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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      Yes I would expect it to work if that traffic is going via pfSense.

      Try a traceroute.

      Check the states when you try to ping.

      What's actually happening when it doesn't have that static route?

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      • penguinpagesP
        penguinpages @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10

        Traceroute would require ICMP mapping and services.

        I did it just for baseline from Linux host direct (which can get to website without route add) . no response. As well as from windows host with route add.. also no response.

        That is why trying to get debug out of pfsense as to where packets "work when from 172.16.103.110" and with Route add "172.16.100.32"

        But fail from 172.16.100.22

        packetcapture-igc1.103-20240108164045.pcap

        I also tried to add networks for distribtution in but no change
        9760c586-277e-4cc4-a96a-675a0cadae3c-image.png

        Just seems like the pfsense router is just not routing packets to known subnet .. but only from specific networks

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          Adding a static route to the windows client changes nothing in how pfSense routes that traffic. It has to be in the client itself.

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          • penguinpagesP
            penguinpages @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10

            Not sure what you mean.

            If my systems (windows / linux) are on 172.16.100.0/24 and know nothing of how to route to 172.16.113.0/24, they just use Default GW 172.16.100.1 which is pfsense.

            Route (pfsense) then refers to its table, and based on BGP knows path to get to 172.16.113.0/24 is via 172.16.103.110.

            PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1                               OK!
            PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
             OK!
            PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176  # --> timeout
            
            PS C:\Users\user> route -p delete 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.100.1 METRIC 1
             OK!
            PS C:\Users\user> route -p add 172.16.113.0 MASK 255.255.255.0 172.16.103.110 METRIC 1
             OK!
            PS C:\Users\user> curl 172.16.113.176
            
            
            StatusCode        : 200
            StatusDescription : OK
            Content           : <!DOCTYPE html>
                                <html lang="en-US">
                                <head>
            
            
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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              OK how does the client know how to reach 172.16.103.110? That must also be via pfSense at 172.16.100.1 right?

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              • penguinpagesP
                penguinpages @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10

                Yes

                Route table from pfsense:

                Codes: K - kernel route, C - connected, S - static, R - RIP,
                       O - OSPF, I - IS-IS, B - BGP, E - EIGRP, T - Table,
                       v - VNC, V - VNC-Direct, A - Babel, f - OpenFabric,
                       > - selected route, * - FIB route, q - queued, r - rejected, b - backup
                       t - trapped, o - offload failure
                
                K>* 0.0.0.0/0 [0/0] via 108.234.144.1, igc0, 4d02h15m
                C>* 10.10.10.1/32 [0/1] is directly connected, lo0, 4d02h15m
                B>* 10.43.0.0/24 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
                C>* 108.234.144.0/22 [0/1] is directly connected, igc0, 4d02h15m
                C>* 172.16.100.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.100, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.101.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.101, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.102.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.102, 1d17h42m
                S   172.16.103.0/24 [1/0] via 172.16.103.110 inactive, weight 1, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.103.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.103, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.104.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, ovpns1, 4d02h15m
                C>* 172.16.110.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.110, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.111.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.111, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.112.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.112, 1d17h42m
                B>* 172.16.113.72/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d17h17m
                B>* 172.16.113.176/32 [20/0] via 172.16.103.110, igc1.103, weight 1, 1d02h20m
                C>* 172.16.120.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.120, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.121.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.121, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.122.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.122, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.130.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.130, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.131.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.131, 1d17h42m
                C>* 172.16.132.0/24 [0/1] is directly connected, igc1.132, 1d17h42m
                
                
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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  So what did the states show when you try to open it without the static route on the client?

                  Looking at the pfSense routing table I wonder if the inactive more specific route to 172.16.103.0/24 is causing a problem. 🤔

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                  • penguinpagesP
                    penguinpages @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10

                    Could be...

                    But.......

                    Why when I add route to host... does it start working?
                    Why when from the hosting system can I (without adding route) get to site?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      I'd still be checking the states and/or running an ping and pcaps to see where that is actually being sent.

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                      • penguinpagesP
                        penguinpages @stephenw10
                        last edited by

                        @stephenw10

                        Just to close this out and also post what I learned.

                        Root cause: Server with multiple interfaces, where BGP and cilium are binding to the NOT default interface,, will never work.

                        Ex:
                        c028db1a-0f93-46c0-a5f0-d26e67a1282e-image.png

                        Idea was to have VLAN 103 for all containers.. used by various K8 clusters.... but.. Cilium returns routes based on underlying Linux .. which follows DGW through 172.16.100... which confuses hosts waiting for packets to return from pfsense 172.16.103.1

                        Working design:

                        99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

                        Change:

                        1. remove all L2/3 subnet for 172.16.103.0
                        2. setup within CNI (Cilium) that its IP pool is now 172.16.103.0/24
                        3. redirect all bgp through host with bound DGW 172.16.100.110 with bgp neighbor definition to 172.16.100.1 (pfsense)

                        Now BGP does not take weird packet paths etc.

                        How I root cause.: Watch packet sessions on host:
                        tcpdump -i br103 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                        then

                        tcpdump -i br100 -s 0 'tcp port http'

                        Then from laptop
                        curl http://172.16.113.176

                        what I saw was packets in (10x due to fail return)... on both interfaces... which means return was out different interface.

                        Thanks for those who helped respond and posting. Hope this helps others not shave the same yak.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Nice catch. 👍

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                            vacquah @penguinpages
                            last edited by vacquah

                            @penguinpages can you share your cilium bgp peering policy? I’d like to see what it looks like. I am having the same problem. I use almost the same equipment you have - I have a pfsense doing bgp, a brocade icx7250 doing layer 3 routing ( all my vlans are setup here ) and I have a server with 2 nics. I cant connect to a test nginx demo i have setup on my kubernetes cluster with cilium.

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                            • penguinpagesP
                              penguinpages @vacquah
                              last edited by

                              @vacquah said in BGP - K3S Kubernetes:

                              cilium bgp peering policy?

                              K3S Deployment

                              
                              Install Cilium and K3S
                              https://docs.k3s.io/cli/server
                              
                              
                              

                              CILIUM_CLI_VERSION=$(curl -s https://raw.githubusercontent.com/cilium/cilium-cli/main/stable.txt)
                              CLI_ARCH=amd64
                              if [ "$(uname -m)" = "aarch64" ]; then CLI_ARCH=arm64; fi
                              curl -L --fail --remote-name-all https://github.com/cilium/cilium-cli/releases/download/${CILIUM_CLI_VERSION}/cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                              sha256sum --check cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz.sha256sum
                              sudo tar xzvfC cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz /usr/local/bin
                              rm cilium-linux-${CLI_ARCH}.tar.gz{,.sha256sum}
                              curl -sfL https://get.k3s.io | INSTALL_K3S_EXEC='--flannel-backend=none --disable-network-policy --disable=servicelb --disable=traefik --tls-san=172.16.100.110 --disable-kube-proxy --node-label bgp-policy=pandora' sh -
                              export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml
                              echo "export KUBECONFIG=/etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml" >> ~/.bashrc
                              sudo -E cilium install --version 1.14.5 --set ipam.operator.clusterPoolIPv4PodCIDRList=10.43.0.0/16 --set bgpControlPlane.enabled=true --set k8sServiceHost=172.16.100.110 --set k8sServicePort=6443 --set kubeProxyReplacement=true --set ingressController.enabled=true --set ingressController.loadbalancerMode=dedicated

                              vi /etc/rancher/k3s/k3s.yaml

                              replace 127.0.0.1 with host ip 172.16.100.110

                              sudo -E cilium status --wait
                              sudo cilium hubble enable # need to run as root.. sudo profile issue
                              sudo -E cilium connectivity test
                              sudo -E kubectl get svc --all-namespaces
                              kubectl get services -A
                              sudo cilium hubble enable

                              
                              
                              Then apply policy
                              
                              
                              

                              sudo su - admin
                              cd /media/md0/containers/
                              vi cilium_policy.yaml
                              ######################

                              apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                              kind: CiliumBGPPeeringPolicy
                              metadata:
                              name: rt1
                              spec:
                              nodeSelector:
                              matchLabels:
                              bgp-policy: pandora
                              virtualRouters:

                              • localASN: 65013
                                exportPodCIDR: true
                                neighbors:
                                • peerAddress: 172.16.100.1/24
                                  peerASN: 65014
                                  eBGPMultihopTTL: 10
                                  connectRetryTimeSeconds: 120
                                  holdTimeSeconds: 90
                                  keepAliveTimeSeconds: 30
                                  gracefulRestart:
                                  enabled: true
                                  restartTimeSeconds: 120
                                  serviceSelector:
                                  matchExpressions:
                                  • {key: somekey, operator: NotIn, values: ['never-used-value']}

                              apiVersion: "cilium.io/v2alpha1"
                              kind: CiliumLoadBalancerIPPool
                              metadata:
                              name: "pandorac"
                              spec:
                              cidrs:

                              • cidr: "172.16.103.0/24"
                                ##########
                                root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl apply -f cilium_policy.yaml
                                root@pandora:/media/md0/containers# kubectl get ippools -A
                                NAME DISABLED CONFLICTING IPS AVAILABLE AGE
                                pandorac false False 253 4s

                              root@pandora:~# kubectl get svc -A
                              NAMESPACE NAME TYPE CLUSTER-IP EXTERNAL-IP PORT(S) AGE
                              default kubernetes ClusterIP 10.43.0.1 <none> 443/TCP 6m
                              kube-system kube-dns ClusterIP 10.43.0.10 <none> 53/UDP,53/TCP,9153/TCP 5m54s
                              kube-system metrics-server ClusterIP 10.43.76.245 <none> 443/TCP 5m53s
                              kube-system hubble-peer ClusterIP 10.43.10.37 <none> 443/TCP 5m50s
                              kube-system hubble-relay ClusterIP 10.43.124.90 <none> 80/TCP 2m53s
                              cilium-test echo-same-node NodePort 10.43.151.50 <none> 8080:30525/TCP 2m3s
                              cilium-test cilium-ingress-ingress-service NodePort 10.43.4.143 <none> 80:31000/TCP,443:31001/TCP 2m3s
                              kube-system cilium-ingress LoadBalancer 10.43.36.151 172.16.103.248 80:32261/TCP,443:32232/TCP 5m50s

                              
                              
                              Note Router BGP Status: Note state = Active
                              Ex: in web ui of rt1 (pfsense router -> status -> frr -> BGP -> Neighbor)
                              

                              BGP neighbor is 172.16.100.110, remote AS 65013, local AS 65014, external link
                              Local Role: undefined
                              Remote Role: undefined
                              Description: pandorac Container interface Neighbor
                              Hostname: pandora
                              BGP version 4, remote router ID 172.16.100.110, local router ID 172.16.100.1
                              BGP state = Established, up for 00:01:12
                              Last read 00:00:12, Last write 00:00:12

                              
                              Optional: Test external routing of example test website works from Ex: windows host on 172.16.100.0/24
                              
                              

                              PS C:\Users\Jerem> curl http://172.16.103.248

                              StatusCode : 200
                              StatusDescription : OK
                              Content : <!DOCTYPE html>
                              <html lang="en-US">
                              <head>
                              <meta charset="UTF-8" />
                              <meta name="viewport" content="width=device-width, initial-scale=1" />
                              <meta name='robots' content='max-image-preview:large' />
                              <t...
                              RawContent : HTTP/1.1 200 OK

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                                vacquah @penguinpages
                                last edited by

                                @penguinpages Thanks for sharing. I am getting confused / lost with all the IPs

                                Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? I am having a hard time getting the big picture.

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                                • penguinpagesP
                                  penguinpages @vacquah
                                  last edited by

                                  @vacquah

                                  Is 172.16.100.1/24 your pfsense router ip? --> Yes.. Router connected to DGW for host and inteface for BGP communication

                                  Is 172.16.100.110 a specific kubernetes controlplane or worker node? --> Yes. Host sending BGP hosting CNI "CiIium network 172.16.103.0/24 (IP Pool).. .with Overlay network 10.43.0.0/16

                                  I am having a hard time getting the big picture. ---> See above before /after diagram

                                  Working design:

                                  99821352-79e2-47f3-8a16-807ac924ad2a-image.png

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