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    • fireodoF
      fireodo @Mission-Ghost
      last edited by

      @Mission-Ghost said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

      Sweet.

      Nice that it tastes good 😁 😁

      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
      pfsense 2.8.0 CE
      Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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      • JonathanLeeJ
        JonathanLee @fireodo
        last edited by JonathanLee

        @fireodo You should set this in cron right? Because this will default every reboot...

        zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var
        zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/tmp

        should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

        Make sure to upvote

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        • fireodoF
          fireodo @JonathanLee
          last edited by

          @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

          You use the zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var in cron right?

          No.

          Because this will default every reboot...

          Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot. (btw. on 23.04.2025 the system was rebooted, after an long power outage that exhausted the UPS, caused by work on the power line by the provider)

          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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          • fireodoF
            fireodo @JonathanLee
            last edited by

            @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

            should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

            You should see the status if you run:

            zfs get -r sync pfSense
            

            or

            zfs get -r sync zroot
            

            depending on what pfsense system you are.

            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
            pfsense 2.8.0 CE
            Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @fireodo
              last edited by JonathanLee

              @fireodo Thank you for the reply,

              Shell Output - zfs get -r sync pfSense
              NAME                                                                                PROPERTY  VALUE     SOURCE
              pfSense                                                                             sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT                                                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone                                                         sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/cf                                                      sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/var_db_pkg                                              sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                 sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                      sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                         sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup                                                   sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/cf                                                sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_cache_pkg                                     sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6                                                          sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                    sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                 sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                         sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy                                   sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf                                sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone                                 sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0           sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0           sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/cf                              sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/var_db_pkg                      sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025                                           sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/cf                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850                                           sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                     sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                     sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                     sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                  sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0       sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0       sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0       sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0       sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0          sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753                                            sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                      sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf                                         sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                   sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg                              sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0        sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg                                 sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0           sync      -         -
              pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227                                                   sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/cf                                                sync      standard  default
              pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/home                                                                        sync      standard  default
              pfSense/reservation                                                                 sync      standard  default
              pfSense/tmp                                                                         sync      disabled  local
              pfSense/var                                                                         sync      disabled  local
              pfSense/var/cache                                                                   sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
              pfSense/var/db                                                                      sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
              pfSense/var/log                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
              pfSense/var/tmp                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
              

              logs and temp are now excluded from sync

              and I also set

              vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=120
              

              I also use a secondary nvme drive just for package logs I have a mount point and created linker files that direct everything that is write intensive over to it. That helps alot also, and or you can use a usb thumb drive for package logs if anyone is really worried.

              691b97ae-7284-4f19-af85-e2f8ac1c14a8-image.png

              https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195843/unofficial-guide-have-package-logs-record-to-a-secondary-ssd-drive-snort-syslog-squid-and-or-squid-cache-system/

              Make sure to upvote

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              • cmcdonaldC
                cmcdonald Netgate Developer @fireodo
                last edited by

                @fireodo said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

                Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot.

                Yes. This is correct. ZFS properties persist across reboots (unless they are changed by something during startup, say in pfSense-rc, though I don't think we do any of that)

                Need help fast? https://www.netgate.com/support

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                  dugeem
                  last edited by

                  One additional issue to be aware of is that up until pfSense+ 24.03 the Netgate SG-1100 (& SG-2100) installation images resulted in eMMC having non aligned flash partitions. This can result in file system activity causing sub optimal block writing (due to sectors crossing erase boundaries) resulting in increased flash wear.

                  pfSense Redmine reference -> https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/15126

                  Easy to check - from shell use the command:

                  gpart show mmcsd0
                  

                  and check numbers in first column for either freebsd / freebsd-zfs partitions are divisible by 8 (or a higher power of 2).

                  Generally if your SG-1100 (also SG-2100) was originally commissioned prior to pfSense+ 24.03 then you should consider reinstalling and restoring config.

                  Relevant Netgate SG-1100 documentation -> https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-1100/reinstall-pfsense.html

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                  • w0wW
                    w0w
                    last edited by

                    Netgate has finally implemented the fix.
                    https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16210#change-76840
                    Thank you, @marcosm, @fireodo, @andrew_cb

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                      Patch @w0w
                      last edited by Patch

                      Looks like it changes the vfs.zfs.txg.timeout default from
                      FreeBSD vfs.zfs.txg.timeout = 5
                      pfsense vfs.zfs.txg.timeout = 30

                      So not as high as 120 suggested but consistent with andrew_cb recommendation

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                        mvikman
                        last edited by mvikman

                        That patch code also has this: "zfs set sync=always pfSense/ROOT/default/cf"
                        Looking at my own system, I don't have that path, as I have only manually named Boot Environments, I have paths like "pfSense/ROOT/24.11_stable/cf ", so that part would fail.

                        Should the command be run manually on the current default/active BE path, "pfSense/ROOT/24.11_stable/cf " in my case?

                        pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                        Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                        Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                        HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                        HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yup. Fix incoming.

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                          • JonathanLeeJ
                            JonathanLee @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 should the timeout be 120 or 30?

                            Make sure to upvote

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                            • JonathanLeeJ
                              JonathanLee @andrew_cb
                              last edited by

                              @andrew_cb

                              zfs set sync=always pfSense/ROOT/default/cf

                              does not work on my 2100 I have a SSD should I run a different command for this?

                              Make sure to upvote

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                                marcosm Netgate
                                last edited by

                                A fix will be provided once it's ready on the following redmine:
                                https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16212

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                                  marcosm Netgate
                                  last edited by marcosm

                                  A patch is now available for testing on the redmine.

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                                    Mission-Ghost @stephenw10
                                    last edited by

                                    @stephenw10 is there a way to stop python pfblocker logging? I’ve tried to shut off all logging in pfblocker but the python module keeps on logging.

                                    I’d prefer to keep using the python module for its benefits but the logging I don’t use often consumes my ssd lifetime at all other times without benefit.

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                                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Mission-Ghost
                                      last edited by

                                      @Mission-Ghost What logging are you seeing?

                                      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                        Mission-Ghost @SteveITS
                                        last edited by

                                        @SteveITS dnsbl.log just keeps going and going:

                                        d3cf0c7e-cd41-460d-8eec-4290a36600f8-image.png

                                        This is useful on rare occasions when I need to find a site to white-list, but I'd like to turn it on only on such occasions and off the rest of the time.

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                                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @Mission-Ghost
                                          last edited by SteveITS

                                          @Mission-Ghost That's set for all lists here:
                                          968e538d-da94-4239-817b-192c8225874c-image.png

                                          or else on each list, e.g. on Firewall/pfBlockerNG/IP/IPv4.

                                          With the logging off we have:

                                          File successfully loaded: Total Lines: 0
                                          Log/File Path: /var/log/pfblockerng/dnsbl.log
                                          

                                          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                            Mission-Ghost @SteveITS
                                            last edited by Mission-Ghost

                                            @SteveITS Thank you!

                                            I found and set it on the master configuration:

                                            cefdeb75-2539-44f0-b66b-9420b67b975a-image.png

                                            The master setting seems to be working so far.

                                            Why does "Null Block (no logging)" log?

                                            Why does "No Global mode" not log?

                                            Is it just, me, or do the bullet points on the master DNSBL page fail to explain this clearly?

                                            By my way of reading this, "No Global Mode" tells me that the individual settings on each Group will prevail. It doesn't tell me that it is overriding the individual settings on each Group, and sure doesn't tell me that logging is disabled, unlike "no logging" which says it's disabled but it isn't.

                                            I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

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