0038 (56)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0x0006
                                  Flags     0x8180
                                    QR        1 (RESPONSE)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        1
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    1
                                  NSCOUNT   0
                                  ARCOUNT   0
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   A (1)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
                                  Name = [C00C](2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                    empty
                              
                              18.12.2022 20:24:03 1774 PACKET  000002A100165910 UDP Rcv 192.168.6.8     0007   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] AAAA   (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP question info at 000002A100165910
                                Socket = 868
                                Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61365
                                Time Query=171624, Queued=0, Expire=0
                                Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
                                Msg length = 0x0028 (40)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0x0007
                                  Flags     0x0100
                                    QR        0 (QUESTION)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        0
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    0
                                  NSCOUNT   0
                                  ARCOUNT   0
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   AAAA (28)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                    empty
                              
                              18.12.2022 20:24:03 1774 PACKET  000002A100165910 UDP Snd 192.168.6.8     0007 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] AAAA   (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                              UDP response info at 000002A100165910
                                Socket = 868
                                Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61365
                                Time Query=171624, Queued=0, Expire=0
                                Buf length = 0x0200 (512)
                                Msg length = 0x005f (95)
                                Message:
                                  XID       0x0007
                                  Flags     0x8180
                                    QR        1 (RESPONSE)
                                    OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
                                    AA        0
                                    TC        0
                                    RD        1
                                    RA        1
                                    Z         0
                                    CD        0
                                    AD        0
                                    RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
                                  QCOUNT    1
                                  ACOUNT    0
                                  NSCOUNT   1
                                  ARCOUNT   0
                                  QUESTION SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
                                  Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                    QTYPE   AAAA (28)
                                    QCLASS  1
                                  ANSWER SECTION:
                                    empty
                                  AUTHORITY SECTION:
                                  Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
                                  Name = [C00F](15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
                                  ADDITIONAL SECTION:
                                    empty
                              
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                                asadz @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

                                nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

                                I found interesting thing , when i parsed log using
                                https://github.com/AleksandrReznik/DNSdebugLogParser

                                for correctly resolved local domains I get ldap as

                                Name = (5)_ldap(4)_tcp(6)VM-DC2(10)dummy(5)local(0)
                                

                                where as for scorecardsearch it is
                                ```
                                Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)

                                it doesn't include the _ldap, meaning it doesn't look at local directory ldap for
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                                  asadz @asadz
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                                  @johnpoz also the ANSWER SECTION is empty, which is very strange.

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                                      asadz @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                      @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                      wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

                                      nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

                                      Also in logs i found

                                      18.12.2022 18:07:03 13F4 PACKET  000002A17EC0D4E0 UDP Rcv 192.168.3.6     0002   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(10)mydomain(5)local(0)
                                      
                                      

                                      why it would append the suffix for external hostnames, in log this append was not done for any external hostnames, perhaps it consider itself to be authoritative NS, when in reality it is not?

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                                        asadz @asadz
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                                        @asadz Problem solved it was sunnyvalley ngfw (integerated with pfsense) which was doing the blacklisting, the way it did was intriguing as it re-writing the socket the response with a different mac address. The pcap at client always showed A query response from DC, but actually it was coming from ngfw firewall which was injecting the response with backhole address.

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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                                          @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                          with backhole address.

                                          of 100.1.2.4 ? that is a HORRIBLE blackhole choice that is for sure..

                                          A simple wireshark would of seen right away that answer was coming from a different mac address, etc.

                                          Again if the DC was putting traffic on the wire, would of seen that and know from upstream something was returning the 100.x address.

                                          Glad you found it.. but using a valid public IP, ie 100.1.2.4 is horrible horrible choice of blackhole address.. Maybe it was a typo and was suppose to be 10.1.2.4?

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                                            asadz @johnpoz
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                                            @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                            @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                                            with backhole address.

                                            of 100.1.2.4 ? that is a HORRIBLE blackhole choice that is for sure..

                                            A simple wireshark would of seen right away that answer was coming from a different mac address, etc.

                                            Again if the DC was putting traffic on the wire, would of seen that and know from upstream something was returning the 100.x address.

                                            Glad you found it.. but using a valid public IP, ie 100.1.2.4 is horrible horrible choice of blackhole address.. Maybe it was a typo and was suppose to be 10.1.2.4?

                                            Yes I share your concerns, this IP made it first appearance in var/log of pfsense of 14th same day we enabled new snort rules
                                            The DNS reply logs

                                            Dec 14 14:31:08,reply,A,A,Unk,sb.scorecardresearch.com,192.168.3.6,100.2.3.4,USDNS-reply,Dec 14 14:31:08,reply,A,A,Unk,sb.scorecardresearch.com,192.168.4.9,100.2.3.4,USDNS-reply

                                            Suggest sunnyvalley providing black hole response. I still think black hole address should be private to be safe and esp should not resolve or routable to www.

                                            Also the MAC address lookup shows 0050560B0310 -> 00005E000101
                                            One is register with VMware other is IANA. Most probably sunnyvalley cloud app is running over VMware.

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