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VAR out of space - Ram disk setting does nothing

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    SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
    last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 2:31 AM

    @ngr2001 Iโ€™ve never had a problem setting RAM disk size but I recall a thread I think a month or two ago with a similar complaint.

    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
    Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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      ngr2001 @SteveITS
      last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 3:47 AM

      @SteveITS

      I searched and found no solution.

      I am not apposed to disabling RAM Disks either, however after trying that I am still out of disk space. Is there any easy way to increase the disk size. Not sure what I am to do here.

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
        last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 4:22 AM

        @ngr2001 If you disable the RAM disk youโ€™re still out of space? You should have the 112 GB. Get a bigger disk or figure out whatโ€™s using so muchโ€ฆ?

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 4:54 AM

          What pfSense version is that?

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            ngr2001 @stephenw10
            last edited by ngr2001 Mar 23, 2025, 5:07 AM Mar 23, 2025, 5:07 AM

            @stephenw10

            PFSense Plus
            login-to-view

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              ngr2001 @SteveITS
              last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 5:10 AM

              @SteveITS

              I disabled the RAM Disk and rebooted and now its still looks like this

              login-to-view

              That doesnt seem to make sense to me.

              I am running Suricata, I turned on log management but the 60Mb partition is still showing full.

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
                last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 9:47 AM

                @ngr2001 Are other changes retained after restart?

                FWIW here is the other thread:
                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195486/changes-to-ram-disk-size-not-affecting-actual-filesystem-size/11

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by stephenw10 Mar 23, 2025, 10:21 AM Mar 23, 2025, 10:21 AM

                  Yeah I was thinking the same, it does seem likely to be the same cause. It's using the default values for the sizes there. I wasn't able to replicate it either.

                  Have you upgraded to 24.11 or is it a clean install?

                  Was it upgraded from CE?

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                    ngr2001 @stephenw10
                    last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 1:02 PM

                    @stephenw10

                    Clean install from a bootable usb stick. Was never upgraded, started as plus never ce.

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 2:50 PM

                      Hmm, OK. At some point you did deliberately set RAM disks enabled though? But now there seems to be no way to disable them?

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                        ngr2001 @stephenw10
                        last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 2:58 PM

                        @stephenw10

                        That is correct.

                        In this case, I installed PFSense Plus clean from USB Boot stick. I then hand applied all my desired settings. Out of habit, the 1st thing I normally do after install is configure the RAM Disks. Only reason being, to extend the life of the SSD.

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                          ngr2001 @SteveITS
                          last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 3:01 PM

                          @SteveITS

                          Seems like other settings on the System - Advanced- Miscellaneous -
                          page are working. For example I enabled PowerD & QAT, both are working after reboot.

                          Other Settings:
                          login-to-view

                          Evidence Working:
                          login-to-view

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                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
                            last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 3:08 PM

                            @ngr2001 Is the setting in the config file the 40/60 or what you set?

                            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                            Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                              ngr2001 @SteveITS
                              last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 4:17 PM

                              @SteveITS

                              Which config file, not sure what you mean / asking.

                              I did clean normal install, next through all defaults. On 1st boot I enabled RAM Disks and set to 512Gb each, however that never took effect. It;s been stuck at 60Mb since install. I disabled RAM Disks, and its still shows 60Mb.

                              If there is a file you would like me to check let me know.

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                                SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
                                last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 4:35 PM

                                @ngr2001 Diagnostics/Backup will download it.

                                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 4:46 PM

                                  Could be some variation of this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16023 Though I've never seen that in 24.11.

                                  If so it should be fixed in the next 25.03 build.

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                                    ngr2001 @SteveITS
                                    last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 5:19 PM

                                    @SteveITS

                                    RAM Disk is disabled currently, my backup config shows the bellow 2 values:

                                    <use_mfs_tmp_size>512</use_mfs_tmp_size>
                                    <use_mfs_var_size>512</use_mfs_var_size>

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                                      ngr2001 @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 7:17 PM

                                      @stephenw10

                                      When does that come out, anything I can do in the mean time ?

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                                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @ngr2001
                                        last edited by Mar 23, 2025, 8:19 PM

                                        @ngr2001 Itโ€™s been in beta for a while:
                                        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/196342/pfsense-plus-25-03-beta-is-here

                                        Vague guess, a week or two after an RC version so maybe in a month, give or take.

                                        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                                          ngr2001 @SteveITS
                                          last edited by Mar 24, 2025, 1:13 PM

                                          @SteveITS

                                          If I wasn't going to use RAM Disks, is there an easy way to increase the disk partition size ?

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