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    • Dobby_D
      Dobby_ @mphodge
      last edited by

      @mphodge

      I put it back in, I get the logs as previously. It connects but no IP address.

      It can be that the network is false, let us say as an example you are a
      T-Mobile customer, you may set up then also the following;

      • Country: Your country
      • Telekom: telekom.iot.devices.de
      • APN: APN number or name
      • Name: the name you got from the mobile provider
      • Passwort: the password you got from your provider

      Please see the photos below: (2 points you can insert those informations)
      Interfaces > PPP
      mphodge1.jpg

      Interface: LTE (or how you was naming it)
      mphodge2.jpg

      It is a SIM from a mobile phone, so includes calls and data, not a data-only SIM.

      In your mobile phone the Name and Passwort will be inserted over the
      SIM directly or over the first connect but in pfSense you must insert this
      by hand.

      Do you think it's being blocked by the provider?

      Fals APN number false network? The Telekom or T-Mobile is setting up here
      different networks for mobile phones and so you must also have or know the
      exactly network name, as an example, not tmobile.iot4.mobile.net but
      with tmobile.iot8.mobile.net it is the right one you need to take,
      (Only as an example)

      Perhaps you must find out a special AT string that must be inserted
      to start and connect the modem correctly to the mobile ISP.

      Have a look at @stephenw10 `s last post.

      #~. @Dobby

      Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
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      • M
        mphodge
        last edited by

        So, I ordered a data-only SIM that comes with a public IP address to try this.

        Inserted, and got same logs as above, i.e.

        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: LayerUp
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: rec'd Discard Request #11 (Opened)
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 35
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0]   Name: "UMTS_CHAP_SRVR"
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] CHAP: Using authname "user"
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 25
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #1 len: 4
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: authorization successful
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] Link: Matched action 'bundle "wan" ""'
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] Link: Join bundle "wan"
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 150000000 bps
        

        But then no IP;

        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan]   IPADDR 0.0.0.0
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan]   COMPPROTO VJCOMP, 16 comp. channels, no comp-cid
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan]   PRIDNS 0.0.0.0
        Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan]   SECDNS 0.0.0.0
        

        So then I tried the SIM on a laptop with Windows 10, and it connects and gets an IP = SIM OK.

        So then I tried a test on 2100 with NO SIM inserted and get exact same logs as above!
        Which makes me wonder - is the SIM slot actually working??
        How do I test from the modem if the SIM is working?

        I tried the following from CLI using cu:

        Connected
        at&f
        OK
        atdt ###########
        NO CARRIER
        

        So maybe the SIM slot is not connected to the M.2 interface?

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          It is connected. You can check it from the AT prompt like:

          at+cpin?
          +CPIN: READY
          
          at+cimi
          234444404998758
          

          If you see:

          at+cpin?
          +CME ERROR: SIM not inserted
          

          That's a problem.

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          • M
            mphodge
            last edited by

            Yes, I get:

            atz
            OK
            at+cpin?
            +CME ERROR: SIM not inserted
            at+cimi
            ERROR
            

            Ok so that's the problem then.
            How can I determine where the fault is?
            I know the SIM works in a laptop.
            I also know the modem works.
            Maybe a faulty device?
            This is showing the way I insert the SIM, in fact it 'clicks' when pushed in.
            2100.png

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            • M
              mphodge
              last edited by

              Ok, so I rebooted the 2100 with the SIM inserted and now I get:

              at+cpin?
              +CPIN: READY
              OK
              at+cimi
              204080830238557
              OK
              

              However, still no PPP connection. Same logs as previously, tries to connect, authenticates ok, no IP, terminates process.
              Have double-checked the APN name which is correct from the SIM supplier.
              😞

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @mphodge
                last edited by

                I don't think it's the SIM. Or at least not the connectivity to it. When you tested it without the SIM did you reboot in between? I'm not sure when the modem actually queries it but I'd be amazed it got that far without any SIM present.

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                • Dobby_D
                  Dobby_
                  last edited by

                  I saw your picture (2100 with the modem), please connect the antennas even
                  before your empower the modem, the antennas are grounding the modem
                  device!!! (electric grounding)

                  Is this a M.2 modem? Are the antennas also made for M.2 or only for miniPCIe?
                  There are differences between.

                  There are two modes DIP (direct IP) or QMI (Qualcomm MSM Interface),
                  I use a Sierra Wireless 7710 LTE modem and must set it up to the DIP
                  mode, until it was not working for me in pfSense.

                  Finding out the mode for my modem was marching this way;

                  [24.03-RC][root@xxx.xxx]/root: usbconfig
                  ugen1.1: <AMD EHCI root HUB> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAV                            E (0mA)
                  ugen0.1: <AMD XHCI root HUB> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=SUPER (5.0Gbps) pwr=SA                            VE (0mA)
                  ugen2.1: <AMD EHCI root HUB> at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAV                            E (0mA)
                  ugen1.2: <vendor 0x0438 product 0x7900> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mb                            ps) pwr=SAVE (100mA)
                  ugen2.2: <vendor 0x0438 product 0x7900> at usbus2, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mb                            ps) pwr=SAVE (100mA)
                  ugen2.3: <u-blox AG - www.u-blox.com u-blox 6  -  GPS Receiver> at usbus2, cfg=0                             md=HOST spd=FULL (12Mbps) pwr=ON (100mA)
                  ugen0.2: <Sierra Wireless, Incorporated MC7710> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIG                            H (480Mbps) pwr=ON (0mA)
                  
                  
                  [24.03-RC][root@xxx.xxx]/root: usbconfig -d 0.2 dump_device_desc
                  ugen0.2: <Sierra Wireless, Incorporated MC7710> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=ON (0mA)
                  
                    bLength = 0x0012
                    bDescriptorType = 0x0001
                    bcdUSB = 0x0200
                    bDeviceClass = 0x0000  <Probed by interface class>
                    bDeviceSubClass = 0x0000
                    bDeviceProtocol = 0x0000
                    bMaxPacketSize0 = 0x0040
                    idVendor = 0x1199
                    idProduct = 0x68a3
                    bcdDevice = 0x0006
                    iManufacturer = 0x0003  <Sierra Wireless, Incorporated>
                    iProduct = 0x0002  <MC7710>
                    iSerialNumber = 0x0004  <358178041368210>
                    bNumConfigurations = 0x0001
                  
                  

                  This command shows the USB PID

                  usbconfig -d 0.2 dump_device_desc
                  

                  68A2 = QMI mode
                  68A3 = DIP mode

                  1199:68a2 - MC7710 in QMI mode
                  1199:68a3 - MC7710 in DirectIP mode

                  I was using this toll here for setting the modem to the DIP mode:
                  DIP_QMI mode switch tool

                  Insert the modem and the SIM card, boot the pfSense, after boot up go via console (Putty) and set up the following commands to find out more;

                  # connects to the modem
                  cu -l /dev/cuaU0.2
                  answer or oputput will be "Connected
                  
                  # puts the modem in verbose mode
                  AT+CMEE=2
                  
                  # Shows the vendor and bands
                  ATI
                  
                  # proofing the SIM / PIN
                  AT+cpin?
                  
                  # Proofing the signal strength of the Band/Antenna
                  AT+CSQ
                  
                  # is scanning the available networks
                  AT+COPS=?
                  
                  # Check the mobile phone activity status 
                  AT+CPAS
                  
                  # shows the modem.log
                  tail -f /var/log/ppp.log
                  

                  You can also try out to set the modem into the DIP mode by using this:

                  AT!ENTERCND="A710"
                  AT!UDPID=68A3
                  AT!RESE
                  

                  #~. @Dobby

                  Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                  PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Most of that shouldn't be required on the EM7455. Since it's presenting an AT interface it must be running an appropriate composition.

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                      mphodge
                      last edited by

                      This is what I get from usbconfig:
                      617d5b62-181b-4f37-b5fd-5132a710135d-image.png

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                        mphodge
                        last edited by

                        Sorry had to screen shot as the site thought I was posting spam for some reason!
                        Output from modem:

                        cu -l /dev/cuaU0.2
                        Connected
                        
                        at+cmee=2
                        OK
                        
                        ati
                        Manufacturer: Sierra Wireless, Incorporated
                        Model: EM7455
                        Revision: SWI9X30C_02.38.00.00 rE3F3E55C03AE94 jenkins 2022/01/13 05:16:00
                        MEID: 35399007355869
                        IMEI: 353990073558699
                        IMEI SV: 22
                        FSN: LF641313650210
                        +GCAP: +CGSM,+DS,+ES
                        OK
                        
                        at+cpin?
                        +CPIN: READY
                        OK
                        
                        at+csq
                        +csq: 8,99
                        OK
                        
                        at+cops=?
                        +cops: (2,"3 UK","3 UK","23420",2),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
                        OK
                        
                        at+cpas
                        +CPAS: 0
                        OK
                        

                        The PPP still does not connect. Any ideas for next step?

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Hmm, this feels like it has to be the provider. Though that's hard to explain because I'm using "3 UK" and it works fine.

                          Did you test without the SIM in after rebooting? Just make sure it fails earlier in the process.

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                          • Dobby_D
                            Dobby_
                            last edited by

                            at+cpas
                            +CPAS: 0
                            OK
                            

                            0 = Ready (Mobile Termination (MT) allows commands from Terminal Adapter (TA)/Terminal Equipment (TE))

                            at+csq
                            +csq: 8,99
                            OK
                            

                            I would have a look here to that tables, they are very good explaining the
                            signal strength and it may be brings you to change the position of your
                            pfSense box to get a better or excellent signal strength. Often are antennas with a 1/2 meter cable and a magnetic stand will be able to let the router
                            where it is but you get also a better signal. LTE Signal strength

                            at+cops=?
                            +cops: (2,"3 UK","3 UK","23420",2),,(0,1,2,3,4),(0,1,2)
                            OK
                            

                            This are the available networks you may be able to reach from your router.
                            Here you may be able to see another output with very excellent
                            area roaming as an example.

                            +COPS: (1,"3 UK","3 UK","23420",2),(1,"Orange F","Orange","20801",7),
                            (1,"F-Bouygues Telecom","BYTEL","20820",7),(1,"F SFR","SFR","20810",2),
                            (1,"Free","Free","20815",7),(1,"Airtel-Vodafone","ATL-VOD","23403",7),
                            (1,"Airtel-Vodafone","ATL-VOD","23403",2),(1,"JT","JT","23450",7),
                            (1,"Sure","Sure","23455",7),(1,"JT","JT","23450",2),(1,"Sure","Sure","23455",2),
                            (1,"vodafone UK","voda UK","23415",2),(1,"EE","EE","23430",2),
                            (1,"O2 - UK","O2 - UK","23410",2),(1,"208 16","208 16","20816",7),,(0-4),(0-2)
                            

                            So perhaps you may be put the router to another place to get better results.

                            3 UK","23420"
                            

                            But anyway, this is the interesting part for you, the 5 digit number is
                            presenting your region; 23420 = Hutchinson 3G (3) – United Kingdom

                            #~. @Dobby

                            Turris Omnia - 4 Ports - 2 GB RAM / TurrisOS 7 Release (Btrfs)
                            PC Engines APU4D4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense CE 2.7.2 Release (ZFS)
                            PC Engines APU6B4 - 4 Ports - 4 GB RAM / pfSense+ (Plus) 24.03_1 Release (ZFS)

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                            • M
                              mphodge
                              last edited by

                              Ok, thanks for your helpful diagnostics :-)

                              So, without a SIM card inserted, the PPP logs:

                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] Bundle: Interface ng0 created
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] Link: OPEN event
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] LCP: Open event
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] LCP: state change Initial --> Starting
                              ...
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] CHAP: Using authname "user"
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 25
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #1 len: 4
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] LCP: authorization successful
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] Link: Matched action 'bundle "wan" ""'
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] Link: Join bundle "wan"
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] Bundle: Status update: up 1 link, total bandwidth 150000000 bps
                              ...
                              Apr 17 16:18:09 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] IPCP: SendConfigReq #1
                              ...
                              Apr 17 16:18:28 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] IPV6CP: SendConfigReq #10
                              ...
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: fatal error, exiting
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] IFACE: Close event
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] IPCP: Close event
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] IPV6CP: Close event
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan] Bundle: Shutdown
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: [wan_link0] Link: Shutdown
                              Apr 17 16:18:36 pfSense ppp[57660]: process 57660 terminated
                              

                              What is the LCP authorizing with here if there is no SIM? and how is it successful?

                              With a known-working SIM inserted and router rebooted, exactly the same up until:

                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IPCP: SendConfigReq #2
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   IPADDR 0.0.0.0
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   PRIDNS 0.0.0.0
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   SECDNS 0.0.0.0
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IPCP: rec'd Configure Nak #2 (Ack-Sent)
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   IPADDR 10.88.80.91
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]     10.88.80.91 is OK
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   PRIDNS 66.28.0.61
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   SECDNS 209.244.0.3
                              ...
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IPCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IPCP: LayerUp
                              Apr 17 16:43:24 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan]   10.88.80.91 -> 10.64.64.0
                              Apr 17 16:43:25 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IFACE: Up event
                              Apr 17 16:43:25 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IFACE: Rename interface ng0 to ppp0
                              Apr 17 16:43:25 pfSense ppp[86491]: [wan] IFACE: Add description "WAN"
                              

                              Aha! we finally have an IP address 👌
                              And WAN interface now shows as up. 😄
                              I think connecting the correct pigtails gave enough signal strength to finally work.
                              Only problem now is the IP is private and NAT'd by the provider, so will have to request a public!
                              Thanks for your help guys.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Nice!

                                Interesting though. I wouldn't expect that login to get nearly that far without a valid SIM.

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                                • Dobby_D
                                  Dobby_ @mphodge
                                  last edited by

                                  @mphodge said in Netgate 2100 micro sim + 4G LTE / 5G:

                                  Aha! we finally have an IP address

                                  In the interface setup you may be able to set up IPv6 = DHCP
                                  so you may be getting also an IPv6 IP address.

                                  And WAN interface now shows as up.

                                  You can now set up in the WAN settings what you need, failover
                                  or load balancing with failover.

                                  I think connecting the correct pigtails gave enough signal strength to finally work.

                                  You will see this by looking over the download/upload numbers.

                                  Only problem now is the IP is private and NAT'd by the provider, so will have to request a public!

                                  The most consumer contracts will be having this only, but often you will be able to get one together with a small business mobile phone contract.

                                  #~. @Dobby

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                                    aaronouthier
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                                    Apr 15 14:00:57 pfSense ppp[31402]: [wan_link0] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing

                                    I am far from being an expert, but this looks like an auth mismatch. The carrier expects CHAP auth, but the router is expecting no auth at all. That's what stands out to me in the logs. Again, I'm no expert.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      I think that only implies we are demanding nothing specific. That same line appears in a successful connection:

                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] LCP: state change Ack-Sent --> Opened
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] LCP: auth: peer wants CHAP, I want nothing
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] LCP: LayerUp
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] LCP: rec'd Discard Request #29 (Opened)
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] CHAP: rec'd CHALLENGE #1 len: 35
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] Name: "UMTS_CHAP_SRVR"
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] CHAP: Using authname "user"
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] CHAP: sending RESPONSE #1 len: 25
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] CHAP: rec'd SUCCESS #1 len: 4
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] LCP: authorization successful
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] Link: Matched action 'bundle "opt1" ""'
                                      Apr 25 01:08:03 	ppp 	43273 	[opt1_link0] Link: Join bundle "opt1" 
                                      
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                                        aaronouthier @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10

                                        Ahhh. I didn't realize this was solved. Thought OP was still having issues.

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