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    SG-5100 takes over 20 minutes to boot after eMMC failure

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      ms166
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      johnpoz is going for a Transcend TS128GMSA230S. I bought two Transcend TS240GMTS420S they seem to work fine, but for my others SG-5100 I wanted to choose the TS128GMTS430S (ECC enabled I belive) is there a "better" choice when choosing a SSD for the SG-5100?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        @ms166 said in SG-5100 takes over 20 minutes to boot after eMMC failure:

        TS128GMTS430S

        That should work fine. I'm not sure how you might define 'better'. You could probably find an SLC drive with better write endurance etc. But it would be waaay more expensive!

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        • LarryFahnoeL
          LarryFahnoe
          last edited by LarryFahnoe

          After reading through this thread, my question is about a recommendation for an SSD for the new 4200. Also, I'm assuming that the mmc-utils mentioned https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/disk-lifetime.html#emmc will work on the 4200?

          --Larry

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            serbus @LarryFahnoe
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            Hello!

            I have been using the Transcend MLC drives (MSA370, MTS400S) in builds. Their endurance specs (DWPD, TBW) seem to be much better than the 3D NAND drives.

            John

            Lex parsimoniae

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              It does not, at least currently, because it's also USB connected in the 4200.

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              • LarryFahnoeL
                LarryFahnoe
                last edited by

                Thanks @serbus and @stephenw10

                Perhaps I should have started a new thread specific to the 4200... But since I didn't: looking for some guidance on the particulars to look for for an SSD for the 4200. The online documentation I've found thus far is thin. Netgate's 4200 web specs say "1x M.2 (M-key slot) x4 PCIe 4.0", Silicom's specs say "NVMe M.2 SSD"

                Which form factor (for example, 2242 or 2280??) for the 4200?
                Which interface is better for the 4200? I note that the Transcend devices mentioned are SATA III, but the thread is about the SG-5100.
                Which version of NVMe?

                Thoughts & opinions about different types of NAND are certainly welcome, but as I'm not well versed in these issues, pardon what may seem like basic questions.

                I have a pair of 4200s on order and would like to get the correct SSDs so that I can install them once they arrive.

                https://shop.netgate.com/products/4200-pfsense
                https://www.silicom-usa.com/pr/4g-5g-products/4g-5g-appliances/valencia-network-appliance-series/

                --Larry

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  They are 2280 without any sort of adapter hardware. There is one M-keyed slot and one B-keyed slot. Dual keyed drives will therefore give you most flexibility.

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                  • LarryFahnoeL
                    LarryFahnoe
                    last edited by

                    Thank you @stephenw10, what about the interface specs (SATA III, PCIe, NVMe) or is this something that doesn't really matter given the 4200 hardware throughput capabilities and application? So for example, the Transcend SATA III M.2 SSDs vs. their PCIe M.2 SSDs?

                    --Larry

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      They are NVMe for the 4200.

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                      • LarryFahnoeL
                        LarryFahnoe
                        last edited by

                        Thanks Stephen.

                        --Larry

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                          chmac @cswroe
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                          @cswroe
                          i did not run with the same luck, i pulled out the emmc, but didnt work again... remain dead, the com port and the leds appear to be fine, but wont boot

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                            tjcooks4829 @hayescompatible
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                            Add me to the list of successful chip-pullers. SG-5100 would not boot at all, no boot menu. I pried the eMMC chip off the board and it boots right up now. 👍 Installed a M.2 drive while I was in there, just installed pfSense to it and restored my config. This thing is hopefully back in service for a bunch more years.

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