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      saltandpepper @Veldkornet
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      @Veldkornet

      If you do the same setting as mentioned above, you get 1gbit

      The setting from this speedtest was behind my current router (double nat), and the 3 tweaks applied which were mentioned in the post from @dugeem
      tempsnip.png

      Sometimes my speedtests seems to lock to around 700mbit or 500mbit, but i start to belive that this is an issue of my unit.
      I also encountert a new behaviour. If I restart my APU2E4, im not able to access anything until i pull the cable from my wan port. Once the webinterface loaded, I can reconnect the wan and it works.
      The same happens when i change the settings for TSO or LRO. Once i hit save, the system doesnt react to anything. Once i pull the plug out of wan, the webinterface loads in one or two seconds.
      I start to belive that my hardware has an issue, I dont find any other explonation.

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        kinch @DaddyGo
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        @DaddyGo

        I've examined it and found the following:

        iperf3 LAB
        No matter if APU2/3/4 I get a throughput with single connection of 750-850Mbit/s (LAN 2 OPT)

        With 2 or more connections I get about 945Mbit/s.

        A Speedtest.net gives the value 934Mbit/s UP/DOWN

        I have tested the following BIOS versions:
        V4.9.0.2
        V4.11.0.2
        V4.12.0.1

        All the same.

        But what I noticed, tested on APU2 and APU3, that pfsense version 2.4.5 does not reach the same throughput as 2.4.4-p3.
        With Single Connection pfsense 2.4.5 reaches "only" about 400-500Mbit/s. With pfsense 2.4.5 I can only reach 940Mbps with 8 connections.

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          FLOK @VAMike
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          @VAMike
          Your message encouraged me to do research...
          And you were so damn right.
          My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
          It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

          I am so sorry to have wasted your time :-(

          2020-06-05 08_43_49-Ihr Speedtest für Glasfaser + DSL Internet – Deutsche Glasfaser.png

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            Veldkornet @kinch
            last edited by

            @kinch said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

            @DaddyGo

            I've examined it and found the following:

            iperf3 LAB
            No matter if APU2/3/4 I get a throughput with single connection of 750-850Mbit/s (LAN 2 OPT)

            With 2 or more connections I get about 945Mbit/s.

            A Speedtest.net gives the value 934Mbit/s UP/DOWN

            I have tested the following BIOS versions:
            V4.9.0.2
            V4.11.0.2
            V4.12.0.1

            All the same.

            But what I noticed, tested on APU2 and APU3, that pfsense version 2.4.5 does not reach the same throughput as 2.4.4-p3.
            With Single Connection pfsense 2.4.5 reaches "only" about 400-500Mbit/s. With pfsense 2.4.5 I can only reach 940Mbps with 8 connections.

            I also noted something weird with 2.4.5.

            My iPerf speeds were also much lower than normal. What I did to fix it was:

            • disabling hardware offload (check the check boxes)
            • save, no reboot (iPerf results the same)
            • re-enabling hardware offload (clear the check boxes)
            • save, no reboot (iPerf results back up to the expected levels)

            The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again.

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              DaddyGo @Veldkornet
              last edited by DaddyGo

              @Veldkornet

              • pity this to argue further.... (LRO / TSO / etc.)
                the forum is full of why you need to disable "offloading"

              if you use pfSense for routing, (*****not recommended!!! *****), but just think of IPS netmap
              ******https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-setup.html#Networking

              and @jimp https://forum.netgate.com/topic/42669/tso-and-lro-on-alix-boards

              netmap it will not start properly unless they are disabled

              all forum threads that belong here, it starts with this - disabling this features first -

              Cats bury it so they can't see it!
              (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                DaddyGo @kinch
                last edited by DaddyGo

                @kinch

                let's wait for this 2.4.5-p1 ☺
                but indeed we also experienced some difference, but not significant

                just a suggestion instead of speedtest_net, I prefer to use this nperf.com
                it uses a much more serious algorithm to saturate, ergo the measurement more accurate

                Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                  DaddyGo @Veldkornet
                  last edited by DaddyGo

                  @Veldkornet

                  "The only thing I did between having good iPerf results and slow ones was reboot the device. It's as if after a reboot, it forgot that hardware offload was enabled, and I just needed to set it again."

                  so, ☺

                  enabling / disabling these functions will in any case require a restart!
                  without it it makes no sense, thus, the test is not relevant either

                  if the function is still active after a restart, this must be disabled with this way

                  /boot/loader.conf.local

                  hw.bce.tso_enable=0 or 1
                  hw.bce.lro_enable=0 or 1 ......... etc.

                  edit: bce / igb / etc.

                  test method after reboot:

                  ifconfig igbX | grep CSUM

                  X= 1 ,2, 3, 4, or........

                  f4f2790c-3cd5-4045-b319-595bb24a721b-image.png

                  Cats bury it so they can't see it!
                  (You know what I mean if you have a cat)

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                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @FLOK
                    last edited by

                    @FLOK said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                    My computer's stuck on the switch of an IP phone.
                    It throttles traffic to 100Mbits.

                    Ha, I have done exactly that before. 😉

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                      FLOK @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10
                      the joke is, that the pc still shows gigabit, although the performance is not reached ☹

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                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ooo ouch. Yeah I didn't have that excuse. 🙄

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                          logan5247
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                          Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                          https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

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                            fireodo @logan5247
                            last edited by

                            @logan5247 said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                            Anyone running 2.4.5-p1 yet? Already on 2.4.5, so I don't think there would be much of a chance for something to go wrong...
                            https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-2-4-5-release-p1-now-available.html

                            Here running on 2.4.5_p1 - since yesterday and I cannot see any issue ...☺

                            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                            pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                            Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                              daemonix
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                              Do you run ntopng on apu2c4 without problems on 200-300mbit lines (20mbit ish upload)? (I run pfBlocker, openVPN client and an openVPN server... mo snort etc)

                              Is this too heavy on the CPU?

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                                Qinn @daemonix
                                last edited by Qinn

                                @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries works good.

                                Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                  fireodo @Qinn
                                  last edited by

                                  @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                  @daemonix I run Ntopng, no worries work good.

                                  Hmm, strange here - i uninstalled ntopng because every time I saved the settings I got a core dump (but ntopng has continued to work).

                                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                  pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                  Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                    Qinn @fireodo
                                    last edited by

                                    @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                                    Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                    Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                    Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                      fireodo @Qinn
                                      last edited by fireodo

                                      @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                      @fireodo In the past, Ntopng was slow, not to say very slow and I walked away from it, in the beginning of this year I tried it again and I was amazed how it progressed.

                                      I am speaking from the newest version (0.8.13_5) and its the "core dump" what make me uninstall it - not the speed.

                                      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                      pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                      Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                        Qinn @fireodo
                                        last edited by Qinn

                                        @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                        Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                        Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                        Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                                          fireodo @Qinn
                                          last edited by

                                          @Qinn said in PC Engines apu2 experiences:

                                          @fireodo I am running ntopng v0.8.13_5 runs like a charm, maybe it's the ram, although your 2Gb should be enough as when I stop the service, memory usage goes down a 10% here...

                                          Lucky you - it was running fine here too, (excluding the core dump on saving settings) - maybe there is something in my configuration that is conflicting with it when I'm saving the settings ...

                                          Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                                          SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                                          pfsense 2.8.0 CE
                                          Packages: Apcupsd, Cron, Iftop, Iperf, LCDproc, Nmap, pfBlockerNG, RRD_Summary, Shellcmd, Snort, Speedtest, System_Patches.

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                                            Qinn @fireodo
                                            last edited by Qinn

                                            @fireodo Just a guess as default Ntopng keeps settings, maybe, uncheck this and then remove the package, then reinstall, maybe vanilla works fine 😉

                                            Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                                            Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                                            Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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