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      maturola
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      @bhawk6901:

      How much will an i3/i5 setup cost approx?

      your budget is fine, I would go this rout >>

      Get you something like this mobo

      SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O

      With an i3 or even a Xeon (E3-1220V3)

      and you will have nothing to worry about for 3 to 5 years.

      (Those 2 + Memories, rackmount case, Supply should get you right around your budget)

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        bhawk6901
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        @maturola:

        @bhawk6901:

        How much will an i3/i5 setup cost approx?

        your budget is fine, I would go this rout >>

        Get you something like this mobo

        SUPERMICRO MBD-X10SLM-F-O

        With an i3 or even a Xeon (E3-1220V3)

        and you will have nothing to worry about for 3 to 5 years.

        (Those 2 + Memories, rackmount case, Supply should get you right around your budget)

        Thanks for the suggestions :)
        Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
        Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

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          maturola
          last edited by

          @bhawk6901:

          Thanks for the suggestions :)
          Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
          Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

          SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

          You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

          Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

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            messerchmidt
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            @maturola:

            @bhawk6901:

            Thanks for the suggestions :)
            Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
            Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

            SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

            You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

            Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

            if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

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              maturola
              last edited by

              @messerchmidt:

              @maturola:

              @bhawk6901:

              Thanks for the suggestions :)
              Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
              Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

              SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

              You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

              Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

              if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

              Oh, maybe I misunderstood the OP, I thought the 1K budget was for the VPN server / File server host, not all the 8 offices. I thought the offices will be clients. 1K over those 8 offices would be $125 per office…? no way you will find anything for $125

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                bhawk6901
                last edited by

                @messerchmidt:

                @maturola:

                @bhawk6901:

                Thanks for the suggestions :)
                Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

                Thanks for the suggestions
                That 3rd gen seems very good.
                we have 1000$ per office budget.
                Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

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                  maturola
                  last edited by

                  @bhawk6901:

                  Thanks for the suggestions
                  That 3rd gen seems very good.
                  we have 1000$ per office budget.
                  Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

                  Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

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                    bhawk6901
                    last edited by

                    @maturola:

                    @bhawk6901:

                    Thanks for the suggestions
                    That 3rd gen seems very good.
                    we have 1000$ per office budget.
                    Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

                    Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

                    Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

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                      maturola
                      last edited by

                      @bhawk6901:

                      Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

                      You said 1U… that's 1U

                      soekris casings re custom, not sure there is anything out there that would fit a ITX formfactor

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                        bhawk6901
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                        http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                        this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                        Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

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                          foetus
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                          Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                          So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                          Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                          It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                          I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                          Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                          Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                          An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                          Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                          http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                          Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                          And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

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                            mir
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                            You will get more bang for the bug buying this one: http://www.xcase.co.uk/1u-rackmount-server-cases/x-case-itx-19-02-1u-rackmount-short-29-95-x-case.html

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                              bhawk6901
                              last edited by

                              @foetus:

                              Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                              So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                              Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                              It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                              I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                              Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                              Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                              An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                              Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                              http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                              Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                              And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

                              Thanks a lot for your detailed reply
                              I guess il go for 503L in the end :)
                              ECC RAM is the only thing left i think so any suggestions fir that?

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                                foetus
                                last edited by

                                made an error !  enclosure is 505-203b : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/505/SC505-203.cfm
                                front panel layout is totally different (and wrong..) with a 503.

                                I often just use Kingston 1.35v ECC non buffered without any errors. But if you want to be sure 100% Supermicro has a supported memory list at the spec page of the motherbord.

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                                  bhawk6901
                                  last edited by

                                  @maturola:

                                  @bhawk6901:

                                  Thanks for the suggestions :)
                                  Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                                  Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                                  SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                                  You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                                  Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                                  Can anyone please confirm  if (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O runs freebsd? Checked the os compatibility chart on supermicro site but cant seem to find freebsd for this specific model

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                                    edwardwong
                                    last edited by

                                    @bhawk6901:

                                    http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                                    this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                                    Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

                                    4GB ram would be more than enough if you don't need anything other than VPN.

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                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                      With an $8000 budget I'd get 1 (or 2) C2758s from pfSense or Netgate for the central site and RCC-VE 2440s for the satellites.  $4,443 (with 2 C2758s in HA) from Netgate, - half your budget - and it'll scream and will all have QuickAssist and AES-NI for future versions.  Plenty of budget to add things like 30GB mSATAs to the satellite routers, upgrade switches, etc.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        bhawk6901
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                                        @Derelict:

                                        With an $8000 budget I'd get 1 (or 2) C2758s from pfSense or Netgate for the central site and RCC-VE 2440s for the satellites.  $4,443 (with 2 C2758s in HA) from Netgate, - half your budget - and it'll scream and will all have QuickAssist and AES-NI for future versions.  Plenty of budget to add things like 30GB mSATAs to the satellite routers, upgrade switches, etc.

                                        Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

                                          No QuickAssist in the 3517 for one.  Tested and supported for precisely your stated purpose.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            bhawk6901
                                            last edited by

                                            @Derelict:

                                            Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

                                            No QuickAssist in the 3517 for one.  Tested and supported for precisely your stated purpose.

                                            I see
                                            so is it due to quick assist or more cores of the 2758 as compared to the 3517?

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