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    Pfsense directly connected to fiber dsl (No modem)

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    • GertjanG
      Gertjan
      last edited by

      @samyboyz:

      Are backups done automatically?

      @heper:

      Restore a config from before you deleted the wan configuration… That's why they are there

      Check them out : Login to console access and use option 15.

      But normally, an ancient law applies : when applying major changes to a system, current settings are recorded first (by the operator)

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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      • pttP
        ptt Rebel Alliance
        last edited by

        @samyboyz:

        Finally got that working and hit the GUI, at this point i must have deleted the setup for WAN as i can no longer get the internet to work :(

        @samyboyz:

        Are backups done automatically?

        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Configuration_Backup_and_Restore

        https://doc.pfsense.org/index.php/Configuration_History

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          sjt
          last edited by

          I second what remlei said and check to see if a VLAN tag is required.

          Example, in UK we have to use VLAN 101 for Fibre Broadband when configuring PPPoE connections.

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            samyboyz
            last edited by

            The automatic backups are too recent thus i can rule out the possibility of restoring the setup.

            Yes a VLAN was setup, but since i'm new to pfsense i cannot figure out what i'm missing in order to bypass the modem just like the previous tech :(

            I've attached a picture for reference

            20170926_121104.jpg
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              samyboyz
              last edited by

              I'm so sorry for being persistent, just have not been able to find any documentation on this and need to finish setup by Saturday, if anyone would have input i'd be truly grateful :)

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              • GertjanG
                Gertjan
                last edited by

                Start detailing a max about your ISP and equipment, only then some one who reads your question could recognize the situation and answer.
                Of course, your ISP has all the answers (not about pfSense, but they know what network settings they use) ….

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  samyboyz
                  last edited by

                  They're with Bell in Canada, the VLAN is setup right with 35, it was working with that setting, just don't know if i need to assign the VLAN to wan Interface? And setup PPOE?

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                    samyboyz
                    last edited by

                    Any suggestions? :(

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by

                      If you need WAN tagged on VLAN 35 then, yes, you need to go to Interfaces > (assign) and change WAN from em0 to VLAN 35 on em0

                      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                        samyboyz
                        last edited by

                        I did that, then in PPPoe i setup the dsl credentials but would not work..

                        @Derelict:

                        If you need WAN tagged on VLAN 35 then, yes, you need to go to Interfaces > (assign) and change WAN from em0 to VLAN 35 on em0

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                          last edited by

                          Then you need to do what your ISP requires. Have you asked them? What did they say?

                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott
                            last edited by

                            This customer was connected directly via a network card Bell's fiber box without a DSL modem thus am not sure if i use PPPoe with customer's DSL credentials

                            That depends on what type of service they have.  I have seen customers that use a "modem" connected to the fibre terminal.  That modem is the same as used over ADSL, but connects via WAN port, instead of phone line.  The config info is in the modem, as with any ADSL customer.  I have also worked with customers that have their own IP addresses and they simply get an Ethernet connection over the fibre.  There may also be VLANs or MPLS involved.  Your best bet is to call Bell and find out what you're supposed to provide.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                              samyboyz
                              last edited by

                              Called Bell, they said they never heard of bypassing the modem…whereas that was the setup when i got there.. pfsense was connected through NIC / RJ45 to Cell Fibe Service..

                              There is a VLAN set to 35 , not sure if i still have to setup PPPoe? Bell is of no help :(

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott
                                last edited by

                                Called Bell, they said they never heard of bypassing the modem…

                                ????

                                Who at Bell were you talking to?  Does your customer have a contact rep who knows what they have?

                                As I have said, I have worked with both types of connection.  In the ones without a modem, the fibre is connected to a device called a "media converter", which can provide various functions and is in turn connected to a router.  I have worked mostly with a Ciena model, similar to this one. http://www.ciena.com/products/3916/

                                I have also worked with Nokia fibre terminals, which connect to the "modem" via Ethernet cable.  These modems can also be connected to a phone line for ADSL service.  In either configuration, they'd have the user PPPoE config.
                                https://business.bell.ca/support/small-business/internet/modems/hub-1000

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  If it was me I would put a managed switch between a router that works and the ISP, capture it, see what it's doing, then make pfSense do that.

                                  If that was outside my capabilities I would probably have to hire someone to come out and do it for me if the ISP was uncoop.

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott
                                    last edited by

                                    ^^^^
                                    This is why I suggested calling the customer's Bell rep, who should know what the customer has.  I mentioned 2 types of connection, with different configurations.  When calling Bell Canada, there are different numbers for each type.  One gets you a rep that handles residential and small business customers for ADSL type services.  There's another number for dedicated connections, such as where the media convert is used.  There should be a circuit number which the Bell rep can look up, to determine how to support it.

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      samyboyz
                                      last edited by

                                      I found a Backup file with Accurate Settings, problem is i no longer can log in from web gui :( IP is correct, i can ping the pfsense router but cannot login to webgui even with https..

                                      Is there a special port perhaps?

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                                      • GrimsonG
                                        Grimson Banned
                                        last edited by

                                        Open a shell and use:

                                        sockstat -l | grep nginx
                                        
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                                          samyboyz
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks for your reply, basically i found out that the previous tech had disabled GUI access, all i did was restore his "working" backup, reset password as i did not have it and reset LAN to whatever value we've always been using and it still doesn't work. I don't get it…makes no sense :(

                                          @Grimson:

                                          Open a shell and use:

                                          sockstat -l | grep nginx
                                          
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                                            samyboyz
                                            last edited by

                                            Alright, this is weird :(

                                            The pfsense router worked fine with no modem just connected directly to Bell's Fibe Service via rj45 until i solely unplugged it, i managed to get it to work with a modem at my house but not at my customer's with no modem..

                                            I purchased an RJ11 to RJ45 adapter as i only have an RJ11 input at my house and i need an RJ45 to test pfsense without a modem..would this work?

                                            Please see attachments for VLAN settings pertaining to bypassing the modem..does anything look off? Thx :)

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