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    Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption)

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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      @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

      t means no traffic went outside the box.

      well answering a client would be outside the box.. you just had the server ask itself for that query?

      But if no traffic went outside - then the server has a record for that.. You need to find out where.. Be it a cache or a actual record you setup..

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        asadz @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz its a production DC, i dnt want to install wireshark as it normally requires a reboot, plus the above etl analysis shows zero bytes was exchanged for this IP, so it remain passive, no for entry i need to do some forensic to see where this IP is

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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          @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

          wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

          nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

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            asadz @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
            6.8 is my IP i get after connecting to VPN. The reboot is for npcap driver in case of wireshark. Anyhow, here is the debug logs from the link you shared. I can't make much of it. Seems its resolving requests on its own.

            18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1016A7D50 UDP Rcv 192.168.6.8     0006   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP question info at 000002A1016A7D50
  Socket = 868
  Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61364
  Time Query=171623, Queued=0, Expire=0
  Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
  Msg length = 0x0028 (40)
  Message:
    XID       0x0006
    Flags     0x0100
      QR        0 (QUESTION)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        0
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    0
    NSCOUNT   0
    ARCOUNT   0
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   A (1)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
      empty
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
      empty
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
      empty

18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1007E2960 UDP Snd 192.168.3.7     a4c2   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP question info at 000002A1007E2960
  Socket = 13744
  Remote addr 192.168.3.7, port 53
  Time Query=0, Queued=0, Expire=0
  Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
  Msg length = 0x0033 (51)
  Message:
    XID       0xa4c2
    Flags     0x0100
      QR        0 (QUESTION)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        0
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    0
    NSCOUNT   0
    ARCOUNT   1
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   A (1)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
      empty
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
      empty
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
    Name = (0)

18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A10025D0B0 UDP Rcv 192.168.3.7     a4c2 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP response info at 000002A10025D0B0
  Socket = 13744
  Remote addr 192.168.3.7, port 53
  Time Query=171623, Queued=0, Expire=0
  Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
  Msg length = 0x0043 (67)
  Message:
    XID       0xa4c2
    Flags     0x8180
      QR        1 (RESPONSE)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        1
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    1
    NSCOUNT   0
    ARCOUNT   1
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   A (1)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
    Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
    Name = [C00C](2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
      empty
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
    Offset = 0x0038, RR count = 0
    Name = (0)

18.12.2022 20:24:02 1774 PACKET  000002A1016A7D50 UDP Snd 192.168.6.8     0006 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP response info at 000002A1016A7D50
  Socket = 868
  Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61364
  Time Query=171623, Queued=171623, Expire=171626
  Buf length = 0x0200 (512)
  Msg length = 0x0038 (56)
  Message:
    XID       0x0006
    Flags     0x8180
      QR        1 (RESPONSE)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        1
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    1
    NSCOUNT   0
    ARCOUNT   0
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   A (1)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
    Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
    Name = [C00C](2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
      empty
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
      empty

18.12.2022 20:24:03 1774 PACKET  000002A100165910 UDP Rcv 192.168.6.8     0007   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] AAAA   (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP question info at 000002A100165910
  Socket = 868
  Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61365
  Time Query=171624, Queued=0, Expire=0
  Buf length = 0x0fa0 (4000)
  Msg length = 0x0028 (40)
  Message:
    XID       0x0007
    Flags     0x0100
      QR        0 (QUESTION)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        0
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    0
    NSCOUNT   0
    ARCOUNT   0
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   AAAA (28)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
      empty
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
      empty
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
      empty

18.12.2022 20:24:03 1774 PACKET  000002A100165910 UDP Snd 192.168.6.8     0007 R Q [8081   DR  NOERROR] AAAA   (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
UDP response info at 000002A100165910
  Socket = 868
  Remote addr 192.168.6.8, port 61365
  Time Query=171624, Queued=0, Expire=0
  Buf length = 0x0200 (512)
  Msg length = 0x005f (95)
  Message:
    XID       0x0007
    Flags     0x8180
      QR        1 (RESPONSE)
      OPCODE    0 (QUERY)
      AA        0
      TC        0
      RD        1
      RA        1
      Z         0
      CD        0
      AD        0
      RCODE     0 (NOERROR)
    QCOUNT    1
    ACOUNT    0
    NSCOUNT   1
    ARCOUNT   0
    QUESTION SECTION:
    Offset = 0x000c, RR count = 0
    Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
      QTYPE   AAAA (28)
      QCLASS  1
    ANSWER SECTION:
      empty
    AUTHORITY SECTION:
    Offset = 0x0028, RR count = 0
    Name = [C00F](15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)
    ADDITIONAL SECTION:
      empty
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              asadz @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

              @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

              wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

              nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

              I found interesting thing , when i parsed log using
              https://github.com/AleksandrReznik/DNSdebugLogParser

              for correctly resolved local domains I get ldap as

              Name = (5)_ldap(4)_tcp(6)VM-DC2(10)dummy(5)local(0)

              where as for scorecardsearch it is
              ```
              Name = (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(0)

              it doesn't include the _ldap, meaning it doesn't look at local directory ldap for
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                asadz @asadz
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                @johnpoz also the ANSWER SECTION is empty, which is very strange.

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                    asadz @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                    @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                    wireshark as it normally requires a reboo

                    nope never seen it require that.. Have installed it hundreds of time - I have never seen it require a reboot that I can ever remember.

                    Also in logs i found

                    18.12.2022 18:07:03 13F4 PACKET  000002A17EC0D4E0 UDP Rcv 192.168.3.6     0002   Q [0001   D   NOERROR] A      (2)sb(15)scorecardsearch(3)com(10)mydomain(5)local(0)

                    why it would append the suffix for external hostnames, in log this append was not done for any external hostnames, perhaps it consider itself to be authoritative NS, when in reality it is not?

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                      asadz @asadz
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                      @asadz Problem solved it was sunnyvalley ngfw (integerated with pfsense) which was doing the blacklisting, the way it did was intriguing as it re-writing the socket the response with a different mac address. The pcap at client always showed A query response from DC, but actually it was coming from ngfw firewall which was injecting the response with backhole address.

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @asadz
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                        @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                        with backhole address.

                        of 100.1.2.4 ? that is a HORRIBLE blackhole choice that is for sure..

                        A simple wireshark would of seen right away that answer was coming from a different mac address, etc.

                        Again if the DC was putting traffic on the wire, would of seen that and know from upstream something was returning the 100.x address.

                        Glad you found it.. but using a valid public IP, ie 100.1.2.4 is horrible horrible choice of blackhole address.. Maybe it was a typo and was suppose to be 10.1.2.4?

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                          asadz @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                          @asadz said in Unable to illegal DNS record from pfsense (DNS-resolver corruption):

                          with backhole address.

                          of 100.1.2.4 ? that is a HORRIBLE blackhole choice that is for sure..

                          A simple wireshark would of seen right away that answer was coming from a different mac address, etc.

                          Again if the DC was putting traffic on the wire, would of seen that and know from upstream something was returning the 100.x address.

                          Glad you found it.. but using a valid public IP, ie 100.1.2.4 is horrible horrible choice of blackhole address.. Maybe it was a typo and was suppose to be 10.1.2.4?

                          Yes I share your concerns, this IP made it first appearance in var/log of pfsense of 14th same day we enabled new snort rules
                          The DNS reply logs

                          Dec 14 14:31:08,reply,A,A,Unk,sb.scorecardresearch.com,192.168.3.6,100.2.3.4,USDNS-reply,Dec 14 14:31:08,reply,A,A,Unk,sb.scorecardresearch.com,192.168.4.9,100.2.3.4,USDNS-reply

                          Suggest sunnyvalley providing black hole response. I still think black hole address should be private to be safe and esp should not resolve or routable to www.

                          Also the MAC address lookup shows 0050560B0310 -> 00005E000101
                          One is register with VMware other is IANA. Most probably sunnyvalley cloud app is running over VMware.

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