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Major DNS Bug 23.01 with Quad9 on SSL

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    defunct78
    last edited by May 4, 2023, 3:03 AM

    Running the SG-1100, I have been fighting this problem for a while. I did notice the problem self resolved once I applied all the recommended patches on 23.01 and reboot. I have not gone in and attempted to figure out which one or combo fixes it, with a 1100 it is just too slow 😁

    Curious to know if this solution helps anyone else.

    SG-1100 24.03 (ZFS)

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      JonH @defunct78
      last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:29 AM

      @defunct78 I'm running 23.01-Release on SG-5100. I'm still plagued with this issue and today I threw up my hands and reverted to port 53 and disabled python mode in both the resolver & pfBlocker.

      I am now watching to see how my system responds.

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        Gertjan @JonH
        last edited by Gertjan May 4, 2023, 7:04 AM May 4, 2023, 7:00 AM

        @jonh

        The reverse on my side :
        I'm using a 23.01-Release on SG-4100.

        I changed from default resolving to forwarding to quad9 :

        As per instructions :

        🔒 Log in to view

        🔒 Log in to view

        and then :

        🔒 Log in to view

        So :
        Python mode (of course)
        DNSSEC : of course not
        Forwarding : that's what this all about : Yes
        TLS : over TLS using port 853.


        🔒 Log in to view

        🔒 Log in to view

        [suspicious mode : ON]
        Look at the number of open TCP connections .... every one of them has an opened TLS state.
        Nice .... but is it ?
        These TLS connections are established by pfSense, not some LAN device.
        To fire of a classic DNS request, using UDP, thousands of code lines are needed to handle the request, answers etc.
        For TLS : that will be hundreds of thousands per connection - and I'm probably still not even close. Because now, it's TCP, far more complex as UDP, and then ... TLS.
        To (re)build a TLS connections, entropy is going through the drain fast.
        I never really found a way to measure available entropy, but what I know : if this one goes to zero, my web multi home server becomes slow. Note that the processor of my web (mail, bind, etc) server uses a quad core Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU 3Ghz, way more power as my pfSense (a 4100).

        Instead of using the word 'bug' or 'problem' I use this, which permits to to see more clearly what's going on.
        Note that I've switched from resolving mode to forwarding mode over TLS on May 4,2023 @08h00.

        On the other hand : I was forwarding to 1.1.1.1 and friends for a week or two.
        Using TLS of course. I've found no (unbound or DNS) issues what so ever.

        Probably important :
        My IPv4 and IPv6 are, afaik, without issues.

        [suspicious mode : OFF]

        Now, let's wait for thread the subject "Major DNS Bug 23.01 with Quad9 on SSL" to happen.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by May 4, 2023, 11:23 AM

          I would argue this is a bug because the same load in 22.05 did not cause any problems even in much larger environments.

          However has anyone verified that this still happens in 23.05?
          We have one report saying that after upgrading the problem was solved.

          Steve

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            N0m0fud @stephenw10
            last edited by May 4, 2023, 3:54 PM

            @stephenw10

            I have been using pfSense w/ Unbound configured for DNS over TLS forwarding for years. Recently, it appears that there is a serious issue with the resolver. I get intermittent errors with the following:

            2023-05-04 10:24:53.905770-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:2] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 46 0
            2023-05-04 10:24:53.905752-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 47 0
            2023-05-04 10:24:53.905719-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:1] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 48 0
            2023-05-04 10:24:53.882272-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:1] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
            2023-05-04 10:24:53.882209-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:3] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
            2023-05-04 10:24:53.882148-05:00 unbound 3136 [3136:1] debug: serviced send timer

            Eventually, DNS queires from devices with IPv6 addresses fail causing mobile apps to crash on the connected device. The errors happen with or without pfBlocker DNSBL active

            I can restart the Unbound service, it will work for a while then the errors return.

            Also get this now with DNSBL:

            servicewatchdog_cron.php: The command '/usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf' returned exit code '1', the output was '[1683215282] unbound[54733:0] debug: creating udp4 socket 192.168.246.1 53 [1683215282] unbound[54733:0] error: bind: address already in use [1683215282] unbound[54733:0] fatal error: could not open ports'
            
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              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by May 4, 2023, 3:56 PM

              Are you using Quad9? Are you running 23.01? can you test 23.05?

              N 1 Reply Last reply May 4, 2023, 4:08 PM Reply Quote 0
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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @N0m0fud
                last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:01 PM

                @n0m0fud Have you disabled DNSSEC and/or DNS over TLS as discussed above?

                re: watchdog and DNSBL...pfBlocker updates and DHCP registrations will restart unbound so watchdog should not try to also start it. It can end up starting twice which is presumably why it is saying the address/port is already in use. Same thing with Suricata/Snort or other services that restart as part of normal behavior.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  N0m0fud @stephenw10
                  last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:08 PM

                  @stephenw10 Running 23.05 forwarding to Cloudflare. Its definitely an IPv6 issue. DNS does not resolve via DNS over TLS on IPv6 Interfaces. I rebooted the router which kills IPv6 for a time after the reboot. Everything worked fine until the IPv6 addresses activated and RADV started. Logs:

                  2023-05-04 11:01:43.286399-05:00 kernel - cannot forward src fe80:2::1ab4:30ff:fe03:3db, dst 2604:2d80:b208:f300:201:2eff:fe5a:6a7c, nxt 17, rcvif re1, outif re0
                  2023-05-04 11:01:07.981963-05:00 kernel - cannot forward src fe80:2::557:1ce2:51f6:763c, dst 2600:1402:b800:1a::6847:8fc5, nxt 6, rcvif re1, outif re0
                  2023-05-04 11:01:07.981902-05:00 kernel - cannot forward src fe80:2::557:1ce2:51f6:763c, dst 2600:1402:b800:1a::6847:8fd0, nxt 6, rcvif re1, outif re0

                  AND

                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.311174-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 89 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.311008-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 92 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310857-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 91 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310710-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 85 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310546-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 86 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310400-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 87 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310242-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 90 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.310094-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 84 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309943-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 88 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309776-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 81 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309627-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 82 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309463-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 83 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309314-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 77 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.309160-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 80 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308995-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 79 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308839-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 78 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308673-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 76 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308519-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 73 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308369-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 75 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.308191-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 67 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307997-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 70 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307829-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 61 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307696-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 74 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307645-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 63 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307402-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:1] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 69 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307354-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 62 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307164-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:1] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 72 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307124-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:2] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 66 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.307052-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 64 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306942-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:1] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 65 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306894-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:2] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 68 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306849-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 57 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306696-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:1] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 71 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306664-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:2] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 59 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306647-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 60 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306475-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 54 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306241-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 53 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.306079-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 55 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305913-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:2] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 58 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305895-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 51 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305794-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 56 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305412-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 52 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305247-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 50 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.305075-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 49 0
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.294142-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.294112-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: tcp bound to src ip4 173.21.178.244 port 0 (len 16)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.294090-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.294056-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: tcp bound to src ip6 2604:2d80:8419:0:35e5:332b:4cf:e696 port 0 (len 28)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.294034-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293995-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point start listening 89 (-1 msec)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293989-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293941-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293899-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point start listening 87 (-1 msec)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293871-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: tcp bound to src ip4 173.21.178.244 port 0 (len 16)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293850-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293810-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: comm point start listening 85 (-1 msec)
                  2023-05-04 11:00:29.293777-05:00 unbound 52706 [52706:0] debug: tcp bound to src ip6 2604:2d80:8419:0:35e5:332b:4cf:e696 port 0 (len 28)

                  Customer Unbound Options:

                  server:
                  forward-zone:
                  name: "."
                  forward-ssl-upstream: yes
                  forward-addr: 1.1.1.1@853
                  forward-addr: 1.0.0.1@853
                  forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::64@853
                  forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::6400@853

                  All Ips are pingable. The IPs are Cloudflare.

                  Not sure what's going on here.

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:13 PM

                    If you set Unbound to use v4 interfaces for Outbound traffic only does that resolve it?

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                      N0m0fud @stephenw10
                      last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:23 PM

                      @stephenw10 Only way to do that is manually edit and save the config file. The GUI only allows selection of physical interfaces. Not IP addresses.

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                        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                        last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:25 PM

                        2023-05-04 11:01:07.981902-05:00 kernel - cannot forward src fe80:2::557:1ce2:51f6:763c, dst 2600:1402:b800:1a::6847:8fd0, nxt 6, rcvif re1, outif re0
                        

                        What has fe80:2::557:1ce2:51f6:763c? It shouldn't be trying to send traffic to a GUA address from LL, it's invalid.

                        What shows in the unbound config for interface binding(s)?

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                          N0m0fud @stephenw10
                          last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:32 PM

                          @stephenw10 And restarting the service overrides my manual changes. This used to work fine until about 2 months ago. I know its local DNS as I can manually set the DNS on mobile devices that are showing the issue and the app failure problem goes away.

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                            N0m0fud @jimp
                            last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:34 PM

                            @jimp Here is the Unbound.conf:

                            ##########################

                            Unbound Configuration

                            ##########################

                            Server configuration

                            server:

                            chroot: /var/unbound
                            username: "unbound"
                            directory: "/var/unbound"
                            pidfile: "/var/run/unbound.pid"
                            use-syslog: yes
                            port: 53
                            verbosity: 4
                            hide-identity: yes
                            hide-version: yes
                            harden-glue: yes
                            do-ip4: yes
                            do-ip6: yes
                            do-udp: yes
                            do-tcp: yes
                            do-daemonize: yes
                            module-config: "python validator iterator"
                            unwanted-reply-threshold: 10000000
                            num-queries-per-thread: 2048
                            jostle-timeout: 200
                            infra-keep-probing: yes
                            infra-host-ttl: 900
                            infra-cache-numhosts: 20000
                            outgoing-num-tcp: 50
                            incoming-num-tcp: 50
                            edns-buffer-size: 4096
                            cache-max-ttl: 86400
                            cache-min-ttl: 0
                            harden-dnssec-stripped: yes
                            msg-cache-size: 512m
                            rrset-cache-size: 1024m
                            qname-minimisation: yes

                            num-threads: 4
                            msg-cache-slabs: 4
                            rrset-cache-slabs: 4
                            infra-cache-slabs: 4
                            key-cache-slabs: 4
                            outgoing-range: 4096
                            #so-rcvbuf: 4m
                            auto-trust-anchor-file: /var/unbound/root.key
                            prefetch: yes
                            prefetch-key: yes
                            use-caps-for-id: no
                            serve-expired: yes
                            aggressive-nsec: yes

                            Statistics

                            Unbound Statistics

                            statistics-interval: 0
                            extended-statistics: yes
                            statistics-cumulative: yes

                            TLS Configuration

                            tls-cert-bundle: "/etc/ssl/cert.pem"
                            tls-port: 853
                            tls-service-pem: "/var/unbound/sslcert.crt"
                            tls-service-key: "/var/unbound/sslcert.key"

                            Interface IP addresses to bind to

                            interface: 192.168.246.1
                            interface: 192.168.246.1@853
                            interface: 2604:2d80:b204:b00:201:2eff:fe5a:6a7c
                            interface: 2604:2d80:b204:b00:201:2eff:fe5a:6a7c@853
                            interface: 127.0.0.1
                            interface: 127.0.0.1@853
                            interface: ::1
                            interface: ::1@853

                            Outgoing interfaces to be used

                            outgoing-interface: 173.21.178.244
                            outgoing-interface: 2604:2d80:8419:0:c4a9:d993:4305:fa3e

                            DNS Rebinding

                            For DNS Rebinding prevention

                            private-address: 127.0.0.0/8
                            private-address: 10.0.0.0/8
                            private-address: ::ffff:a00:0/104
                            private-address: 172.16.0.0/12
                            private-address: ::ffff:ac10:0/108
                            private-address: 169.254.0.0/16
                            private-address: ::ffff:a9fe:0/112
                            private-address: 192.168.0.0/16
                            private-address: ::ffff:c0a8:0/112
                            private-address: fd00::/8
                            private-address: fe80::/10

                            Access lists

                            include: /var/unbound/access_lists.conf

                            Static host entries

                            include: /var/unbound/host_entries.conf

                            dhcp lease entries

                            include: /var/unbound/dhcpleases_entries.conf

                            Domain overrides

                            include: /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf

                            Unbound custom options

                            server:
                            tls-upstream: yes
                            forward-zone:
                            name: "."
                            forward-ssl-upstream: yes
                            forward-addr: 1.1.1.1@853
                            forward-addr: 1.0.0.1@853
                            #forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::64@853
                            #forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::6400@853
                            #forward-addr: 149.112.112.11@853
                            #forward-addr: 9.9.9.11@853
                            #forward-addr: 2620:fe::11@853
                            #forward-addr: 2620:fe::fe:11@853
                            #forward-addr: 52.205.50.148@853

                            Remote Control Config

                            include: /var/unbound/remotecontrol.conf

                            Python Module

                            python:
                            python-script: pfb_unbound.py

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                              SteveITS Galactic Empire @N0m0fud
                              last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:37 PM

                              @n0m0fud said in Major DNS Bug 23.01 with Quad9 on SSL:

                              The GUI only allows selection of physical interfaces. Not IP addresses

                              Unless it changed in 23.05:
                              🔒 Log in to view

                              Custom unbound option text is not required for forwarding.

                              re: cannot forward, is IPv6 working otherwise, from both pfSense and LAN devices? You can ping -6 google.com?

                              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                N0m0fud @N0m0fud
                                last edited by May 4, 2023, 4:45 PM

                                @n0m0fud Ping works fine both from LAN device and from pfSense. Enabled the forwarding and let it run for a bit. I have to get on to other things.

                                Now logs show:

                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.155327-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: comm point listen_for_rw 36 0
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.135144-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: comm point start listening 36 (-1 msec)
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.135137-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: the query is using TLS encryption, for an unauthenticated connection
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134995-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: tcp bound to src ip6 2604:2d80:8419:0:c4a9:d993:4305:fa3e port 0 (len 28)
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134947-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: serviced send timer
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134938-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: cache memory msg=66072 rrset=66072 infra=7808 val=66288
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134929-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] info: 0RDd mod2 rep 144.228.109.190.in-addr.arpa. PTR IN
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134924-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] info: mesh_run: end 1 recursion states (1 with reply, 0 detached), 1 waiting replies, 0 recursion replies sent, 0 replies dropped, 0 states jostled out
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134918-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: mesh_run: iterator module exit state is module_wait_reply
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134908-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: dnssec status: not expected
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134904-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: sending to target: <.> 2606:4700:4700::64#853
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134898-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] info: sending query: 144.228.109.190.in-addr.arpa. PTR IN
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134892-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: selrtt 376
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134883-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: rpz: iterator module callback: have_rpz=0
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134876-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: attempt to get extra 3 targets
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134871-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: ip4 1.1.1.1 port 853 (len 16)
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134866-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: ip4 1.0.0.1 port 853 (len 16)
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134861-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: ip6 2606:4700:4700::64 port 853 (len 28)
                                2023-05-04 11:44:02.134856-05:00 unbound 45552 [45552:3] debug: ip6 2606:4700:4700::6400 port 853 (len 28)

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @N0m0fud
                                  last edited by May 4, 2023, 5:17 PM

                                  @n0m0fud said in Major DNS Bug 23.01 with Quad9 on SSL:

                                  The GUI only allows selection of physical interfaces.

                                  Hmm, interesting. I guess it shows only v6 link local as separate 'interfaces'.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Gertjan
                                    last edited by May 4, 2023, 9:01 PM

                                    @gertjan said in Major DNS Bug 23.01 with Quad9 on SSL:

                                    To (re)build a TLS connections, entropy is going through the drain fast.

                                    Linux for sure this can be a problem - and especially on vms, etc. But I thought bsd got their entropy in a different way? and it was unlikely for bsd to run out like linux can?

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                                      Gertjan @N0m0fud
                                      last edited by Gertjan May 9, 2023, 6:52 AM May 9, 2023, 6:49 AM

                                      @n0m0fud

                                      Strange :

                                      ...
                                      dhcp lease entries
                                      
                                      include: /var/unbound/dhcpleases_entries.conf
                                      Domain overrides
                                      
                                      include: /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf
                                      Unbound custom options
                                      
                                      server:
                                      tls-upstream: yes
                                      forward-zone:
                                      name: "."
                                      forward-ssl-upstream: yes
                                      forward-addr: 1.1.1.1@853
                                      forward-addr: 1.0.0.1@853
                                      #forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::64@853
                                      #forward-addr: 2606:4700:4700::6400@853
                                      #forward-addr: 149.112.112.11@853
                                      #forward-addr: 9.9.9.11@853
                                      #forward-addr: 2620:fe::11@853
                                      #forward-addr: 2620:fe::fe:11@853
                                      #forward-addr: 52.205.50.148@853
                                      
                                      Remote Control Config
                                      .....
                                      

                                      When you set :
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                                      pfSense will add a "forward-zone" section will all the needed addresses :

                                      .....
                                      # dhcp lease entries
                                      include: /var/unbound/dhcpleases_entries.conf
                                      
                                      
                                      # Domain overrides
                                      include: /var/unbound/domainoverrides.conf
                                      # Forwarding
                                      forward-zone:
                                      	name: "."
                                      	forward-tls-upstream: yes
                                      	forward-addr: 9.9.9.9@853#dns9.quad9.net
                                      	forward-addr: 149.112.112.112@853#dns9.quad9.net
                                      	forward-addr: 2620:fe::fe@853#dns9.quad9.net
                                      	forward-addr: 2620:fe::9@853#dns9.quad9.net
                                      
                                      
                                      # Unbound custom options
                                      server:
                                       statistics-cumulative: no
                                      
                                      
                                      ###
                                      # Remote Control Config
                                      ###
                                      .....
                                      

                                      And no "forward-ssl-upstream" but "forward-tls-upstream", although both are the same.

                                      So you are forwarding without the GUI set to forwarding ?
                                      Why would you use the custom options to achieve forwarding ?
                                      Maybe that needed to be done in the past, but no so anymore.

                                      The usage of

                                      tls-upstream: yes
                                      

                                      is also very rare.
                                      Google knows about it - in just one place ( !! ): it's the unbound.conf doc :

                                      
                                             tls-upstream: <yes or no>
                                                    Enabled or disable whether the upstream queries use TLS only for
                                                    transport.   Default is no.  Useful in tunneling scenarios.  The
                                                    TLS contains plain DNS in TCP wireformat.  The other server must
                                                    support  this  (see  tls-service-key).  If you enable this, also
                                                    configure a tls-cert-bundle  or  use  tls-win-cert  or  tls-sys-
                                                    tem-cert  to  load CA certs, otherwise the connections cannot be
                                                    authenticated. This option enables TLS for all of them,  but  if
                                                    you  do not set this you can configure TLS specifically for some
                                                    forward  zones  with  forward-tls-upstream.    And   also   with
                                                    stub-tls-upstream.
                                      
                                      

                                      Reading this makes me thing : I would stay away from it.

                                      Btw : I'm forwarding to quad9 (IPv4 and IPv6) for the last week or so.
                                      I didn't detect no issues what so ever.
                                      If my unbound got restarted, like this morning, that was me doing so.

                                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                      • cmcdonaldC
                                        cmcdonald Netgate Developer
                                        last edited by cmcdonald May 9, 2023, 2:47 PM May 9, 2023, 2:37 PM

                                        I am working on a build of the version of Unbound we shipped with 22.05 that will run on 23.01 (and one for 23.05). If the problem goes away with this old version of Unbound, I will start bisecting to find a root cause. I just don't want to go off in the weeds chasing ghosts.

                                        It would also be useful to know if this problem also manifests on 23.05.

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                                        • cmcdonaldC
                                          cmcdonald Netgate Developer @cmcdonald
                                          last edited by cmcdonald May 10, 2023, 8:19 PM May 10, 2023, 8:18 PM

                                          This issue is not unique to pfSense.

                                          We do have a workaround:

                                          1. Stop the Unbound service
                                          2. Run elfctl -e +noaslr /usr/local/sbin/unbound
                                          3. Start the Unbound service

                                          Ref: https://bugs.freebsd.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=270912

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