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      heper
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      it'll probably depend on the type of VPN.

      -if you wish to accomplish this with openvpn then you $1k budget might be on the low-end if you wish this to be in a 19" appliance type of device. (openvpn needs lots of cpu power or hardware crypto card = i5/i7/xeonE5 ish)

      -recently there have been huge performance gains when using IPSEC by enabling AES-NI (freebsd & pfsense & netgate worked together to get this working in 2.2 … )
      http://store.pfsense.org/c2758/  <– high-end model that should probably do more then 300mbit ipsec with AES-NI (ask for confirmation at pfsense-devs )

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        I'm surprised you're seeing 120Mbps from an older Atom.
        Jim posted some numbers for an IPSec tunnel between an FW-7551 and a C2758:
        https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=81862.msg471933#msg471933

        Steve

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          bhawk6901
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          @stephenw10:

          I'm surprised you're seeing 120Mbps from an older Atom.
          Jim posted some numbers for an IPSec tunnel between an FW-7551 and a C2758:
          https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=81862.msg471933#msg471933

          Steve

          my bad, it was about 65 mbps
          @heper:

          it'll probably depend on the type of VPN.

          -if you wish to accomplish this with openvpn then you $1k budget might be on the low-end if you wish this to be in a 19" appliance type of device. (openvpn needs lots of cpu power or hardware crypto card = i5/i7/xeonE5 ish)

          -recently there have been huge performance gains when using IPSEC by enabling AES-NI (freebsd & pfsense & netgate worked together to get this working in 2.2 … )
          http://store.pfsense.org/c2758/  <– high-end model that should probably do more then 300mbit ipsec with AES-NI (ask for confirmation at pfsense-devs )

          How much will an i3/i5 setup cost approx?

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            That seems closer to what I'd expect.  ;)

            Is is just the VPN speed you're looking for?
            The FW-7551 and its successor are a lot less than $1000.
            http://store.pfsense.org/SG2440/

            Steve

            Edit: Rogue apostrophe

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              maturola
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              @bhawk6901:

              How much will an i3/i5 setup cost approx?

              your budget is fine, I would go this rout >>

              Get you something like this mobo

              SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O

              With an i3 or even a Xeon (E3-1220V3)

              and you will have nothing to worry about for 3 to 5 years.

              (Those 2 + Memories, rackmount case, Supply should get you right around your budget)

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                bhawk6901
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                @maturola:

                @bhawk6901:

                How much will an i3/i5 setup cost approx?

                your budget is fine, I would go this rout >>

                Get you something like this mobo

                SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O

                With an i3 or even a Xeon (E3-1220V3)

                and you will have nothing to worry about for 3 to 5 years.

                (Those 2 + Memories, rackmount case, Supply should get you right around your budget)

                Thanks for the suggestions :)
                Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

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                  maturola
                  last edited by

                  @bhawk6901:

                  Thanks for the suggestions :)
                  Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                  Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                  SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                  You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                  Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

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                    messerchmidt
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                    @maturola:

                    @bhawk6901:

                    Thanks for the suggestions :)
                    Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                    Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                    SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                    You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                    Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                    if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

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                      maturola
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                      @messerchmidt:

                      @maturola:

                      @bhawk6901:

                      Thanks for the suggestions :)
                      Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                      Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                      SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                      You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                      Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                      if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

                      Oh, maybe I misunderstood the OP, I thought the 1K budget was for the VPN server / File server host, not all the 8 offices. I thought the offices will be clients. 1K over those 8 offices would be $125 per office…? no way you will find anything for $125

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                        bhawk6901
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                        @messerchmidt:

                        @maturola:

                        @bhawk6901:

                        Thanks for the suggestions :)
                        Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                        Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                        SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                        You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                        Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                        if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

                        Thanks for the suggestions
                        That 3rd gen seems very good.
                        we have 1000$ per office budget.
                        Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

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                          maturola
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                          @bhawk6901:

                          Thanks for the suggestions
                          That 3rd gen seems very good.
                          we have 1000$ per office budget.
                          Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

                          Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

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                            bhawk6901
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                            @maturola:

                            @bhawk6901:

                            Thanks for the suggestions
                            That 3rd gen seems very good.
                            we have 1000$ per office budget.
                            Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

                            Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

                            Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

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                              maturola
                              last edited by

                              @bhawk6901:

                              Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

                              You said 1U… that's 1U

                              soekris casings re custom, not sure there is anything out there that would fit a ITX formfactor

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                                bhawk6901
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                                http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                                this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                                Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

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                                  foetus
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                                  Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                                  So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                                  Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                                  It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                                  I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                                  Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                                  Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                                  An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                                  Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                                  http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                                  Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                                  And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

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                                    mir
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                                    You will get more bang for the bug buying this one: http://www.xcase.co.uk/1u-rackmount-server-cases/x-case-itx-19-02-1u-rackmount-short-29-95-x-case.html

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                                      bhawk6901
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                                      @foetus:

                                      Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                                      So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                                      Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                                      It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                                      I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                                      Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                                      Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                                      An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                                      Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                                      http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                                      Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                                      And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

                                      Thanks a lot for your detailed reply
                                      I guess il go for 503L in the end :)
                                      ECC RAM is the only thing left i think so any suggestions fir that?

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                                        foetus
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                                        made an error !  enclosure is 505-203b : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/505/SC505-203.cfm
                                        front panel layout is totally different (and wrong..) with a 503.

                                        I often just use Kingston 1.35v ECC non buffered without any errors. But if you want to be sure 100% Supermicro has a supported memory list at the spec page of the motherbord.

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                                          bhawk6901
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                                          @maturola:

                                          @bhawk6901:

                                          Thanks for the suggestions :)
                                          Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                                          Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                                          SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                                          You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                                          Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                                          Can anyone please confirm  if (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O runs freebsd? Checked the os compatibility chart on supermicro site but cant seem to find freebsd for this specific model

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                                            edwardwong
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                                            @bhawk6901:

                                            http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                                            this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                                            Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

                                            4GB ram would be more than enough if you don't need anything other than VPN.

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