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      BBCModelB
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      I use a mini PC with 1xLAN and 1xWAN network ports as my Pfsense appliance at home

      I want to replace our 'traditional' landline based telephone with a VOIP phone and I don't have a dedicated port on my Pfsense appliance to plug the phone into

      Would it be wise to plug the VOIP phone into the LAN side of the Pfsense appliance?

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        NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
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        @bbcmodelb I do it with a Snom SIP phone for work, I have a separate VLAN for voice and the phone is the only device on the subnet.

        Get yourself a nice cheap Snom 710 off ebay and give it a go, it can all be set up from the phone itself if you have a SIP account & number defined.

        I still have my old traditional landline as I'm using ADSL.

        Andy

        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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          BBCModelB @NogBadTheBad
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          @nogbadthebad said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

          Snom 710

          so a VLAN is the way to handle it - ok, I'll look into it

          if you happen to be UK based, any recommendation for a service provider?

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            BBCModelB @BBCModelB
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            @bbcmodelb

            the provider I'm looking at recommend an adapter that allows you to plug in your existing phone - this is ideal as my existing phone is cordless

            http://www.grandstream.com/products/gateways-and-atas/analog-telephone-adaptors/product/ht801

            Grandstream HT801 adapter

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              NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
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              @bbcmodelb That adaptor plugs into a phone socket so it wouldn't even touch pfSense, it would still need plugging into the phone line.

              Andy

              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                dotdash @NogBadTheBad
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                @nogbadthebad
                It's got Ethernet and a POTS port. Ethernet goes to the LAN so it can send call via SIP over the Internet. The POTS port goes to a phone.

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                  NollipfSense @BBCModelB
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                  @bbcmodelb I recently set up a VOIP using FreePBX for my home office. Routing from LAN presents a problem with the firewall I found. So, I had to set up a DMZ; however, to do that, you'll need three ports and your mini PC only has two.

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                    bingo600
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                    I have used Linksys SPA2102 & SPA3102 ATA's wo. any problems , behind pfSense.

                    Just make sure your sip register frequency (or sip keepalive) is lower than the "Firewall state cleanup" , and depending on your device capability to set the "outside ip" , use a STUN server.

                    I changed recently to a Gigaset SIP phone , and had no problems with that one too.

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                      provels
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                      Just sayin', but I left VOIP at home about 10 years ago for Cell alone with a Link2Cell phone base station with 5 handsets to spread around the house. I can use my cell at home, but VOIP in the car is tough...

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                        JKnott @NollipfSense
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                        @nollipfsense said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                        you'll need three ports and your mini PC only has two

                        That's where VLANs and a managed switch come in handy.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                          BBCModelB @provels
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                          @provels said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                          Just sayin', but I left VOIP at home about 10 years ago for Cell alone with a Link2Cell phone base station with 5 handsets to spread around the house. I can use my cell at home, but VOIP in the car is tough...

                          cell phone coverage is unreliable where I am, so that's a no go

                          I've found a VOIP phone in the attic, a Polycom CX600, which should do the job. I'll set it up on a VLAN behind Pfsense as suggested and see how I get on

                          Thanks all for the comments

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                            JKnott @BBCModelB
                            last edited by

                            @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                            cell phone coverage is unreliable where I am, so that's a no go

                            Cell coverage is poor in my condo, but WiFi calling works well.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                              NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
                              last edited by NogBadTheBad

                              @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                              CX600

                              Think you might find it only supports Microsoft Lync, maybe that's the reason why it's in the Attic.

                              Andy

                              1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                BBCModelB @NogBadTheBad
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                                @nogbadthebad said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                CX600

                                Think you might find it only supports Microsoft Lync, maybe that's the reason why it's in the Attic.

                                😞 😞 😞 😞 😞

                                in that case, am I better off buying a proper VOIP phone or an adapter to plug into my existing phone(which will be redundant) - I'm thinking call clarity / features?

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                                  NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
                                  last edited by NogBadTheBad

                                  @bbcmodelb If you have network ports scattered about the house, you could move a VOIP phone wherever you wanted, the features would mostly be down to the VOIP provider.

                                  There are plenty of cheap ones on eBay.

                                  The Snom 710 I mentioned is all configureable via a web page once the phone gets an IP address.

                                  Andy

                                  1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600
                                    last edited by bingo600

                                    I'd go for either an ATA (Analog to VoIP) adapter , and reuse your existing phone.

                                    Ie.
                                    The linksys is a quite old design , but well proven
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Eboxer-Gateway-Protocol-Internet-Adapter/dp/B07KKD1HY3/

                                    I'd prob go for this one , the $4 more for an extra analog channel (2'nd phone). could come in handy.
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-GS-HT802-Analog-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B01JH7MYKA/

                                    Same func as the GS above , but only 1 analog port
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-HT801-Single-Port-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B06XW1BQHC/

                                    Or get a new DECT set w. VoIP capabilities.

                                    I can recommend Gigaset DECT VoIP phones.
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Gigaset-C530-Duo-Additional-Businesses/dp/B08M6CWBXX/

                                    https://www.amazon.com/Handsets-Affordable-Replacement-Nationwide-robocalls/dp/B085RV13ZP/

                                    I think you're UK based ... Just found out

                                    Too bad you're not in EU anymore.
                                    https://www.amazon.de/Gigaset-C430A-Telefon-Schnurlostelefon-Freisprechfunktion-Go-platin/dp/B00TG2BHBO/

                                    A Gigaset GO-Box 100 - They usually connect to most DECT/GAP handsets
                                    See reviews
                                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-GO-Box-100-black/dp/B087XN4YZ4/

                                    Handset for the Go Box
                                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-C430H-Additional-Cordless-Handset/dp/B00F5V2FJ8/

                                    Or dual (Just don't connect the Base) so you'll end up w. 1 charger
                                    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-Nuisance-Blocking-Cordless-Answering-black/dp/B00F07U4R2/

                                    Note:
                                    DECT phones from EU uses different freq , than US.
                                    Make sure your choice has US freq's EU freq's , aka. buy locally.

                                    Watch out for things like this one , (remember to get the DECT/VoIP base)
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP720-Dect-Cordless-Telephone/dp/B01GUFAZ9O/

                                    Base
                                    https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP750-DECT-Station-Black/dp/B01GUFAYPO/

                                    If you're happy with your existing analog , i'd prob try the ATA first.
                                    If you need more handsets scattered around the house , i'd go for a new DECT system w. VoIP capabilities.

                                    /Bingo

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                                      slimypizza
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                                      Have you thought of Ooma? I have a wireless phone system with the base hardwired to my LAN and all extensions cordless.

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                                        BBCModelB @bingo600
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                                        @bingo600

                                        great info, thanks

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                                          BBCModelB
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                                          thank you all so much for the great info - will check out all options mentioned

                                          👍

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                                            BBCModelB
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                                            @bingo600 said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                            Gigaset-C430A

                                            How is Skype doing these days? Does it have a poor reputation? The phone I found in the attic is designed for it. Its a Polycom CX600.

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