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    SMTP notification uses default gateway instead of IPSEC

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    • chamilton_ccnC
      chamilton_ccn
      last edited by

      I realize this is an old thread, but I'm replying since it's one of the first results that appears when Googling this question. Here's all you should need.

      Let's assume you have the following configuration:

      • LAN: 10.0.10.0/24
      • WAN: <whatever>
      • IPSec: 172.16.30.0/24
      • Mail Server: 172.16.30.25

      Assuming your tunnel is functional and no firewall rules are explicitly blocking traffic between the LAN and IPSec, do the following:

      • Create a Gateway (System/Routing/Gateways)
        • Interface: LAN
        • Address Family: IPv4 (obviously, change this to IPv6 if you're doing this for an IPv6 network)
        • Name: LAN_GW
        • Gateway: 10.0.10.1 (... assuming this is the IP address of the LAN interface)
        • Description: LAN Gateway
      • Create a Static Route (System/Routing/Static Routes)
        • Destination Network: 172.16.30.25 (IP address of mail server)
        • Gateway: Select the previously created gateway from the dropdown list (LAN_GW - 10.0.10.1)
        • Description: Route to mail server via IPSec

      Proceed with configuring your notifications, using your internal mail server's IP address.

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Yup.

        https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/vpn/ipsec/accessing-firewall-services-over-ipsec-vpns.html

        Steve

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        • jimpJ
          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by

          Or use VTI IPsec and a regular route. Easy peasy.

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            Fabio Giacobbe @chamilton_ccn
            last edited by

            @chamilton_ccn

            Hi,

            I have the same problem, I tried your solution but it doesn't work.

            has anyone solved the problem?

            Thanks

            fabio

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              Fabio Giacobbe @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10

              these are our GW

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              SMTP is 172.16.43.254

              this is the static route

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              disabled because is not working.

              fabio

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                That route should be a subnet not an address. Use /32 there if you want a single IP.

                Can we see the IPSec Phase 2 config? Is it actually carrying that?

                Steve

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                  Fabio Giacobbe
                  last edited by

                  Hi Steve,

                  thanks a lot for your help.

                  I try to explain better:

                  The problem is on our PFsense Firewall installed on our China Plant; We don’t have a ipsec VPN tunnel, but we have a dedicated line for our Italy plant.

                  So the PFsense has a default gateway for the local traffic, and an Interface for the traffic to the IT LAN with a static route.

                  This is the logical schema:

                  b0763419-dc90-4b33-abfc-9f441140b668-image.png

                  These are the interfaces:

                  9729365a-4407-4a71-a1ef-237dca4ae535-image.png

                  gatewas

                  bc40af59-09e7-4a17-9299-b08a1ccc9278-image.png

                  static route to IT LAN

                  a3dcfdfd-3ddc-4326-be8c-36f5e033f384-image.png

                  everything is working well, but the SMTP notification NOT.

                  We have a SMTP gateway server on the IT LAN and we have to use it.

                  SMTP server: 172.16.43.254

                  If I try to ping from firewall it fails:

                  3237849d-9c1b-48f2-97b7-79827e70745f-image.png

                  but if I choose the interface the ping is OK:

                  b4944f15-e6d2-4e97-b752-8acf626e9bc1-image.png

                  the solution should be can choose from which interface to start the SMTP connection, but I don't know if it is possible.

                  If I activated the gateway as suggested:

                  c0ac702b-bbb5-4a33-a868-514e27062eb1-image.png

                  it don't works, this is the ping response:

                  3783b643-5d3e-409b-b34d-4e0bbaae17d8-image.png

                  also don't work ping from other hosts from LAN, but first yes.

                  thanks againg for your support.

                  fabio

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Ok, then you don't need the LAN gateway or the statis route. That only applies to policy based IPSec connections. Remove them.

                    With a direct routed connection as you have both smtp and ping traffic should use the system routing table to decide which gateway to use. The route you have to 172.16.40.0/22 should be sufficient, if it is in there correctly. Can we see the routing table from pfSense?

                    Steve

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                      Fabio Giacobbe @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 said in SMTP notification uses default gateway instead of IPSEC:

                      ufficient, if it is in there correctly. Can we see the routing table from

                      a9c9d6b7-b388-43a8-8bd1-a3e5d05bb603-image.png

                      fabio

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        Ok, that should work.

                        Maybe you have something that was already trying to connect and opened a state via the default gateway and it's still open.
                        Check the state table for any states to 172.16.43.254. Delete any ICMP or SMTP that are present.

                        Steve

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                          Fabio Giacobbe @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10

                          Hi Steve,

                          I understood: it was a NAT problem!

                          For BT interface the NAT from China LAN is disabled, but other network are not trasported to Italy!

                          Now I have defined this new NAT rule:

                          9d959c64-006a-4fe6-b9df-0441cc8e96d9-image.png

                          details:

                          860b8987-a223-4177-86d1-7f6385bb2f86-image.png

                          now the ping is working:

                          1f6c0883-5d74-4aca-8131-f7534029b659-image.png

                          and also the SMTP test is OK:

                          a3c2efa9-f2f6-4bd0-99ea-870dee6b57f3-image.png

                          many thanks for your time and help!

                          I'm sorry I didn't understand earlier that the problem was somewhere else and it was a NAT problem.

                          bye

                          fabio

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Ah, cool. 👍

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                            • chamilton_ccnC
                              chamilton_ccn @Fabio Giacobbe
                              last edited by

                              @Fabio-Giacobbe The scenario I posted was specific to IPSec. But don't feel bad, we've all been in similar NAT-induced (read: confusing) situations. Glad you got it figured out!

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