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      maturola
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      @bhawk6901:

      Thanks for the suggestions :)
      Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
      Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

      SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

      You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

      Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

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        messerchmidt
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        @maturola:

        @bhawk6901:

        Thanks for the suggestions :)
        Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
        Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

        SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

        You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

        Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

        if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

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          maturola
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          @messerchmidt:

          @maturola:

          @bhawk6901:

          Thanks for the suggestions :)
          Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
          Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

          SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

          You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

          Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

          if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

          Oh, maybe I misunderstood the OP, I thought the 1K budget was for the VPN server / File server host, not all the 8 offices. I thought the offices will be clients. 1K over those 8 offices would be $125 per office…? no way you will find anything for $125

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            bhawk6901
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            @messerchmidt:

            @maturola:

            @bhawk6901:

            Thanks for the suggestions :)
            Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
            Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

            SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

            You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

            Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

            if your total budget is 1000$, that is going to be difficult for 8 offices. if about 1000$ per office, than go with the above setup to be problem free. use ecc ram

            Thanks for the suggestions
            That 3rd gen seems very good.
            we have 1000$ per office budget.
            Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

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              maturola
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              @bhawk6901:

              Thanks for the suggestions
              That 3rd gen seems very good.
              we have 1000$ per office budget.
              Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

              Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

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                bhawk6901
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                @maturola:

                @bhawk6901:

                Thanks for the suggestions
                That 3rd gen seems very good.
                we have 1000$ per office budget.
                Last thing is to get  a small 1u casing. Any suggestions regarding that will be greatly appreciated

                Check out SUPERMICRO SuperChassis CSE-512L-200B

                Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

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                  maturola
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                  @bhawk6901:

                  Thanks but looking for something smaller like the soekris casings please

                  You said 1U… that's 1U

                  soekris casings re custom, not sure there is anything out there that would fit a ITX formfactor

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                    bhawk6901
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                    http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                    this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                    Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

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                      foetus
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                      Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                      So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                      Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                      It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                      I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                      Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                      Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                      An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                      Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                      http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                      Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                      And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

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                        mir
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                        You will get more bang for the bug buying this one: http://www.xcase.co.uk/1u-rackmount-server-cases/x-case-itx-19-02-1u-rackmount-short-29-95-x-case.html

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                          bhawk6901
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                          @foetus:

                          Supermicro has low depth cases for mini itx bundled with PSU's.

                          So if you are going that route I would not use a CSE-512L-200B a suggested above, but a CSE-503L-200B : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/503/SC503L-200.cfm
                          Remember you need a fan assembly, and HDD cage if you are not going to hotglue everything :). These things are also not super quiet. Especially if you use the official fan.

                          It has the depth of general non enterprise switches. And is 1U. I use them even in small 6U mini racks without issue.
                          I have no idea why you would want to use custom steel cases? The time you need to cut ports in them alone, if you factor in time/cost is ridiculous.
                          Akasa will some day have very nice passive cases. If they ever release them : http://www.akasa.com.tw/update.php?tpl=product/product.detail.tpl&no=181&type=Fanless%20Chassis&type_sub=Fanless%20Mini%20ITX&model=A-ITX17-M1B

                          Supermicro RMA support is twitchy. So prepare to stock 1 extra 'in case'. Seeing your budget, you should have enough left to buy a 9th setup as a spare.
                          An A1SRi 2758 / 8GB ECC / SSD / case should be well within 1k.

                          Of course, for your speed requirements. I see no reason why not go the official store route - and support your favorite Firewall Appliance?
                          http://store.pfsense.org/SG4860/

                          Has everything you could ever want. Smaller form factor if for some reason you want that. Lower power use, passive. 6 ports.
                          And currently will already do several hundred Mbps VPN tunnels with improvements on the way.

                          Thanks a lot for your detailed reply
                          I guess il go for 503L in the end :)
                          ECC RAM is the only thing left i think so any suggestions fir that?

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                            foetus
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                            made an error !  enclosure is 505-203b : http://www.supermicro.com/products/chassis/1U/505/SC505-203.cfm
                            front panel layout is totally different (and wrong..) with a 503.

                            I often just use Kingston 1.35v ECC non buffered without any errors. But if you want to be sure 100% Supermicro has a supported memory list at the spec page of the motherbord.

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                              bhawk6901
                              last edited by

                              @maturola:

                              @bhawk6901:

                              Thanks for the suggestions :)
                              Will try to go with xeon budget permitting
                              Main issue currently is finding a mini itx board having 4 NICs that can fit in the soekris casing or something similar of the size  (have to say its beautiful :P)

                              SUPERMICRO MBD-A1SRi-2758F-O is mini ITX with Quad Intel Ethernet, this one have a 8-Core Atom (C2758). Not sure if it will fix the case you refer to.

                              You can also find it with an i7 (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O)

                              Or you can add a Quad Intel Nic on PCIe slot to any of the mini ITX LGA1150 boards.

                              Can anyone please confirm  if (SUPERMICRO MBD-X9SPV-M4-3UE-O runs freebsd? Checked the os compatibility chart on supermicro site but cant seem to find freebsd for this specific model

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                                edwardwong
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                                @bhawk6901:

                                http://uk.farnell.com/schroff/20860-120/case-19-inches-1u-220mm-steel/dp/1455923
                                this is one that i found not sure if it would fit properly though
                                Secondly. would 4 GB ram suffice? And what brand should i go for

                                4GB ram would be more than enough if you don't need anything other than VPN.

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                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                  With an $8000 budget I'd get 1 (or 2) C2758s from pfSense or Netgate for the central site and RCC-VE 2440s for the satellites.  $4,443 (with 2 C2758s in HA) from Netgate, - half your budget - and it'll scream and will all have QuickAssist and AES-NI for future versions.  Plenty of budget to add things like 30GB mSATAs to the satellite routers, upgrade switches, etc.

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    bhawk6901
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                                    @Derelict:

                                    With an $8000 budget I'd get 1 (or 2) C2758s from pfSense or Netgate for the central site and RCC-VE 2440s for the satellites.  $4,443 (with 2 C2758s in HA) from Netgate, - half your budget - and it'll scream and will all have QuickAssist and AES-NI for future versions.  Plenty of budget to add things like 30GB mSATAs to the satellite routers, upgrade switches, etc.

                                    Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                      last edited by

                                      Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

                                      No QuickAssist in the 3517 for one.  Tested and supported for precisely your stated purpose.

                                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        bhawk6901
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                                        @Derelict:

                                        Cant see how a 2758 would be better than i7 3517  :-\

                                        No QuickAssist in the 3517 for one.  Tested and supported for precisely your stated purpose.

                                        I see
                                        so is it due to quick assist or more cores of the 2758 as compared to the 3517?

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          I lean more toward tested and supported than anything else when compared to rolling your own.  Don't get too wrapped around the axle about the hardware.  C2758s are already overkill for what your requirements dictate.  Having everything you buy support QuickAssist just gets you about as much future-proofing as you can get these days.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            Guest
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                                            Hello bhawk6901,

                                            if you can whait until Q5 of this year the new Soekris net6801 could be the follower because
                                            it comes in the same dimensions and is also quite silent to drive but it comes with an Intel
                                            C2758 with 8 Cores and 8 GB of RAM this should be the greatest one of them as I see it
                                            right and Intels AES-Ni will be availably also on board. Soekris net6801

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