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    "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0

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    • jimpJ
      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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      The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

      One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

      The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

      You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

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        Stepinsky @SteveITS
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        @SteveITS Your link is not valid anymore. It gives me a 404.

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
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          @Stepinsky it works for me? Maybe they were regenerating the docs or something.

          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
          Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/netinstaller.html

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
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              @Stepinsky Oh sorry I guess I clicked on the wrong link above, on my phone. Not sure what happened there as I copy/pasted.

              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
              Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                Finger79 @jimp
                last edited by

                @jimp said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

                One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

                The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

                You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

                Just one disk, an SSD. This is a simple baremetal install. Pretty sure it's GPT and EFI. Secure boot is disabled until FreeBSD supports it or pfSense rebases off Linux.

                Only thing I can think of is I'm using GELI for FDE, but I don't believe it was a problem upgrading from 2.6.x to 2.7.0 and then to 2.7.1 and 2.7.2.

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

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                    Finger79 @stephenw10
                    last edited by

                    @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                    That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

                    How do I fix this without a full reinstall?

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      If you try running install-boot manually what error is returned?

                      [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@cedev-2.stevew.lan]/root: install-boot 
                      System Configuration
                      
                      Architecture: amd64
                      Boot Devices: /dev/ada0
                                    /dev/ada1
                       Boot Method: uefi
                        Filesystem: zfs
                          Platform: QEMU Guest
                      
                      Proced with updating boot code? [y/N]: y
                      
                      Updating boot code...
                      
                      /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada1
                      gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada1
                      partcode written to ada1p2
                      bootcode written to ada1
                      ESP /dev/ada1p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.7soQsf
                      263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                      263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                      Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                      Creating UEFI boot entry for FreeBSD
                      Marking UEFI boot entry 0008 active
                      Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                      Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                      Finished updating ESP
                      
                      /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada0
                      gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada0
                      partcode written to ada0p2
                      bootcode written to ada0
                      ESP /dev/ada0p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.MURwDh
                      263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                      263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                      Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                      Existing UEFI FreeBSD boot entry found: not creating a new one
                      Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                      Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                      Finished updating ESP
                      
                      Done.
                      
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                        Finger79 @stephenw10
                        last edited by Finger79

                        @stephenw10

                        System Configuration
                        
                        Architecture: amd64
                        Boot Devices: Unable
                                      to
                                      locate
                                      boot
                                      devices
                         Boot Method: uefi
                          Filesystem: zfs
                            Platform: unknown hardware
                        
                        

                        I said "no" when asked to proceed, since I'm not prepared for downtime in case it fails. This is currently my only production router/firewall.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                          How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                          The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

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                            Finger79 @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                            Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                            How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                            The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

                            [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/dev: ls -l
                            total 3
                            crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x2f Jun 15 00:18 acpi
                            crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x73 Jun 15 00:18 ada0
                            crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x74 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p1
                            crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x75 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2
                            crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x78 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2.eli
                            crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x31 Jun 15 00:18 apm
                            crw-rw----  1 root operator 0x30 Jun 15 00:18 apmctl
                            crw-------  1 root wheel    0x39 Jun 15 00:18 atkbd0
                            
                            

                            (That's obviously a partial output of ls-l. There's a couple more pages, but that's all for ada*)

                            pfSense Disks.JPG

                            Do either of these help answer your question?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              Yes, that the disks still appear as adaX but one partition is different. What does gpart list show?

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                                Finger79 @stephenw10
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                                [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/root: gpart list
                                Geom name: ada0
                                modified: false
                                state: OK
                                fwheads: 16
                                fwsectors: 63
                                last: 250069639
                                first: 40
                                entries: 128
                                scheme: GPT
                                Providers:
                                1. Name: ada0p1
                                   Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                                   Sectorsize: 512
                                   Stripesize: 0
                                   Stripeoffset: 20480
                                   Mode: r1w1e2
                                   efimedia: HD(1,GPT,[uuid1],0x28,0x82000)
                                   rawuuid: [uuid1]
                                   rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                   label: efiboot0
                                   length: 272629760
                                   offset: 20480
                                   type: efi
                                   index: 1
                                   end: 532519
                                   start: 40
                                2. Name: ada0p2
                                   Mediasize: 127761645568 (119G)
                                   Sectorsize: 512
                                   Stripesize: 0
                                   Stripeoffset: 273678336
                                   Mode: r1w1e1
                                   efimedia: HD(2,GPT,[uuid2],0x82800,0xedf9800)
                                   rawuuid: [uuid2]
                                   rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                   label: zfs0
                                   length: 127761645568
                                   offset: 273678336
                                   type: freebsd-zfs
                                   index: 2
                                   end: 250068991
                                   start: 534528
                                Consumers:
                                1. Name: ada0
                                   Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                                   Sectorsize: 512
                                   Mode: r2w2e5
                                
                                
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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  Ah, OK. It doesn't expose the boot partition via GEOM. That's why the script shows it can't find it.

                                  OK lets see what we can do here....

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