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    • penguinpagesP
      penguinpages @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10

      Yes..

      Windows laptop yes it can get to internet and all other subnets... (ex: SSH into k3s node and run above tests)

       route -p ADD 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1
      
      

      As a baseline I have another VM on that same VLAN as the laptop and it cannot get to the subnet (aka did not run above route add command)

      So to me this means this is a misconfiguration within the pfsense that when my hosts (windows) attempt to find resource on 172.16.113.0 (per curl test) it goes to my default GW 172.16.100.1/24 and it should then forward down 172.16.103.110 to get to cilium 172.16.113.176.

      If it was issue related to hairpin.. I think it would also fail on nodes within 172.16.103.0/24 also failing.. but they (as noted in test) can resolve 172.16.113.176.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yes I would expect it to work if that traffic is going via pfSense.

        Try a traceroute.

        Check the states when you try to ping.

        What's actually happening when it doesn't have that static route?

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        • penguinpagesP
          penguinpages @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          Traceroute would require ICMP mapping and services.

          I did it just for baseline from Linux host direct (which can get to website without route add) . no response. As well as from windows host with route add.. also no response.

          That is why trying to get debug out of pfsense as to where packets "work when from 172.16.103.110" and with Route add "172.16.100.32"

          But fail from 172.16.100.22

          packetcapture-igc1.103-20240108164045.pcap

          I also tried to add networks for distribtution in but no change
          9760c586-277e-4cc4-a96a-675a0cadae3c-image.png

          Just seems like the pfsense router is just not routing packets to known subnet .. but only from specific networks

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Adding a static route to the windows client changes nothing in how pfSense routes that traffic. It has to be in the client itself.

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            • penguinpagesP
              penguinpages @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10

              Not sure what you mean.

              If my systems (windows / linux) are on 172.16.100.0/24 and know nothing of how to route to 172.16.113.0/24, they just use Default GW 172.16.100.1 which is pfsense.

              Route (pfsense) then refers to its table, and based on BGP knows path to get to 172.16.113.0/24 is via 172.16.103.110.

              PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1                               OK!
              PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
               OK!
              PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176  # --> timeout
              
              PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
               OK!
              PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1
               OK!
              PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176
              
              
              StatusCode        : 200
              StatusDescription : OK
              Content           : <!DOCTYPE html>
                                  <html lang="en-US">
                                  <head>
              
              
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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                OK how does the client know how to reach 172.16.103.110? That must also be via pfSense at 172.16.100.1 right?

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                • penguinpagesP
                  penguinpages @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10

                  Yes

                  Route table from pfsense:

                  Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP,
                         O - OSPF, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, E - EIGRP, T - Table,
                         v - VNC, V - VNC-Direct, A - Babel, f - OpenFabric,
                         > - selected route, * - FIB route, q - queued, r - rejected, b - backup
                         t - trapped, o - offload failure
                  
                  K>* 0.0.0.0/0 [0/0] via 108.234.144.1, igc0, 4d02h15m
                  C>* 10.10.10.1/32 [0/1] is directly connected, lo0, 4d02h15m
                  B>* 10.43.0.0/24 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
                  C>* 108.234.144.0/22 [0/1] is directly connected, igc0, 4d02h15m
                  C>* 172.16.100.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.100, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.101.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.101, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.102.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.102, 1d17h42m
                  S   172.16.103.0/24 [1/0] via 172.16.103.110 inactive, weight 1, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.103.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.103, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.104.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, ovpns1, 4d02h15m
                  C>* 172.16.110.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.110, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.111.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.111, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.112.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.112, 1d17h42m
                  B>* 172.16.113.72/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
                  B>* 172.16.113.176/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d02h20m
                  C>* 172.16.120.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.120, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.121.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.121, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.122.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.122, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.130.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.130, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.131.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.131, 1d17h42m
                  C>* 172.16.132.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.132, 1d17h42m
                  
                  
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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    So what did the states show when you try to open it without the static route on the client?

                    Looking at the pfSense routing table I wonder if the inactive more specific route to 172.16.103.0/24 is causing a problem. 🤔

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                    • penguinpagesP
                      penguinpages @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      Could be...

                      But.......

                      Why when I add route to host... does it start working?
                      Why when from the hosting system can I (without adding route) get to site?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        I'd still be checking the states and/or running an ping and pcaps to see where that is actually being sent.

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                        • penguinpagesP
                          penguinpages @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10

                          Just to close this out and also post what I learned.

                          Root cause: Server with multiple interfaces, where BGP and cilium are binding to the NOT default interface,, will never work.

                          Ex:
                          c028db1a-0f93-46c0-a5f0-d26e67a1282e-image.png

                          Idea was to have VLAN 103 for all containers.. used by various K8 clusters.... but.. Cilium returns routes based on underlying Linux .. which follows DGW through 172.16.100... which confuses hosts waiting for packets to return from pfsense 172.16.103.1

                          Working design:

                          99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

                          Change:

                          1. remove all L2/3 subnet for 172.16.103.0
                          2. setup within CNI (Cilium) that its IP pool is now 172.16.103.0/24
                          3. redirect all bgp through host with bound DGW 172.16.100.110 with bgp neighbor definition to 172.16.100.1 (pfsense)

                          Now BGP does not take weird packet paths etc.

                          How I root cause.: Watch packet sessions on host:
                          tcpdump -i br103 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                          then

                          tcpdump -i br100 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                          Then from laptop
                          curl http://172.16.113.176

                          what I saw was packets in (10x due to fail return)... on both interfaces... which means return was out different interface.

                          Thanks for those who helped respond and posting. Hope this helps others not shave the same yak.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Nice catch. 👍

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                              vacquah @penguinpages
                              last edited by vacquah

                              @penguinpages can you share your cilium bgp peering policy? I’d like to see what it looks like. I am having the same problem. I use almost the same equipment you have - I have a pfsense doing bgp, a brocade icx7250 doing layer 3 routing ( all my vlans are setup here ) and I have a server with 2 nics. I cant connect to a test nginx demo i have setup on my kubernetes cluster with cilium.

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                              • penguinpagesP
                                penguinpages @vacquah
                                last edited by

                                @vacquah said in BGP - K3S Kubernetes:

                                cilium bgp peering policy?

                                K3S Deployment

                                
                                Install Cilium and K3S
                                https://docs.k3s.io/cli/server
                                
                                
                                

                                CILIUM_CLI_VERSION=$(curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cilium/cilium-cli/main/stable.txt)
                                CLI_ARCH=amd64
                                if [ "$(uname -m)" = "aarch64" ]; then CLI_ARCH=arm64; fi
                                curl -L --fail --remote-name-all https://github.com/cilium/cilium-cli/releases/download/${CILIUM_CLI_VERSION}/cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                                sha256sum --check cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz.sha256sum
                                sudo tar xzvfC cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz /usr/local/bin
                                rm cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                                curl -sfL https://get.k3s.io | INSTALL_K3S_EXEC='--flannel-backend=none --disable-network-policy --disable=servicelb --disable=traefik --tls-san=172.16.100.110 --disable-kube-proxy --node-label bgp-policy=pandora' sh -
                                export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml
                                echo "export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml" >> ~/.bashrc
                                sudo -E cilium install --version 1.14.5 --set ipam.operator.clusterPoolIPv4PodCIDRList=10.43.0.0/16 --set bgpControlPlane.enabled=true --set k8sServiceHost=172.16.100.110 --set k8sServicePort=6443 --set kubeProxyReplacement=true --set ingressController.enabled=true --set ingressController.loadbalancerMode=dedicated

                                vi /etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml

                                replace 127.0.0.1 with host ip 172.16.100.110

                                sudo -E cilium status --wait
                                sudo cilium hubble enable # need to run as root.. sudo profile issue
                                sudo -E cilium connectivity test
                                sudo -E kubectl get svc --all-namespaces
                                kubectl get services -A
                                sudo cilium hubble enable

                                
                                
                                Then apply policy
                                
                                
                                

                                sudo su - admin
                                cd /media/md0/containers/
                                vi cilium_policy.yaml
                                ######################

                                apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                                kind: CiliumBGPPeeringPolicy
                                metadata:
                                name: rt1
                                spec:
                                nodeSelector:
                                matchLabels:
                                bgp-policy: pandora
                                virtualRouters:

                                • localASN: 65013
                                  exportPodCIDR: true
                                  neighbors:
                                  • peerAddress: 172.16.100.1/24
                                    peerASN: 65014
                                    eBGPMultihopTTL: 10
                                    connectRetryTimeSeconds: 120
                                    holdTimeSeconds: 90
                                    keepAliveTimeSeconds: 30
                                    gracefulRestart:
                                    enabled: true
                                    restartTimeSeconds: 120
                                    serviceSelector:
                                    matchExpressions:
                                    • {key: somekey, operator: NotIn, values: ['never-used-value']}

                                apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                                kind: CiliumLoadBalancerIPPool
                                metadata:
                                name: "pandorac"
                                spec:
                                cidrs:

                                • cidr: "172.16.103.0/24"
                                  ##########
                                  root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl apply -f cilium_policy.yaml
                                  root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl get ippools -A
                                  NAME DISABLED CONFLICTING IPS AVAILABLE AGE
                                  pandorac false False 253 4s

                                root@pandora:~# kubectl get svc -A
                                NAMESPACE NAME TYPE CLUSTER-IP EXTERNAL-IP PORT(S) AGE
                                default kubernetes ClusterIP 10.43.0.1 <none> 443/TCP 6m
                                kube-system kube-dns ClusterIP 10.43.0.10 <none> 53/UDP,53/TCP,9153/TCP 5m54s
                                kube-system metrics-server ClusterIP 10.43.76.245 <none> 443/TCP 5m53s
                                kube-system hubble-peer ClusterIP 10.43.10.37 <none> 443/TCP 5m50s
                                kube-system hubble-relay ClusterIP 10.43.124.90 <none> 80/TCP 2m53s
                                cilium-test echo-same-node NodePort 10.43.151.50 <none> 8080:30525/TCP 2m3s
                                cilium-test cilium-ingress-ingress-service NodePort 10.43.4.143 <none> 80:31000/TCP,443:31001/TCP 2m3s
                                kube-system cilium-ingress LoadBalancer 10.43.36.151 172.16.103.248 80:32261/TCP,443:32232/TCP 5m50s

                                
                                
                                Note Router BGP Status: Note state = Active
                                Ex: in web ui of rt1 (pfsense router -> status -> frr -> BGP -> Neighbor)
                                

                                BGP neighbor is 172.16.100.110, remote AS 65013, local AS 65014, external link
                                Local Role: undefined
                                Remote Role: undefined
                                Description: pandorac Container interface Neighbor
                                Hostname: pandora
                                BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.100.110, local router ID 172.16.100.1
                                BGP state = Established, up for 00:01:12
                                Last read 00:00:12, Last write 00:00:12

                                
                                Optional: Test external routing of example test website works from Ex: windows host on 172.16.100.0/24
                                
                                

                                PS C:\Users\Jerem> curl http://172.16.103.248

                                StatusCode : 200
                                StatusDescription : OK
                                Content : <!DOCTYPE html>
                                <html lang="en-US">
                                <head>
                                <meta charset="UTF-8" />
                                <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
                                <meta name='robots' content='max-image-preview:large' />
                                <t...
                                RawContent : HTTP/1.1 200 OK

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                                  vacquah @penguinpages
                                  last edited by

                                  @penguinpages Thanks for sharing. I am getting confused / lost with all the IPs

                                  Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? I am having a hard time getting the big picture.

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                                  • penguinpagesP
                                    penguinpages @vacquah
                                    last edited by

                                    @vacquah

                                    Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? --> Yes.. Router connected to DGW for host and inteface for BGP communication

                                    Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? --> Yes. Host sending BGP hosting CNI "CiIium network 172.16.103.0/24 (IP Pool).. .with Overlay network 10.43.0.0/16

                                    I am having a hard time getting the big picture. ---> See above before /after diagram

                                    Working design:

                                    99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

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