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    "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @HaOsLsE
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      @HaOsLsE I think youโ€™re misunderstanding that the Installer is the way and there isnโ€™t a separate ISO for each version?
      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/install/netinstaller.html

      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
      Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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        The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

        One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

        The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

        You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

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          Stepinsky @SteveITS
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          @SteveITS Your link is not valid anymore. It gives me a 404.

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
            last edited by

            @Stepinsky it works for me? Maybe they were regenerating the docs or something.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/netinstaller.html

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
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                @Stepinsky Oh sorry I guess I clicked on the wrong link above, on my phone. Not sure what happened there as I copy/pasted.

                Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                  Finger79 @jimp
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                  @jimp said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                  The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

                  One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

                  The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

                  https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

                  You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

                  Just one disk, an SSD. This is a simple baremetal install. Pretty sure it's GPT and EFI. Secure boot is disabled until FreeBSD supports it or pfSense rebases off Linux.

                  Only thing I can think of is I'm using GELI for FDE, but I don't believe it was a problem upgrading from 2.6.x to 2.7.0 and then to 2.7.1 and 2.7.2.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

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                      Finger79 @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                      That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

                      How do I fix this without a full reinstall?

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        If you try running install-boot manually what error is returned?

                        [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@cedev-2.stevew.lan]/root: install-boot 
                        System Configuration
                        
                        Architecture: amd64
                        Boot Devices: /dev/ada0
                                      /dev/ada1
                         Boot Method: uefi
                          Filesystem: zfs
                            Platform: QEMU Guest
                        
                        Proced with updating boot code? [y/N]: y
                        
                        Updating boot code...
                        
                        /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada1
                        gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada1
                        partcode written to ada1p2
                        bootcode written to ada1
                        ESP /dev/ada1p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.7soQsf
                        263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                        263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                        Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                        Creating UEFI boot entry for FreeBSD
                        Marking UEFI boot entry 0008 active
                        Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                        Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                        Finished updating ESP
                        
                        /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada0
                        gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada0
                        partcode written to ada0p2
                        bootcode written to ada0
                        ESP /dev/ada0p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.MURwDh
                        263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                        263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                        Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                        Existing UEFI FreeBSD boot entry found: not creating a new one
                        Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                        Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                        Finished updating ESP
                        
                        Done.
                        
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                          Finger79 @stephenw10
                          last edited by Finger79

                          @stephenw10

                          System Configuration
                          
                          Architecture: amd64
                          Boot Devices: Unable
                                        to
                                        locate
                                        boot
                                        devices
                           Boot Method: uefi
                            Filesystem: zfs
                              Platform: unknown hardware
                          
                          

                          I said "no" when asked to proceed, since I'm not prepared for downtime in case it fails. This is currently my only production router/firewall.

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                            How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                            The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

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                              Finger79 @stephenw10
                              last edited by Finger79

                              @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                              Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                              How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                              The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

                              [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/dev: ls -l
                              total 3
                              crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x2f Jun 15 00:18 acpi
                              crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x73 Jun 15 00:18 ada0
                              crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x74 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p1
                              crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x75 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2
                              crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x78 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2.eli
                              crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x31 Jun 15 00:18 apm
                              crw-rw----  1 root operator 0x30 Jun 15 00:18 apmctl
                              crw-------  1 root wheel    0x39 Jun 15 00:18 atkbd0
                              
                              

                              (That's obviously a partial output of ls-l. There's a couple more pages, but that's all for ada*)

                              pfSense Disks.JPG

                              Do either of these help answer your question?

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Yes, that the disks still appear as adaX but one partition is different. What does gpart list show?

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                                  Finger79 @stephenw10
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                                  [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/root: gpart list
                                  Geom name: ada0
                                  modified: false
                                  state: OK
                                  fwheads: 16
                                  fwsectors: 63
                                  last: 250069639
                                  first: 40
                                  entries: 128
                                  scheme: GPT
                                  Providers:
                                  1. Name: ada0p1
                                     Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                                     Sectorsize: 512
                                     Stripesize: 0
                                     Stripeoffset: 20480
                                     Mode: r1w1e2
                                     efimedia: HD(1,GPT,[uuid1],0x28,0x82000)
                                     rawuuid: [uuid1]
                                     rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                     label: efiboot0
                                     length: 272629760
                                     offset: 20480
                                     type: efi
                                     index: 1
                                     end: 532519
                                     start: 40
                                  2. Name: ada0p2
                                     Mediasize: 127761645568 (119G)
                                     Sectorsize: 512
                                     Stripesize: 0
                                     Stripeoffset: 273678336
                                     Mode: r1w1e1
                                     efimedia: HD(2,GPT,[uuid2],0x82800,0xedf9800)
                                     rawuuid: [uuid2]
                                     rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                     label: zfs0
                                     length: 127761645568
                                     offset: 273678336
                                     type: freebsd-zfs
                                     index: 2
                                     end: 250068991
                                     start: 534528
                                  Consumers:
                                  1. Name: ada0
                                     Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                                     Sectorsize: 512
                                     Mode: r2w2e5
                                  
                                  
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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Ah, OK. It doesn't expose the boot partition via GEOM. That's why the script shows it can't find it.

                                    OK lets see what we can do here....

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