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    • dotdashD
      dotdash @NogBadTheBad
      last edited by

      @nogbadthebad
      It's got Ethernet and a POTS port. Ethernet goes to the LAN so it can send call via SIP over the Internet. The POTS port goes to a phone.

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      • NollipfSenseN
        NollipfSense @BBCModelB
        last edited by

        @bbcmodelb I recently set up a VOIP using FreePBX for my home office. Routing from LAN presents a problem with the firewall I found. So, I had to set up a DMZ; however, to do that, you'll need three ports and your mini PC only has two.

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        • bingo600B
          bingo600
          last edited by

          I have used Linksys SPA2102 & SPA3102 ATA's wo. any problems , behind pfSense.

          Just make sure your sip register frequency (or sip keepalive) is lower than the "Firewall state cleanup" , and depending on your device capability to set the "outside ip" , use a STUN server.

          I changed recently to a Gigaset SIP phone , and had no problems with that one too.

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          • provelsP
            provels
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            Just sayin', but I left VOIP at home about 10 years ago for Cell alone with a Link2Cell phone base station with 5 handsets to spread around the house. I can use my cell at home, but VOIP in the car is tough...

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @NollipfSense
              last edited by

              @nollipfsense said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

              you'll need three ports and your mini PC only has two

              That's where VLANs and a managed switch come in handy.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                BBCModelB @provels
                last edited by

                @provels said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                Just sayin', but I left VOIP at home about 10 years ago for Cell alone with a Link2Cell phone base station with 5 handsets to spread around the house. I can use my cell at home, but VOIP in the car is tough...

                cell phone coverage is unreliable where I am, so that's a no go

                I've found a VOIP phone in the attic, a Polycom CX600, which should do the job. I'll set it up on a VLAN behind Pfsense as suggested and see how I get on

                Thanks all for the comments

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @BBCModelB
                  last edited by

                  @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                  cell phone coverage is unreliable where I am, so that's a no go

                  Cell coverage is poor in my condo, but WiFi calling works well.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
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                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                  • NogBadTheBadN
                    NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
                    last edited by NogBadTheBad

                    @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                    CX600

                    Think you might find it only supports Microsoft Lync, maybe that's the reason why it's in the Attic.

                    Andy

                    1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                      BBCModelB @NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by

                      @nogbadthebad said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                      @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                      CX600

                      Think you might find it only supports Microsoft Lync, maybe that's the reason why it's in the Attic.

                      😞 😞 😞 😞 😞

                      in that case, am I better off buying a proper VOIP phone or an adapter to plug into my existing phone(which will be redundant) - I'm thinking call clarity / features?

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                      • NogBadTheBadN
                        NogBadTheBad @BBCModelB
                        last edited by NogBadTheBad

                        @bbcmodelb If you have network ports scattered about the house, you could move a VOIP phone wherever you wanted, the features would mostly be down to the VOIP provider.

                        There are plenty of cheap ones on eBay.

                        The Snom 710 I mentioned is all configureable via a web page once the phone gets an IP address.

                        Andy

                        1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                        • bingo600B
                          bingo600
                          last edited by bingo600

                          I'd go for either an ATA (Analog to VoIP) adapter , and reuse your existing phone.

                          Ie.
                          The linksys is a quite old design , but well proven
                          https://www.amazon.com/Eboxer-Gateway-Protocol-Internet-Adapter/dp/B07KKD1HY3/

                          I'd prob go for this one , the $4 more for an extra analog channel (2'nd phone). could come in handy.
                          https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-GS-HT802-Analog-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B01JH7MYKA/

                          Same func as the GS above , but only 1 analog port
                          https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-HT801-Single-Port-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B06XW1BQHC/

                          Or get a new DECT set w. VoIP capabilities.

                          I can recommend Gigaset DECT VoIP phones.
                          https://www.amazon.com/Gigaset-C530-Duo-Additional-Businesses/dp/B08M6CWBXX/

                          https://www.amazon.com/Handsets-Affordable-Replacement-Nationwide-robocalls/dp/B085RV13ZP/

                          I think you're UK based ... Just found out

                          Too bad you're not in EU anymore.
                          https://www.amazon.de/Gigaset-C430A-Telefon-Schnurlostelefon-Freisprechfunktion-Go-platin/dp/B00TG2BHBO/

                          A Gigaset GO-Box 100 - They usually connect to most DECT/GAP handsets
                          See reviews
                          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-GO-Box-100-black/dp/B087XN4YZ4/

                          Handset for the Go Box
                          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-C430H-Additional-Cordless-Handset/dp/B00F5V2FJ8/

                          Or dual (Just don't connect the Base) so you'll end up w. 1 charger
                          https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-Nuisance-Blocking-Cordless-Answering-black/dp/B00F07U4R2/

                          Note:
                          DECT phones from EU uses different freq , than US.
                          Make sure your choice has US freq's EU freq's , aka. buy locally.

                          Watch out for things like this one , (remember to get the DECT/VoIP base)
                          https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP720-Dect-Cordless-Telephone/dp/B01GUFAZ9O/

                          Base
                          https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP750-DECT-Station-Black/dp/B01GUFAYPO/

                          If you're happy with your existing analog , i'd prob try the ATA first.
                          If you need more handsets scattered around the house , i'd go for a new DECT system w. VoIP capabilities.

                          /Bingo

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                          • S
                            slimypizza
                            last edited by

                            Have you thought of Ooma? I have a wireless phone system with the base hardwired to my LAN and all extensions cordless.

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                            • B
                              BBCModelB @bingo600
                              last edited by

                              @bingo600

                              great info, thanks

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                              • B
                                BBCModelB
                                last edited by

                                thank you all so much for the great info - will check out all options mentioned

                                👍

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                                • B
                                  BBCModelB
                                  last edited by

                                  @bingo600 said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                  Gigaset-C430A

                                  How is Skype doing these days? Does it have a poor reputation? The phone I found in the attic is designed for it. Its a Polycom CX600.

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600 @BBCModelB
                                    last edited by

                                    @bbcmodelb
                                    Skype Cloud is "dead/dying" - Replaced by Teams

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                                    • JKnottJ
                                      JKnott @bingo600
                                      last edited by

                                      @bingo600

                                      I thought Teams was aimed at business and Skype was still alive and kicking for consumer use.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Can't remember the last time I used Skype. I used to have a stand-alone Skype hardware phone but that was rendered obsolete some time ago after MS bought it.

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                                        • B
                                          BBCModelB
                                          last edited by

                                          so I've picked up a Gigaset c300 handset & n300ai base unit, for voip use

                                          I've signed up with a local provider and hooked up the phone earlier today

                                          I made a test outgoing call - worked fine
                                          I made a test incoming call - worked fine BUT I was expecting my pfsense router to block it

                                          I haven't made any special allowances for the voip phone, yet my router lets the call through and handset successfully rings and lets me answer the call

                                          can someone explain how this worked? I was expecting to set up port forwarding or something to permit an incoming call?

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                                          • JKnottJ
                                            JKnott @BBCModelB
                                            last edited by

                                            @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                            can someone explain how this worked?

                                            I haven't checked for details, but I suspect the phone initiates the connection to the server and maintains some traffic that will keep the connection alive. When a device on the LAN initiates a connection, firewalls automagically allow the return traffic.

                                            Fire up Packet Capture to see what's happening.

                                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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