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    • QinnQ
      Qinn @johnpoz
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      @johnpoz said in Seamless roaming:

      You need a piece of software for unifi because its a controller meant to manage multiple > But I do run min rssi.. .Have it currently set to -64 for 2.4 and -70 for 5.. Also output power of my AP is set to low for 5 and medium for 2.4.. More power is not always the solution for wifi ;)

      So in your case that means that when a node gets as low as -64 on 2.4 GHz it gets kicked off that AP and when there is no stronger signal from an AP available connection is lost, although it could have stay connected?

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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer @JKnott
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        @JKnott said in Seamless roaming:

        @chpalmer

        It would be nice if that controller software could run on pfSense. 😉

        There are some that have.. I have a copy of windows home server going here so thats what I do..

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        • JKnottJ
          JKnott @chpalmer
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          @chpalmer

          My main Linux system is always up, so I could run it there, but it would be nice to have it on some network gear. With Cisco, the software is installed in switches.

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
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          • QinnQ
            Qinn @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Which Unifi do you use and which would you advise, I need at least 4 vlan's per radio.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz

              @JKnott said in Seamless roaming:

              With Cisco, the software is installed in switches.

              No while some switches now can act as the controller.. Before you had to buy a piece of hardware, normally 2 of them.. And if they were not on... nothing worked. Current models are the 9800 WLC, but yeah they have gone with cloud and embedded and or virtual.. Same sort of thing with unifi, you can run the controller anywhere - or you can buy the cloud key to run it on.. Or if you get the new Dream Machine Pro it will run right on the router..

              The controller doesn't have to be running 24/7 - its just nice if it is.

              There are people that have installed it on their pfsense box - I would NOT recommend that at all.. If you were going to do it, then run pfsense as a vm, and run whatever else on that hardware as another vm..

              If I was going to buy today I would buy either the nanoHD or the flexHD... Or if you have budget the HD or the https://unifi-shd.ui.com/

              Currently running the UAP-AC-PRO, the lite and the LR.. the pro is in the hallaway, the LR is in the kitchen and the guestroom is the lite.

              Nano or the flex are the big sellers because of pricepoint and features.. They do have a new wifi 6 lite model out in beta you could try as well ;)

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              • JKnottJ
                JKnott @Qinn
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                @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                I need at least 4 vlan's per radio

                Do you mean 4 SSIDs?

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                • QinnQ
                  Qinn @JKnott
                  last edited by

                  @JKnott said in Seamless roaming:

                  @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                  I need at least 4 vlan's per radio

                  Do you mean 4 SSIDs?

                  Yes a least 4 SSID's and you have be able to give them a VLAN ID/TAG

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @Qinn
                    last edited by

                    @Qinn

                    That depends on the AP. My TP-Link only supports 4.

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                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    • QinnQ
                      Qinn @JKnott
                      last edited by Qinn

                      @JKnott I know, that's why I asked John if it's available with the Unifi ;)

                      @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                      @johnpoz Which Unifi do you use and which would you advise, I need at least 4 vlan's per radio.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        So with the unifi sure you can do 4 ssids.. If you turn off monitoring and they are wired uplinks you can do 8.. So if you wanted you could do 8 on 2.4 and 8 on 5.. For a total of 16.

                        Or just get real fancy and do dynamic assigned vlans and just run 1 or 2 ssid and assign your vlans dynamically based on auth or mac... Now your unlimited to how many vlans you can run through your AP.

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                        • QinnQ
                          Qinn @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz Thanks John, I am beginning to "shift over" to Unifi ;) I think I will kick of with 2 X AP AC Pro.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            Get the nanoHD vs the Pro.. Really!!! Or the flexHD... No reason to buy the pro at this time..

                            I show the PRO on amazon for like 133, and the nanoHD for like 157.. For 25 bucks your nuts if you don't get the HD model vs pro..

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                            • QinnQ
                              Qinn @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz said in Seamless roaming:

                              Get the nanoHD vs the Pro.. Really!!! Or the flexHD... No reason to buy the pro at this time..

                              I show the PRO on amazon for like 133, and the nanoHD for like 157.. For 25 bucks your nuts if you don't get the HD model vs pro..

                              Thanks for the advise John, I think a nanoHD 2 pack it will be :)

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @johnpoz
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                                @johnpoz

                                I just looked at the data sheet for that unit. I see they still support 802.11b. I wonder if anyone still uses that. I hope not, as it's a performance killer for the entire area. The local library stopped supporting it several years ago and I have my AP configured for N only, as every device I have is capable of N. It's a performance killer because every device that wants to use g or n has to go into b compatibility mode, where it sends a b frame to reserve time for the g or n frame. G only doesn't cause such a significant performance hit for n, as the n device just has to slow down the header, when there are g devices in the area.

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @Qinn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Qinn said in Seamless roaming:

                                  Thanks for the advise John, I think a nanoHD 2 pack it will be :)

                                  Do the 2 packs come with PoE adapters? According to that video, single units came with them, but not the 5 packs. If I'm not mistaken, those Ubiquity APs can only be used with their injectors or their PoE switches, as the APs run on 24V.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    I don't think they sell a 2 pack ;) But @JKnott is right when you buy the multi pack they normally do not come with the injectors... Some old AP did use passive 24v poe, and that could be problematic.. But the current devices should be poe/poe+ (also known as af and at) and be able to powered from any poe switch that supports the correct poe.

                                    New poe bt also coming out.

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                                    • chpalmerC
                                      chpalmer
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                                      Mine are using my POE panel on 48volts.

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                                      • QinnQ
                                        Qinn @johnpoz
                                        last edited by Qinn

                                        @johnpoz said in Seamless roaming:

                                        I don't think they sell a 2 pack ;) But @JKnott is right when you buy the multi pack they normally do not come with the injectors... Some old AP did use passive 24v poe, and that could be problematic.. But the current devices should be poe/poe+ (also known as af and at) and be able to powered from any poe switch that supports the correct poe.

                                        New poe bt also coming out.

                                        True the come in 1 or 3 pack, so I ordered 2 and will see if they can manage the space needed, it looks like they will arrive Tuesday, also ordered a 8 port managed switch that can handle 802.3af (PoE), 802.3at (PoE+), 802.3az.
                                        Thanks to all, maybe need some assistance from you guys configuring them ;)

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          Its the older AP that used the 24v passive stuff. If your curious you can look here
                                          https://help.ui.com/hc/en-us/articles/115000263008-UniFi-Supported-PoE-Protocols

                                          What switch did you get, a unifi one?

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                                          • QinnQ
                                            Qinn @johnpoz
                                            last edited by

                                            @johnpoz No a Netgear GS310TP-100EUS, would you suggest a unifi one, why and which one would you advise jhon?

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