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    • JonathanLeeJ
      JonathanLee @fireodo
      last edited by JonathanLee

      @fireodo You should set this in cron right? Because this will default every reboot...

      zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var
      zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/tmp

      should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

      Make sure to upvote

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      • fireodoF
        fireodo @JonathanLee
        last edited by

        @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

        You use the zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var in cron right?

        No.

        Because this will default every reboot...

        Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot. (btw. on 23.04.2025 the system was rebooted, after an long power outage that exhausted the UPS, caused by work on the power line by the provider)

        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
        pfsense 2.8.0 CE
        Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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        • fireodoF
          fireodo @JonathanLee
          last edited by

          @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

          should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

          You should see the status if you run:

          zfs get -r sync pfSense
          

          or

          zfs get -r sync zroot
          

          depending on what pfsense system you are.

          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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          • JonathanLeeJ
            JonathanLee @fireodo
            last edited by JonathanLee

            @fireodo Thank you for the reply,

            Shell Output - zfs get -r sync pfSense
            NAME                                                                                PROPERTY  VALUE     SOURCE
            pfSense                                                                             sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT                                                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone                                                         sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/cf                                                      sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/var_db_pkg                                              sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                 sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                      sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                         sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup                                                   sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/cf                                                sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_cache_pkg                                     sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6                                                          sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                    sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                 sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                         sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy                                   sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf                                sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone                                 sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0           sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0           sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/cf                              sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/var_db_pkg                      sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025                                           sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/cf                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850                                           sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                     sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                     sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                     sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                  sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0       sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0       sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0       sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0       sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0          sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753                                            sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                      sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf                                         sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                   sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg                              sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0        sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg                                 sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0           sync      -         -
            pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227                                                   sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/cf                                                sync      standard  default
            pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/home                                                                        sync      standard  default
            pfSense/reservation                                                                 sync      standard  default
            pfSense/tmp                                                                         sync      disabled  local
            pfSense/var                                                                         sync      disabled  local
            pfSense/var/cache                                                                   sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
            pfSense/var/db                                                                      sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
            pfSense/var/log                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
            pfSense/var/tmp                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
            

            logs and temp are now excluded from sync

            and I also set

            vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=120
            

            I also use a secondary nvme drive just for package logs I have a mount point and created linker files that direct everything that is write intensive over to it. That helps alot also, and or you can use a usb thumb drive for package logs if anyone is really worried.

            691b97ae-7284-4f19-af85-e2f8ac1c14a8-image.png

            https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195843/unofficial-guide-have-package-logs-record-to-a-secondary-ssd-drive-snort-syslog-squid-and-or-squid-cache-system/

            Make sure to upvote

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            • cmcdonaldC
              cmcdonald Netgate Developer @fireodo
              last edited by

              @fireodo said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

              Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot.

              Yes. This is correct. ZFS properties persist across reboots (unless they are changed by something during startup, say in pfSense-rc, though I don't think we do any of that)

              Need help fast? https://www.netgate.com/support

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                dugeem
                last edited by

                One additional issue to be aware of is that up until pfSense+ 24.03 the Netgate SG-1100 (& SG-2100) installation images resulted in eMMC having non aligned flash partitions. This can result in file system activity causing sub optimal block writing (due to sectors crossing erase boundaries) resulting in increased flash wear.

                pfSense Redmine reference -> https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/15126

                Easy to check - from shell use the command:

                gpart show mmcsd0
                

                and check numbers in first column for either freebsd / freebsd-zfs partitions are divisible by 8 (or a higher power of 2).

                Generally if your SG-1100 (also SG-2100) was originally commissioned prior to pfSense+ 24.03 then you should consider reinstalling and restoring config.

                Relevant Netgate SG-1100 documentation -> https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-1100/reinstall-pfsense.html

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                • w0wW
                  w0w
                  last edited by

                  Netgate has finally implemented the fix.
                  https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16210#change-76840
                  Thank you, @marcosm, @fireodo, @andrew_cb

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                    Patch @w0w
                    last edited by Patch

                    Looks like it changes the vfs.zfs.txg.timeout default from
                    FreeBSD vfs.zfs.txg.timeout = 5
                    pfsense vfs.zfs.txg.timeout = 30

                    So not as high as 120 suggested but consistent with andrew_cb recommendation

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                      mvikman
                      last edited by mvikman

                      That patch code also has this: "zfs set sync=always pfSense/ROOT/default/cf"
                      Looking at my own system, I don't have that path, as I have only manually named Boot Environments, I have paths like "pfSense/ROOT/24.11_stable/cf ", so that part would fail.

                      Should the command be run manually on the current default/active BE path, "pfSense/ROOT/24.11_stable/cf " in my case?

                      pfSense Plus 24.11-RELEASE (amd64)
                      Dell Optiplex 7040 SFF
                      Core i5-6500, 8GB RAM, 2x 240GB SSD (ZFS Mirror)
                      HPE 561T (X540-AT2), 2-port 10Gb RJ45
                      HPE 562SFP+ (X710-DA2), 2-port 10Gb SFP+

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Yup. Fix incoming.

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                        • JonathanLeeJ
                          JonathanLee @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 should the timeout be 120 or 30?

                          Make sure to upvote

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                          • JonathanLeeJ
                            JonathanLee @andrew_cb
                            last edited by

                            @andrew_cb

                            zfs set sync=always pfSense/ROOT/default/cf

                            does not work on my 2100 I have a SSD should I run a different command for this?

                            Make sure to upvote

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                              marcosm Netgate
                              last edited by

                              A fix will be provided once it's ready on the following redmine:
                              https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/16212

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                                marcosm Netgate
                                last edited by marcosm

                                A patch is now available for testing on the redmine.

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                                  Mission-Ghost @stephenw10
                                  last edited by

                                  @stephenw10 is there a way to stop python pfblocker logging? I’ve tried to shut off all logging in pfblocker but the python module keeps on logging.

                                  I’d prefer to keep using the python module for its benefits but the logging I don’t use often consumes my ssd lifetime at all other times without benefit.

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                                    SteveITS Galactic Empire @Mission-Ghost
                                    last edited by

                                    @Mission-Ghost What logging are you seeing?

                                    Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                    Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                      Mission-Ghost @SteveITS
                                      last edited by

                                      @SteveITS dnsbl.log just keeps going and going:

                                      d3cf0c7e-cd41-460d-8eec-4290a36600f8-image.png

                                      This is useful on rare occasions when I need to find a site to white-list, but I'd like to turn it on only on such occasions and off the rest of the time.

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                                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @Mission-Ghost
                                        last edited by SteveITS

                                        @Mission-Ghost That's set for all lists here:
                                        968e538d-da94-4239-817b-192c8225874c-image.png

                                        or else on each list, e.g. on Firewall/pfBlockerNG/IP/IPv4.

                                        With the logging off we have:

                                        File successfully loaded: Total Lines: 0
                                        Log/File Path: /var/log/pfblockerng/dnsbl.log
                                        

                                        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                        Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                          Mission-Ghost @SteveITS
                                          last edited by Mission-Ghost

                                          @SteveITS Thank you!

                                          I found and set it on the master configuration:

                                          cefdeb75-2539-44f0-b66b-9420b67b975a-image.png

                                          The master setting seems to be working so far.

                                          Why does "Null Block (no logging)" log?

                                          Why does "No Global mode" not log?

                                          Is it just, me, or do the bullet points on the master DNSBL page fail to explain this clearly?

                                          By my way of reading this, "No Global Mode" tells me that the individual settings on each Group will prevail. It doesn't tell me that it is overriding the individual settings on each Group, and sure doesn't tell me that logging is disabled, unlike "no logging" which says it's disabled but it isn't.

                                          I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!

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                                            SteveITS Galactic Empire @Mission-Ghost
                                            last edited by

                                            @Mission-Ghost No Global should mean it doesn’t override the individual settings. I just set it when creating each list so if the global settings aren’t working I profess ignorance. :)

                                            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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