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      tirsojrp
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      Does anyone know the price?

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        xbipin
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        it should be in the $125 to $150 range

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          senser
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          Looks like it fits into the old enclosures (the alix.2 ones).

          We use the mighty pf, we cannot be fooled.

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            torontob
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            I think that's a little bit steep. Maybe same price to replace old board would be a better choice. If units are installed on clients site and used for minor traffic then old units do just fine.

            If plan is to not sell many of this (which I don't see why) then yeah higher price would be better. However, it's probably now cheaper to make the newer model than it is to make the older model.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              If true the ability to fit old enclosures is great. That's going to help system builders and people upgrading significantly.  :)

              Steve

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              • dotdashD
                dotdash
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                @torontob:

                I think that's a little bit steep. Maybe same price to replace old board would be a better choice. If units are installed on clients site and used for minor traffic then old units do just fine.

                If plan is to not sell many of this (which I don't see why) then yeah higher price would be better. However, it's probably now cheaper to make the newer model than it is to make the older model.

                Um, $125-150 is pretty close to the street price of current Alix boards. And this has GB nics. Right now if you want to get a low power box with gig ports you need to get something like a 6501, which is twice the price. I predict they will sell well. Even if they come in at $175, I'd take one over a 2D13 every time.

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                  bennyc
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                  I also share the opinion (to each his own of course) that a sub 200 price isn't exaggerated, given the GB nics, better cpu, more RAM and possibility to install a HD so a full install should be feasible while remaining low-power (wonder though how all that will fit in the enclosure).
                  If it lives up to the expectations, I expect they will sell easily as it will be an affordable board in a segment where there is little competition…

                  So eagerly waiting for the release here...  ;)

                  4x XG-7100 (2xHA), 1x SG-4860, 1x SG-2100
                  1x PC Engines APU2C4, 1x PC Engines APU1C4

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                    torontob
                    last edited by

                    Fair enough for a better model and I would pay for it as I know it's still cheaper than other systems but maybe keep a simpler version still in the market - or even lower the price of the older models  8) - I would order many. It's just that an office of 3-5 people don't need anything better.

                    Some questions:
                    1- Would SD Cards be a better option in terms of stability or performance? or is it about price advantage?
                    2- The MILLION DOLLAR question: Is this still in development or should we expect this month? :P

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                      doktornotor Banned
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                      @torontob:

                      2- The MILLION DOLLAR question: Is this still in development or should we expect this month? :P

                      The web page states:

                      Status: Prototypes alive and well. Pilot run / customer samples planned for fall 2013. Production expected for early 2014.

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                        kejianshi
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                        Things arrive quicker when you don't wait for them.

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                        • valnarV
                          valnar
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                          Googling "Realtek RTL8111E" doesn't give me any warm fuzzy feelings.  I wish they went with something else.  A chain is only as strong as it's weakest link.  I don't mind if some of my workstations have Realtek NIC's, but I want my router/firewall to have the best.

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                          • GruensFroeschliG
                            GruensFroeschli
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                            You still have the two miniPCIe slots.
                            There you can put something like: http://www.spectra.ch/produkte/130224/web/spectra/Datasheet-MEC-ETH-101.pdf

                            We do what we must, because we can.

                            Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                              senser
                              last edited by

                              Hmm, about warm fuzzy feelings. What does that actually translate to in relation to network interfaces?

                              edit: Please no "intel" answer. I am interested in nasty technical details.

                              We use the mighty pf, we cannot be fooled.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                The newer Realtek NICs aren't all that bad. Mostly their throughput isn't quite as advertised and they require more CPU cycles to push packets.

                                Steve

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                                  ayah
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                                  @dotdash:

                                  @torontob:

                                  I think that's a little bit steep. Maybe same price to replace old board would be a better choice. If units are installed on clients site and used for minor traffic then old units do just fine.

                                  If plan is to not sell many of this (which I don't see why) then yeah higher price would be better. However, it's probably now cheaper to make the newer model than it is to make the older model.

                                  Um, $125-150 is pretty close to the street price of current Alix boards. And this has GB nics. Right now if you want to get a low power box with gig ports you need to get something like a 6501, which is twice the price. I predict they will sell well. Even if they come in at $175, I'd take one over a 2D13 every time.

                                  At the ~175$ range, in Canada, you can grab a Giada N70E-DR with a Celeron 1037U with 2 82574s in a mini-itx format.. With ram, it'll cost a touch more but still, IVB vs bobcat/atom and it'd crush a 6501 into little bits for less cost.

                                  After seeing the specs, I'm not really a big fan, but their component placement seems pretty great but it'll live or die depending on heatsinking performance to the case.

                                  However, the "Roadmap: We will upgrade to the newer AMD Kabini / Jaguar core based SOCs, up to 2 GHz quad core (Opteron X1150), up to 4 GB ECC DRAM" is dangling a carrot in front of me and would probably be closer to my dream alix. Hoping they avoid Realtek, but not counting on it..

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                                    ruio
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                                    Hi!
                                    At the EuroBSDcon in Malta we had a paper with the specifications of the new alix platform!

                                    http://i.imgur.com/712EXOx.jpg

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                                      kdk
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                                      hi, will  pfsene 2.1 support these APU/chipsets ?????

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                                      • GruensFroeschliG
                                        GruensFroeschli
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                                        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMD_Accelerated_Processing_Unit
                                        Since it‘s x86: yes

                                        We do what we must, because we can.

                                        Asking questions the smart way: http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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                                          bufdaemon
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                                          can i install pfsense 64 bit here? and FreeBSD 9.2?

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            The Bobcat core CPU is 64bit capable and I see no reason why you couldn't install FreeBSD 9.2 if you wanted to. It wouldn't be pfSense though.
                                            Perhaps you've asked the wrong question here?  ;)

                                            Steve

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