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    • penguinpagesP
      penguinpages @stephenw10
      last edited by

      @stephenw10

      Traceroute would require ICMP mapping and services.

      I did it just for baseline from Linux host direct (which can get to website without route add) . no response. As well as from windows host with route add.. also no response.

      That is why trying to get debug out of pfsense as to where packets "work when from 172.16.103.110" and with Route add "172.16.100.32"

      But fail from 172.16.100.22

      packetcapture-igc1.103-20240108164045.pcap

      I also tried to add networks for distribtution in but no change
      9760c586-277e-4cc4-a96a-675a0cadae3c-image.png

      Just seems like the pfsense router is just not routing packets to known subnet .. but only from specific networks

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Adding a static route to the windows client changes nothing in how pfSense routes that traffic. It has to be in the client itself.

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        • penguinpagesP
          penguinpages @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10

          Not sure what you mean.

          If my systems (windows / linux) are on 172.16.100.0/24 and know nothing of how to route to 172.16.113.0/24, they just use Default GW 172.16.100.1 which is pfsense.

          Route (pfsense) then refers to its table, and based on BGP knows path to get to 172.16.113.0/24 is via 172.16.103.110.

          PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1                               OK!
          PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
           OK!
          PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176  # --> timeout
          
          PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
           OK!
          PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1
           OK!
          PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176
          
          
          StatusCode        : 200
          StatusDescription : OK
          Content           : <!DOCTYPE html>
                              <html lang="en-US">
                              <head>
          
          
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            OK how does the client know how to reach 172.16.103.110? That must also be via pfSense at 172.16.100.1 right?

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            • penguinpagesP
              penguinpages @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10

              Yes

              Route table from pfsense:

              Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP,
                     O - OSPF, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, E - EIGRP, T - Table,
                     v - VNC, V - VNC-Direct, A - Babel, f - OpenFabric,
                     > - selected route, * - FIB route, q - queued, r - rejected, b - backup
                     t - trapped, o - offload failure
              
              K>* 0.0.0.0/0 [0/0] via 108.234.144.1, igc0, 4d02h15m
              C>* 10.10.10.1/32 [0/1] is directly connected, lo0, 4d02h15m
              B>* 10.43.0.0/24 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
              C>* 108.234.144.0/22 [0/1] is directly connected, igc0, 4d02h15m
              C>* 172.16.100.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.100, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.101.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.101, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.102.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.102, 1d17h42m
              S   172.16.103.0/24 [1/0] via 172.16.103.110 inactive, weight 1, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.103.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.103, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.104.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, ovpns1, 4d02h15m
              C>* 172.16.110.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.110, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.111.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.111, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.112.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.112, 1d17h42m
              B>* 172.16.113.72/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
              B>* 172.16.113.176/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d02h20m
              C>* 172.16.120.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.120, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.121.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.121, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.122.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.122, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.130.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.130, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.131.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.131, 1d17h42m
              C>* 172.16.132.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.132, 1d17h42m
              
              
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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                So what did the states show when you try to open it without the static route on the client?

                Looking at the pfSense routing table I wonder if the inactive more specific route to 172.16.103.0/24 is causing a problem. 🤔

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                • penguinpagesP
                  penguinpages @stephenw10
                  last edited by

                  @stephenw10

                  Could be...

                  But.......

                  Why when I add route to host... does it start working?
                  Why when from the hosting system can I (without adding route) get to site?

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    I'd still be checking the states and/or running an ping and pcaps to see where that is actually being sent.

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                    • penguinpagesP
                      penguinpages @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10

                      Just to close this out and also post what I learned.

                      Root cause: Server with multiple interfaces, where BGP and cilium are binding to the NOT default interface,, will never work.

                      Ex:
                      c028db1a-0f93-46c0-a5f0-d26e67a1282e-image.png

                      Idea was to have VLAN 103 for all containers.. used by various K8 clusters.... but.. Cilium returns routes based on underlying Linux .. which follows DGW through 172.16.100... which confuses hosts waiting for packets to return from pfsense 172.16.103.1

                      Working design:

                      99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

                      Change:

                      1. remove all L2/3 subnet for 172.16.103.0
                      2. setup within CNI (Cilium) that its IP pool is now 172.16.103.0/24
                      3. redirect all bgp through host with bound DGW 172.16.100.110 with bgp neighbor definition to 172.16.100.1 (pfsense)

                      Now BGP does not take weird packet paths etc.

                      How I root cause.: Watch packet sessions on host:
                      tcpdump -i br103 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                      then

                      tcpdump -i br100 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                      Then from laptop
                      curl http://172.16.113.176

                      what I saw was packets in (10x due to fail return)... on both interfaces... which means return was out different interface.

                      Thanks for those who helped respond and posting. Hope this helps others not shave the same yak.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Nice catch. 👍

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                          vacquah @penguinpages
                          last edited by vacquah

                          @penguinpages can you share your cilium bgp peering policy? I’d like to see what it looks like. I am having the same problem. I use almost the same equipment you have - I have a pfsense doing bgp, a brocade icx7250 doing layer 3 routing ( all my vlans are setup here ) and I have a server with 2 nics. I cant connect to a test nginx demo i have setup on my kubernetes cluster with cilium.

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                          • penguinpagesP
                            penguinpages @vacquah
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                            @vacquah said in BGP - K3S Kubernetes:

                            cilium bgp peering policy?

                            K3S Deployment

                            
                            Install Cilium and K3S
                            https://docs.k3s.io/cli/server
                            
                            
                            

                            CILIUM_CLI_VERSION=$(curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cilium/cilium-cli/main/stable.txt)
                            CLI_ARCH=amd64
                            if [ "$(uname -m)" = "aarch64" ]; then CLI_ARCH=arm64; fi
                            curl -L --fail --remote-name-all https://github.com/cilium/cilium-cli/releases/download/${CILIUM_CLI_VERSION}/cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                            sha256sum --check cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz.sha256sum
                            sudo tar xzvfC cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz /usr/local/bin
                            rm cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                            curl -sfL https://get.k3s.io | INSTALL_K3S_EXEC='--flannel-backend=none --disable-network-policy --disable=servicelb --disable=traefik --tls-san=172.16.100.110 --disable-kube-proxy --node-label bgp-policy=pandora' sh -
                            export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml
                            echo "export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml" >> ~/.bashrc
                            sudo -E cilium install --version 1.14.5 --set ipam.operator.clusterPoolIPv4PodCIDRList=10.43.0.0/16 --set bgpControlPlane.enabled=true --set k8sServiceHost=172.16.100.110 --set k8sServicePort=6443 --set kubeProxyReplacement=true --set ingressController.enabled=true --set ingressController.loadbalancerMode=dedicated

                            vi /etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml

                            replace 127.0.0.1 with host ip 172.16.100.110

                            sudo -E cilium status --wait
                            sudo cilium hubble enable # need to run as root.. sudo profile issue
                            sudo -E cilium connectivity test
                            sudo -E kubectl get svc --all-namespaces
                            kubectl get services -A
                            sudo cilium hubble enable

                            
                            
                            Then apply policy
                            
                            
                            

                            sudo su - admin
                            cd /media/md0/containers/
                            vi cilium_policy.yaml
                            ######################

                            apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                            kind: CiliumBGPPeeringPolicy
                            metadata:
                            name: rt1
                            spec:
                            nodeSelector:
                            matchLabels:
                            bgp-policy: pandora
                            virtualRouters:

                            • localASN: 65013
                              exportPodCIDR: true
                              neighbors:
                              • peerAddress: 172.16.100.1/24
                                peerASN: 65014
                                eBGPMultihopTTL: 10
                                connectRetryTimeSeconds: 120
                                holdTimeSeconds: 90
                                keepAliveTimeSeconds: 30
                                gracefulRestart:
                                enabled: true
                                restartTimeSeconds: 120
                                serviceSelector:
                                matchExpressions:
                                • {key: somekey, operator: NotIn, values: ['never-used-value']}

                            apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                            kind: CiliumLoadBalancerIPPool
                            metadata:
                            name: "pandorac"
                            spec:
                            cidrs:

                            • cidr: "172.16.103.0/24"
                              ##########
                              root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl apply -f cilium_policy.yaml
                              root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl get ippools -A
                              NAME DISABLED CONFLICTING IPS AVAILABLE AGE
                              pandorac false False 253 4s

                            root@pandora:~# kubectl get svc -A
                            NAMESPACE NAME TYPE CLUSTER-IP EXTERNAL-IP PORT(S) AGE
                            default kubernetes ClusterIP 10.43.0.1 <none> 443/TCP 6m
                            kube-system kube-dns ClusterIP 10.43.0.10 <none> 53/UDP,53/TCP,9153/TCP 5m54s
                            kube-system metrics-server ClusterIP 10.43.76.245 <none> 443/TCP 5m53s
                            kube-system hubble-peer ClusterIP 10.43.10.37 <none> 443/TCP 5m50s
                            kube-system hubble-relay ClusterIP 10.43.124.90 <none> 80/TCP 2m53s
                            cilium-test echo-same-node NodePort 10.43.151.50 <none> 8080:30525/TCP 2m3s
                            cilium-test cilium-ingress-ingress-service NodePort 10.43.4.143 <none> 80:31000/TCP,443:31001/TCP 2m3s
                            kube-system cilium-ingress LoadBalancer 10.43.36.151 172.16.103.248 80:32261/TCP,443:32232/TCP 5m50s

                            
                            
                            Note Router BGP Status: Note state = Active
                            Ex: in web ui of rt1 (pfsense router -> status -> frr -> BGP -> Neighbor)
                            

                            BGP neighbor is 172.16.100.110, remote AS 65013, local AS 65014, external link
                            Local Role: undefined
                            Remote Role: undefined
                            Description: pandorac Container interface Neighbor
                            Hostname: pandora
                            BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.100.110, local router ID 172.16.100.1
                            BGP state = Established, up for 00:01:12
                            Last read 00:00:12, Last write 00:00:12

                            
                            Optional: Test external routing of example test website works from Ex: windows host on 172.16.100.0/24
                            
                            

                            PS C:\Users\Jerem> curl http://172.16.103.248

                            StatusCode : 200
                            StatusDescription : OK
                            Content : <!DOCTYPE html>
                            <html lang="en-US">
                            <head>
                            <meta charset="UTF-8" />
                            <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
                            <meta name='robots' content='max-image-preview:large' />
                            <t...
                            RawContent : HTTP/1.1 200 OK

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                              vacquah @penguinpages
                              last edited by

                              @penguinpages Thanks for sharing. I am getting confused / lost with all the IPs

                              Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? I am having a hard time getting the big picture.

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                              • penguinpagesP
                                penguinpages @vacquah
                                last edited by

                                @vacquah

                                Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? --> Yes.. Router connected to DGW for host and inteface for BGP communication

                                Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? --> Yes. Host sending BGP hosting CNI "CiIium network 172.16.103.0/24 (IP Pool).. .with Overlay network 10.43.0.0/16

                                I am having a hard time getting the big picture. ---> See above before /after diagram

                                Working design:

                                99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

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