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      RobinH
      last edited by stephenw10

      Hey everyone!

      For some time I tried to figure out what is taking alot of my storage on my Pfsense.

      When I run the command "du -h -d1 /" I get this output:

      4.0K /.snap
      3.0K /dev
      1.4G /usr
      116M /cf
      1.3M /bin
      4.0K /proc
      96K /root
      7.9M /etc
      4.0K /net
      426M /boot
      12M /lib
      4.0K /media
      11M /rescue
      4.0K /mnt
      131M /tmp
      4.9M /sbin
      697M /var
      192K /libexec
      12K /conf.default
      244K /home
      4.0K /.cache
      2.9G /

      The packages I run is Acme, Haproxy, Openvpn-client-export, PfBlocker (disabled, not in use), system_patches, Telegraf and Status_traffic_totals

      Is there someone who has a thought of what I can do?
      Is it safe to uninstall PfBlocker completally?

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        What size is your boot drive?

        Are you running ZFS? Do you have a lot of BE snaps?

        Steve

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          RobinH @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          The complete size on the machine is 60GB but this is what i can se on the dashboard

          62e8b2d8-5f60-483d-ba3f-1ea58cef6487-image.png

          be snaps I do not know :/

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          • stephenw10S Offline
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Hmm. You're not running ZFS so no BE snaps.

            Is there any reason it's running in a 18G partition of the 60G disk?

            Does it change the reported usage across a reboot?

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              RobinH @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

              Since my colleague created the server, it has been expanded with storage, I think. But then I don't know if there has been any work done to move it to Pfsense...
              We also just using one machine, so I have'nt had the guts to reboot it. Last time it rebooted it froze in the start up ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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              • stephenw10S Offline
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                It's running in a VM?

                pfSense won't use storage unless it's present at install or the filesystem is later modified manually.

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                  RobinH @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10

                  Yes, it runs on a VMware VM,

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                    SteveITS Rebel Alliance @RobinH
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                    @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                    Is it safe to uninstall PfBlocker

                    Sure, it's safe, it's just a decision you make. Note when uninstalling there is a checkbox to keep settings/files or remove them:
                    8aa8367f-357b-4d2e-a219-fbd4b96e687b-image.png

                    Did you find this page?
                    https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/filesystem-usage.html

                    One way to get pfSense to use all 60 GB would be to reinstall pfSense and restore your configuration from backup.

                    Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                    Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                    • stephenw10S Offline
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      You can grow the filesystem to fill the available space. Since it's a VM you can just snapshot it first.

                      To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

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                        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10 Well that's much easier. :) Though reinstalling would get OP to ZFS.

                        Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yup, but not something I'd recommend doing without a fall back plan! growfs like that is only ever normally run at first boot. Though I have used it on older VMs in exactly this situation.

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                            RobinH @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10

                            Yeah, we are building a new setup, but now it gets kind of stressed... ๐Ÿ˜… But you dont see or know if there are files or logs I could clear out until the new setup is up and running? ๐Ÿ˜ฌ

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Mmm, it still shouldn't be anywhere near that full. Maybe you have a very large number of small files are exhausting inodes. Try: df -i

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                                RobinH @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10

                                This is my output of df -i

                                Filesystem                  512-blocks     Used   Avail Capacity iused   ifree %iused  Mounted on
                                /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581   38557496 29511840 5961064    83%   39858 2528332    2%   /
                                devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /dev
                                tmpfs                             8192     2488    5704    30%     394   13942    3%   /var/run
                                tmpfs                             8192     2952    5240    36%     500   13836    3%   /var/run
                                devfs                                2        2       0   100%       0       0  100%   /var/dhcpd/dev
                                
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                                  Gertjan @RobinH
                                  last edited by

                                  @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                  /dev/ufsid/5edf741a475fe581 38557496 29511840 5961064 83% 39858 2528332 2% /

                                  The number of total available 512 blocks is 38557496, so divide that number by 2 (half a kilobytes or 512 bytes) and you get 19M bytes, close to 18 Mbytes as mentioned above.

                                  You didn't do this ?

                                  @stephenw10 said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                  To do it run touch /root/force_growfs then reboot.

                                  or you did an nothing changed ?

                                  Actually strange : the main advantage of using a VM is that you can do what you want with the file system, .... and you can't ?

                                  These pfSense packages : acme, Openvpn-client-export, and Telegraf don't add use more disk space over time.

                                  But Haproxy : I'm not sure.
                                  Status_traffic_totals : I'm pretty sure this one produces a lot of data - and that is stored some where ๐Ÿ˜Š

                                  Anyway : I still will advise you to use the ZFS file system, and the means a "re install" (with a VM that's a 5 minutes job if you have a slow machine ^^)

                                  b3adc819-3a26-4cb0-b4d8-a55a7916afb5-image.png

                                  Hummm : the other partition knows as "swap" takes up the other 60-18=42 ?
                                  There is also a third 'boot' partion, but that one is (should be) a couple of Megas max.

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                    RobbieTT @Gertjan
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                                    @Gertjan said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                    Status_traffic_totals

                                    For me running:

                                     find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                                    

                                    Showed that my ntopng and vnstat (aka Status_traffic_totals) databases were out of control. I have them nicely tamed now:

                                    find /var/db/ -type d -ls | sort -n -r
                                     21693        1 drwxr-x---    2 nut                              nut                                     3 May 23 19:31 /var/db/nut
                                       817        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           nobody                                  2 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd/graphics
                                       816        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng/rrd
                                       815        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 nobody                           nobody                                  3 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/ntopng
                                       388        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 redis                            redis                                   2 Feb 17  2023 /var/db/redis
                                       276       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 Mar 15  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblalias
                                       275        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 11 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsblorig
                                       273        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/permit
                                       272        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/match
                                       271       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny
                                       270        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/native
                                       269       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  13 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/original
                                       268       17 drwxr-xr-x   11 root                             wheel                                  15 Oct 11 12:15 /var/db/pfblockerng
                                       256        1 drwxr-x---    2 _dhcp                            _dhcp                                   2 Aug 21 08:00 /var/db/dhcpcd
                                       251        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 11 12:25 /var/db/vnstat
                                       177        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Mar 12  2023 /var/db/pfblockerng/ET
                                       151        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Oct 10 00:15 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl
                                       138        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd/cases
                                       137        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/portsnap
                                       136        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/mtree
                                       135        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/freebsd-update
                                       134        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 ntpd                             ntpd                                    2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ntp
                                       133        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ports
                                       132        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/hyperv
                                       131        1 drwxr-xr-x    3 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/zfsd
                                       130        1 drwx------    2 root                             wheel                                   2 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/ipf
                                       129       17 drwx------    2 operator                         operator                               10 Oct 10 08:24 /var/db/entropy
                                       128        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   3 Oct  3 18:59 /var/db/kea
                                        34       17 drwxr-xr-x   22 root                             wheel                                  41 Oct 11 12:28 /var/db/
                                        34       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                  10 Oct 10 12:04 /var/db/pkg
                                        28       49 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   5 May 24 11:59 /var/db/fontconfig
                                        19        1 drwxr-xr-x    2 root                             wheel                                   4 Jul  9 10:43 /var/db/aliastables
                                         3       17 drwxr-xr-x    2 nobody                           wheel                                  23 Sep  3 13:32 /var/db/rrd
                                    

                                    โ˜•๏ธ

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                                      RobinH @RobbieTT
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                                      @RobbieTT This is my output in a txt-file because its to big...
                                      What can I do with it, can I erase much of it?

                                      output.txt

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                                        SteveITS Rebel Alliance @RobinH
                                        last edited by

                                        @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                        The packages I run is Acme, Haproxy, Openvpn-client-export, PfBlocker (disabled, not in use), system_patches, Telegraf and Status_traffic_totals

                                        @RobinH said in Free Disk space >80%:

                                        output in a txt-file

                                        /var/db/ntopng ...

                                        Did you have ntopng installed, and uninstalled it?

                                        Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                                        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                          Your earlier output shows the total size of /var as 697MB. That's quite big but there is still ~11GB that seem to be unaccounted for.

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                                            RobinH @SteveITS
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                                            @SteveITS ntopng is not installed, maybe it has been before.

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