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    "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0

    Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Problems Installing or Upgrading pfSense Software
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      Stepinsky @SteveITS
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      @SteveITS Your link is not valid anymore. It gives me a 404.

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        SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
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        @Stepinsky it works for me? Maybe they were regenerating the docs or something.

        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
        Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/install/netinstaller.html

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @Stepinsky
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            @Stepinsky Oh sorry I guess I clicked on the wrong link above, on my phone. Not sure what happened there as I copy/pasted.

            Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
            Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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              Finger79 @jimp
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              @jimp said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

              The upgrade process tries to update the boot loader but there are some edge cases where it can't do so properly/fully.

              One thing to check is if you have multiple disks in the system. If there are multiple disks and pfSense is installed on both of them it could be using the boot loader from one disk but the kernel from a different disk.

              The fix in that case is to wipe the old/unused disk and/or make sure the EFI/BIOS is booting from the correct disk.

              https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/troubleshooting/multiple-disks.html

              You can manually update the loader as well but doing so varies based on your install specifics. For example if it's GPT or MBR, BIOS or EFI, if it has an older or newer style EFI partition, and more.

              Just one disk, an SSD. This is a simple baremetal install. Pretty sure it's GPT and EFI. Secure boot is disabled until FreeBSD supports it or pfSense rebases off Linux.

              Only thing I can think of is I'm using GELI for FDE, but I don't believe it was a problem upgrading from 2.6.x to 2.7.0 and then to 2.7.1 and 2.7.2.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

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                  Finger79 @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                  That's almost certainly it. The code to update the bootloader is new, it wouldn't have run at previous updates.

                  How do I fix this without a full reinstall?

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    If you try running install-boot manually what error is returned?

                    [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@cedev-2.stevew.lan]/root: install-boot 
                    System Configuration
                    
                    Architecture: amd64
                    Boot Devices: /dev/ada0
                                  /dev/ada1
                     Boot Method: uefi
                      Filesystem: zfs
                        Platform: QEMU Guest
                    
                    Proced with updating boot code? [y/N]: y
                    
                    Updating boot code...
                    
                    /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada1
                    gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada1
                    partcode written to ada1p2
                    bootcode written to ada1
                    ESP /dev/ada1p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.7soQsf
                    263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                    263440KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                    Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                    Creating UEFI boot entry for FreeBSD
                    Marking UEFI boot entry 0008 active
                    Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                    Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                    Finished updating ESP
                    
                    /usr/local/sbin/../libexec/install-boot.sh -b auto -f zfs -s gpt -u ada0
                    gpart bootcode -b /boot/pmbr -p /boot/gptzfsboot -i 2 ada0
                    partcode written to ada0p2
                    bootcode written to ada0
                    ESP /dev/ada0p1 mounted on /tmp/stand-test.MURwDh
                    263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old bootx64.efi file /efi/boot/bootx64.efi /efi/boot/bootx64-old.efi
                    263472KB space remaining on ESP: renaming old loader.efi file /etc/freebsd/loader.efi /etc/freebsd/loader-old.efi
                    Copying loader.efi to /EFI/freebsd on ESP
                    Existing UEFI FreeBSD boot entry found: not creating a new one
                    Copying bootx64.efi to /efi/boot on ESP
                    Unmounting and cleaning up temporary mount point
                    Finished updating ESP
                    
                    Done.
                    
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                      Finger79 @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10

                      System Configuration
                      
                      Architecture: amd64
                      Boot Devices: Unable
                                    to
                                    locate
                                    boot
                                    devices
                       Boot Method: uefi
                        Filesystem: zfs
                          Platform: unknown hardware
                      
                      

                      I said "no" when asked to proceed, since I'm not prepared for downtime in case it fails. This is currently my only production router/firewall.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                        How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                        The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

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                          Finger79 @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10 said in "Boot loader is too old. Please upgrade" in console after upgrading to 2.8.0:

                          Ok interesting, It can't do anything if it doesn't see the boot device anyway.

                          How does the encrypted boot disk appear in /dev or in the boot logs?

                          The correct fix here would be to fix the bootloader updater so it knows about encrypted drives. We'll have to look into how difficult that might be.

                          [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/dev: ls -l
                          total 3
                          crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x2f Jun 15 00:18 acpi
                          crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x73 Jun 15 00:18 ada0
                          crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x74 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p1
                          crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x75 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2
                          crw-r-----  1 root operator 0x78 Jun 15 00:18 ada0p2.eli
                          crw-rw-r--  1 root operator 0x31 Jun 15 00:18 apm
                          crw-rw----  1 root operator 0x30 Jun 15 00:18 apmctl
                          crw-------  1 root wheel    0x39 Jun 15 00:18 atkbd0
                          
                          

                          (That's obviously a partial output of ls-l. There's a couple more pages, but that's all for ada*)

                          pfSense Disks.JPG

                          Do either of these help answer your question?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Yes, that the disks still appear as adaX but one partition is different. What does gpart list show?

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                              Finger79 @stephenw10
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                              [2.8.0-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.home.internal]/root: gpart list
                              Geom name: ada0
                              modified: false
                              state: OK
                              fwheads: 16
                              fwsectors: 63
                              last: 250069639
                              first: 40
                              entries: 128
                              scheme: GPT
                              Providers:
                              1. Name: ada0p1
                                 Mediasize: 272629760 (260M)
                                 Sectorsize: 512
                                 Stripesize: 0
                                 Stripeoffset: 20480
                                 Mode: r1w1e2
                                 efimedia: HD(1,GPT,[uuid1],0x28,0x82000)
                                 rawuuid: [uuid1]
                                 rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                 label: efiboot0
                                 length: 272629760
                                 offset: 20480
                                 type: efi
                                 index: 1
                                 end: 532519
                                 start: 40
                              2. Name: ada0p2
                                 Mediasize: 127761645568 (119G)
                                 Sectorsize: 512
                                 Stripesize: 0
                                 Stripeoffset: 273678336
                                 Mode: r1w1e1
                                 efimedia: HD(2,GPT,[uuid2],0x82800,0xedf9800)
                                 rawuuid: [uuid2]
                                 rawtype: [is this sensitive?]
                                 label: zfs0
                                 length: 127761645568
                                 offset: 273678336
                                 type: freebsd-zfs
                                 index: 2
                                 end: 250068991
                                 start: 534528
                              Consumers:
                              1. Name: ada0
                                 Mediasize: 128035676160 (119G)
                                 Sectorsize: 512
                                 Mode: r2w2e5
                              
                              
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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                Ah, OK. It doesn't expose the boot partition via GEOM. That's why the script shows it can't find it.

                                OK lets see what we can do here....

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