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    "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
      last edited by

      @Stepinsky Oh sorry I guess I clicked on the wrong link above, on my phone. Not sure what happened there as I copy/pasted.

      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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        Finger79 @jimp
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        @jimp said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

        The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

        One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

        The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

        You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

        Just one disk, an SSD. This is a simple baremetal install. Pretty sure it's GPT and EFI. Secure boot is disabled until FreeBSD supports it or pfSense rebases off Linux.

        Only thing I can think of is I'm using GELI for FDE, but I don't believe it was a problem upgrading from 2.6.x to 2.7.0 and then to 2.7.1 and 2.7.2.

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

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            Finger79 @stephenw10
            last edited by

            @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

            That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

            How do I fix this without a full reinstall?

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              If you try running install-boot manually what error is returned?

              [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@cedev-2.stevew.lan]/root: install-boot 
              System Configuration
              
              Architecture: amd64
              Boot Devices: /dev/ada0
                            /dev/ada1
               Boot Method: uefi
                Filesystem: zfs
                  Platform: QEMU Guest
              
              Proced with updating boot code? [y/N]: y
              
              Updating boot code...
              
              /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada1
              gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada1
              partcode written to ada1p2
              bootcode written to ada1
              ESP /dev/ada1p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.7soQsf
              263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
              263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
              Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
              Creating UEFI boot entry for FreeBSD
              Marking UEFI boot entry 0008 active
              Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
              Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
              Finished updating ESP
              
              /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada0
              gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada0
              partcode written to ada0p2
              bootcode written to ada0
              ESP /dev/ada0p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.MURwDh
              263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
              263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
              Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
              Existing UEFI FreeBSD boot entry found: not creating a new one
              Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
              Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
              Finished updating ESP
              
              Done.
              
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                Finger79 @stephenw10
                last edited by Finger79

                @stephenw10

                System Configuration
                
                Architecture: amd64
                Boot Devices: Unable
                              to
                              locate
                              boot
                              devices
                 Boot Method: uefi
                  Filesystem: zfs
                    Platform: unknown hardware
                
                

                I said "no" when asked to proceed, since I'm not prepared for downtime in case it fails. This is currently my only production router/firewall.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                  How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                  The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

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                    Finger79 @stephenw10
                    last edited by Finger79

                    @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                    Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                    How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                    The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

                    [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/dev: ls -l
                    total 3
                    crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x2f Jun 15 00:18 acpi
                    crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x73 Jun 15 00:18 ada0
                    crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x74 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p1
                    crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x75 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2
                    crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x78 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2.eli
                    crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x31 Jun 15 00:18 apm
                    crw-rw----  1 root operator 0x30 Jun 15 00:18 apmctl
                    crw-------  1 root wheel    0x39 Jun 15 00:18 atkbd0
                    
                    

                    (That's obviously a partial output of ls-l. There's a couple more pages, but that's all for ada*)

                    pfSense Disks.JPG

                    Do either of these help answer your question?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yes, that the disks still appear as adaX but one partition is different. What does gpart list show?

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                        Finger79 @stephenw10
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                        [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/root: gpart list
                        Geom name: ada0
                        modified: false
                        state: OK
                        fwheads: 16
                        fwsectors: 63
                        last: 250069639
                        first: 40
                        entries: 128
                        scheme: GPT
                        Providers:
                        1. Name: ada0p1
                           Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                           Sectorsize: 512
                           Stripesize: 0
                           Stripeoffset: 20480
                           Mode: r1w1e2
                           efimedia: HD(1,GPT,[uuid1],0x28,0x82000)
                           rawuuid: [uuid1]
                           rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                           label: efiboot0
                           length: 272629760
                           offset: 20480
                           type: efi
                           index: 1
                           end: 532519
                           start: 40
                        2. Name: ada0p2
                           Mediasize: 127761645568 (119G)
                           Sectorsize: 512
                           Stripesize: 0
                           Stripeoffset: 273678336
                           Mode: r1w1e1
                           efimedia: HD(2,GPT,[uuid2],0x82800,0xedf9800)
                           rawuuid: [uuid2]
                           rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                           label: zfs0
                           length: 127761645568
                           offset: 273678336
                           type: freebsd-zfs
                           index: 2
                           end: 250068991
                           start: 534528
                        Consumers:
                        1. Name: ada0
                           Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                           Sectorsize: 512
                           Mode: r2w2e5
                        
                        
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ah, OK. It doesn't expose the boot partition via GEOM. That's why the script shows it can't find it.

                          OK lets see what we can do here....

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