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    • Y
      yorke
      last edited by

      Virtual IP Address
      10.10.10.1/32 LAN IP Alias pfB DNSBL - DO NOT EDIT

      pfblockerng is at default did not change

      seeing it as soon as computers connect pings and udp 68 67 to and from that address.

      ifconfig WAN ipaddress starts with 98
      LAN ipaddress starts with 172

      IPv4 Routes default gateway
      default 98.X.X.X UGS 15 1500 ixl3

      10.10.10.1 link#10 UH 14 16384 lo0

      Alert from Suricata rule I created

      06/24/2024
      16:58:47 3 UDP Misc activity 10.10.176.1
      67 255.255.255.255
      68 1:10000151
      🐾 Unknown Reserved Internal IP - 10.10.176.1/24 🕵

      Suricata is setup on LAN.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Then I'd suspect a client that moved from a different WiFi network where that subnet is used and hasn't updated yet.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yorke
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          @yorke yeah as @stephenw10 mentions - destination port 67 to broadcast address would be a request or discovery.. My guess would be request because the client prob asking for renew, ie to keep using its old IP, etc..

          What is the mac address - track it down on your network to what it is exactly.

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            yorke
            last edited by

            ip was from the wan
            Exploit UPnP & NAT-PMP
            disabled UPnP & NAT-PMP.

            I would like to thank the maintainer of Suricata
            if it was not for Suricata alerts i would not have caught this
            thank you

            good reason to have backups and extra drives
            swap drives and restore backup

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yorke
              last edited by johnpoz

              @yorke said in Unknown 10.x.x.x address:

              ip was from the wan

              Well then who cares its just noise.. Some dhcp from your isp network, or something you have upstream of pfsense - its not going to go anywhere.. Pfsense would just drop that traffic..

              edit: I had setup a sniff while back, just looked - what do you know some dhcp traffic on the isp network.. An offer and ack.. the dhcp server in the isp network - giving someone an IP..

              sniiffjpg.jpg

              Relay Agent IP Address: 10.205.128.1

              Maybe this is news to you - but ISPs use rfc1918 space in their networks ;)

              Why anyone would run IPS on their wan anyway - are you hosting services available to the public internet? If not makes zero sense to run IPS on the wan side..

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                yorke @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz

                Suricata running on the LAN always was

                address was hitting lan
                block address system on that
                LAN no internet (UPnP & NAT-PMP enable).
                unblock internet access.

                disable UPnP & NAT-PMP no address
                turn it back on and its back.

                packet capture on the wan.

                who cares I do when powershell scrip
                is trying to gain admin access.

                yes I do know ISPs use rfc1918 space.

                Topic Closed Resolve

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @yorke
                  last edited by

                  @yorke said in Unknown 10.x.x.x address:

                  address was hitting lan

                  Then your not isolated at layer 2 between your wan an your lan.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Reads to me like something keeps opening port forwards to non-existent targets using UPnP. That should show in the UPnP status though. And you should be able to see which host keeps opening then and the investigate what it's running that's doing that.

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 possible I guess - but the traffic is broadcast, what sort of port opening or forward would forward broadcast?f

                      Who would even have UPnP enabled - if they are concerned that some powershell script is going to own him?

                      If the traffic was being seen by his lan interface lack of isolation at layer 2 between his wan and lan seems more probable to me.

                      Does your wan connection run through a switch - or just single cable to your isp device, and no other cables at all connected to the isp device?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Mmm, indeed. If you really need UPnP then lock it down to only known devices.

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