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      bldnightowl @stephenw10
      last edited by bldnightowl

      @stephenw10 I am running pfBlockerNG-devel 3.0.0_10. The alias/blocklists are whatever is OOTB, I didn't customize anything.

      By "lockup" I mean the LAN/WAN interfaces are completely unresponsive. Console access is fine.

      P.S. I cross posted to this thread to make sure that @BBcan177 (the developer of pfBlockerNG) is aware.

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        ffuentes @stephenw10
        last edited by ffuentes

        @stephenw10 pfBlockerNG net 2.1.4_24
        I do have several lists loading.
        My Max table Entry is: 4000000

        Another thing I notice is that vnstad keeps crashing:

        vnstatd 	Status Traffic Totals data collection daemon
        
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          mcury @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

          Are you running the dev version of pfBlocker?

          Does it 'lock up' as it's running the reload or once it's completed?

          How large are you aliases/blocklists?

          I have the non-dev package running and am not seeing that but only have limited dnsbl lists loaded.

          Steve

          Running the pfblockerng-devel 3.0.0_10, didn't customize anything, just ran the wizard, so it's a normal amount of aliases/blocklists.
          No, it doesn't 'lock up' as it's running the reload or once it's completed, it finishes the process, and it's triggered if I reboot in this phase:

          Syncing OpenVPN settings...done.
          Configuring firewall.Segmentation fault (core dumped) <<<
          Starting CRON... done.

          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Ah, OK so part way through the boot after loading the alises/lists?

            Can you give us an idea of the numbers? I have:

            
            ===[ Native List IP Counts ] ===================================
            
                8513 total
                7311 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Google.txt
                 968 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Spamhaus_drop.txt
                 181 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Facebook.txt
                  53 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Netflix.txt
            
            ===[ DNSBL Domain/IP Counts ] ===================================
            
               21346 total
               16998 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Easylist_Default.txt
                4342 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Easylist_Privacy.txt
                   6 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Custom_List_custom.txt
            

            Steve

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              mcury @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10 said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

              Ah, OK so part way through the boot after loading the alises/lists?

              Exactly.

              Packages installed: Acme, NUT, pfBlockerng-devel, aws-wizard, ipsec-profile-wizard.
              It doesn't seem to be a memory issue:

              91785800-5e00-484e-ace8-441ba1c34f78-image.png

              ===[ Deny List IP Counts ]===========================
              
                 22138 total
                 15000 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/CINS_army_v4.txt
                  4884 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/ET_Comp_v4.txt
                  1223 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/ET_Block_v4.txt
                   732 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Talos_BL_v4.txt
                   118 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Abuse_Feodo_C2_v4.txt
                    94 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Abuse_SSLBL_v4.txt
                    76 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Spamhaus_eDrop_v4.txt
                     8 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/ISC_Block_v4.txt
                     2 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Spamhaus_Drop_v4.txt
                     1 /var/db/pfblockerng/deny/Abuse_IPBL_v4.txt
              
              ====================[ Empty Lists w/127.1.7.7 ]==================
              
              Abuse_IPBL_v4.txt
              
              ===[ DNSBL Domain/IP Counts ] ===================================
              
                349821 total
                143310 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Maltrail_BD.txt
                122595 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/C19_CTC.txt
                 27951 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/SFS_Toxic_BD.txt
                 13486 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/SWC.txt
                 10871 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/EasyList.txt
                  8913 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Adaway.txt
                  6999 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Spam404.txt
                  6671 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/MVPS.txt
                  3031 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/EasyPrivacy.txt
                  2500 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/D_Me_ADs.txt
                  1986 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Krisk_C19.txt
                  1478 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Yoyo.txt
                    23 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/D_Me_Tracking.txt
                     6 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Juniper.txt
                     1 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/D_Me_Malv.txt
                     0 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/MDS_Immortal.fail
                     0 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/MDS.fail
                     0 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/MDL.txt
                     0 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/D_Me_Malw.txt
              
              ====================[ IPv4/6 Last Updated List Summary ]==============
              
              Feb 11	04:49	Spamhaus_eDrop_v4
              Feb 17	02:30	ET_Block_v4
              Feb 17	02:30	ET_Comp_v4
              Feb 18	03:33	Spamhaus_Drop_v4
              Feb 18	18:05	Talos_BL_v4
              Feb 18	18:18	CINS_army_v4
              Feb 18	18:39	ISC_Block_v4
              Feb 18	18:55	Abuse_Feodo_C2_v4
              Feb 18	18:55	Abuse_SSLBL_v4
              Feb 18	19:01	Abuse_IPBL_v4
              
              ====================[ DNSBL Last Updated List Summary ]==============
              
              Jul 31	2015	D_Me_Tracking
              Sep 5	2018	Juniper
              Jan 31	2020	D_Me_ADs
              Jul 10	2020	D_Me_Malw
              Jul 10	2020	D_Me_Malv
              Nov 12	19:17	MDL
              Dec 15	05:07	MVPS
              Feb 15	02:18	Adaway
              Feb 15	05:50	Yoyo
              Feb 16	05:48	SWC
              Feb 18	15:02	EasyPrivacy
              Feb 18	15:30	Krisk_C19
              Feb 18	17:50	C19_CTC
              Feb 18	18:50	EasyList
              Feb 18	19:00	SFS_Toxic_BD
              Feb 18	19:00	Maltrail_BD
              Feb 18	19:00	Spam404
              ===============================================================
              
              Database Sanity check [  PASSED  ]
              ------------------------
              Masterfile/Deny folder uniq check
              Deny folder/Masterfile uniq check
              
              Sync check (Pass=No IPs reported)
              ----------
              
              Alias table IP Counts
              -----------------------------
                 22138 /var/db/aliastables/pfB_PRI1_v4.txt
              
              pfSense Table Stats
              -------------------
              table-entries hard limit   400000
              Table Usage Count         22164
              
               UPDATE PROCESS ENDED [ 02/18/21 19:01:58 ]
              

              07416874-0142-4a3c-a50e-a4b192c16ab2-image.png

              dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                ffuentes @stephenw10
                last edited by

                @stephenw10 My SG-3100 locked up again with pfblocker disabled. no cron running.

                Unless the cron is running even though is been told to disable.
                You guys have a bigger issue here.

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                  ffuentes @mcury
                  last edited by

                  @mcury I don't think is a pfblocker issue TBH.
                  Mine keeps locking up even though is fully disabled, I am now going to uninstall it.

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                    mcury @ffuentes
                    last edited by mcury

                    @ffuentes Try to set the pfblocker cron settings to run once a day, instead of one hour to confirm if the problem will happen to you again.
                    Or completely remove the pfblockerng package. If it happens again even without the package installed (not only disabled). We will have a better understanding about it..

                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                      ffuentes @mcury
                      last edited by

                      @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

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                        mcury @ffuentes
                        last edited by

                        @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                        @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

                        Let's hope that we all here have the same problem, one fix is faster than two or more :)

                        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                          bldnightowl @mcury
                          last edited by

                          @mcury I also disabled and got a lockup again just now. This is bad news, folks. I don’t think it’s pfBlockerNG either.

                          How do I downgrade back to 2.4.5p1?

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                            mcury @bldnightowl
                            last edited by

                            @bldnightowl said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                            @mcury I also disabled and got a lockup again just now. This is bad news, folks. I don’t think it’s pfBlockerNG either.

                            How do I downgrade back to 2.4.5p1?

                            Try to remove pfblockerng package, just to make sure tick that setting to remove the configuration too, this option is inside pfblockerng.

                            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                              ptt Rebel Alliance @bldnightowl
                              last edited by

                              How do I downgrade back to 2.4.5p1?

                              Reinstall & restore Config Backup

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                                ffuentes @mcury
                                last edited by ffuentes

                                @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

                                Let's hope that we all here have the same problem, one fix is faster than two or more :)

                                Completely agree. I am trying to avoid going back to the previous version to try and help narrow this down.
                                But is really causing a lot of pain as it seems to be very consistent. (That's good news in a technical way)

                                I have a console up and running via USB to see if I can catch anything, but is a HARD lockup. You can't get any output at all.

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                                  mcury @ffuentes
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                                  @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                  @mcury said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                  @ffuentes said in 21.02 Sudden lockup:

                                  @mcury I just uninstalled it. Let see how far the rabbit holes go. :/

                                  Let's hope that we all here have the same problem, one fix is faster than two or more :)

                                  Completely agree. I am trying to avoid going back to the previous version to try and help narrow this down.
                                  But is really causing a lot of pain as it seems to be very consistent. (That's good news in a technical way)

                                  I have a console up and running via USB to see if I can catch anything, but is a HARD lockup. You can't get any output at all.

                                  Hm, the console also stops? You can't reboot it through the console?
                                  Did you upgrade from 2.4.5p1 or performed a clean 21.02 install?

                                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                    ffuentes @mcury
                                    last edited by ffuentes

                                    @mcury I did an upgrade. 2.4.5p1 -> 21.02.
                                    One hour later, instant lockup, and happily ever since (not... but you get the idea 😞 )

                                    Worth mentioning that after hours of troubleshooting I did do a factory default, and reconfigure everything. Still the same behavir.

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                                      Bulfinch @ffuentes
                                      last edited by Bulfinch

                                      @ffuentes I've been watching this thread all day. It seems the focus is turning to pfblockerNG, yet I have uninstalled all my packages. Removing PfblockerNG-devel did lengthen the time between lockups, it did not eliminate the problem.

                                      edit: I am rebooting via USB cable->putty->console

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                                        ffuentes @Bulfinch
                                        last edited by

                                        @bulfinch Thanks for this update.

                                        I suspect not a pfblocker issue, but something a bit deeper.

                                        When we get lockups like this, sometimes it hints a kernel issue.
                                        Maybe a wild process, but even then you get a ping response when the OS is running low on resources.

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                                          mcury @ffuentes
                                          last edited by mcury

                                          @ffuentes @Bulfinch I tried to upgrade from 2.4.5p1, got a lot of errors, so decided to perform a clean install and configure everything from scratch..
                                          I suggest you guys do the same, I lost a few hours yesterday reinstalling everything.. but I'm not getting this 'lockups'.
                                          The only thing I restored from my 2.4.5p1 backup was the aliases..

                                          I saved a screenshot from my update from 2.4.5p1 to 21.02 (this screen doesn't show all the errors, there were plenty more..

                                          de2b0859-a55c-4410-b4f6-38f4ab505acd-image.png

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                            bldnightowl @mcury
                                            last edited by

                                            @mcury For me, the console has never frozen. And I can still access the WAN from the console (pings, etc.) -- it's the LAN and the DNS Resolver that go down.

                                            I have fully removed pfBlockerNG and will give this one more shot before throwing in the towel. But if the root cause really is pfBlockerNG somehow, I hope that gets resolved very quickly -- it's very important to have that.

                                            How can I downgrade though to 2.4.5p1 though if I can't reach the internet because my pfSense is down? I did backup the configuration before I upgraded to 21.02, but that backup doesn't include the full pfSense software does it?

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