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    • bingo600B
      bingo600
      last edited by bingo600

      I'd go for either an ATA (Analog to VoIP) adapter , and reuse your existing phone.

      Ie.
      The linksys is a quite old design , but well proven
      https://www.amazon.com/Eboxer-Gateway-Protocol-Internet-Adapter/dp/B07KKD1HY3/

      I'd prob go for this one , the $4 more for an extra analog channel (2'nd phone). could come in handy.
      https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-GS-HT802-Analog-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B01JH7MYKA/

      Same func as the GS above , but only 1 analog port
      https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-HT801-Single-Port-Telephone-Adapter/dp/B06XW1BQHC/

      Or get a new DECT set w. VoIP capabilities.

      I can recommend Gigaset DECT VoIP phones.
      https://www.amazon.com/Gigaset-C530-Duo-Additional-Businesses/dp/B08M6CWBXX/

      https://www.amazon.com/Handsets-Affordable-Replacement-Nationwide-robocalls/dp/B085RV13ZP/

      I think you're UK based ... Just found out

      Too bad you're not in EU anymore.
      https://www.amazon.de/Gigaset-C430A-Telefon-Schnurlostelefon-Freisprechfunktion-Go-platin/dp/B00TG2BHBO/

      A Gigaset GO-Box 100 - They usually connect to most DECT/GAP handsets
      See reviews
      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-GO-Box-100-black/dp/B087XN4YZ4/

      Handset for the Go Box
      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-C430H-Additional-Cordless-Handset/dp/B00F5V2FJ8/

      Or dual (Just don't connect the Base) so you'll end up w. 1 charger
      https://www.amazon.co.uk/Gigaset-Nuisance-Blocking-Cordless-Answering-black/dp/B00F07U4R2/

      Note:
      DECT phones from EU uses different freq , than US.
      Make sure your choice has US freq's EU freq's , aka. buy locally.

      Watch out for things like this one , (remember to get the DECT/VoIP base)
      https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP720-Dect-Cordless-Telephone/dp/B01GUFAZ9O/

      Base
      https://www.amazon.com/Grandstream-DP750-DECT-Station-Black/dp/B01GUFAYPO/

      If you're happy with your existing analog , i'd prob try the ATA first.
      If you need more handsets scattered around the house , i'd go for a new DECT system w. VoIP capabilities.

      /Bingo

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        slimypizza
        last edited by

        Have you thought of Ooma? I have a wireless phone system with the base hardwired to my LAN and all extensions cordless.

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          BBCModelB @bingo600
          last edited by

          @bingo600

          great info, thanks

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            BBCModelB
            last edited by

            thank you all so much for the great info - will check out all options mentioned

            šŸ‘

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              BBCModelB
              last edited by

              @bingo600 said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

              Gigaset-C430A

              How is Skype doing these days? Does it have a poor reputation? The phone I found in the attic is designed for it. Its a Polycom CX600.

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @BBCModelB
                last edited by

                @bbcmodelb
                Skype Cloud is "dead/dying" - Replaced by Teams

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                • JKnottJ
                  JKnott @bingo600
                  last edited by

                  @bingo600

                  I thought Teams was aimed at business and Skype was still alive and kicking for consumer use.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Can't remember the last time I used Skype. I used to have a stand-alone Skype hardware phone but that was rendered obsolete some time ago after MS bought it.

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                      BBCModelB
                      last edited by

                      so I've picked up a Gigaset c300 handset & n300ai base unit, for voip use

                      I've signed up with a local provider and hooked up the phone earlier today

                      I made a test outgoing call - worked fine
                      I made a test incoming call - worked fine BUT I was expecting my pfsense router to block it

                      I haven't made any special allowances for the voip phone, yet my router lets the call through and handset successfully rings and lets me answer the call

                      can someone explain how this worked? I was expecting to set up port forwarding or something to permit an incoming call?

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @BBCModelB
                        last edited by

                        @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                        can someone explain how this worked?

                        I haven't checked for details, but I suspect the phone initiates the connection to the server and maintains some traffic that will keep the connection alive. When a device on the LAN initiates a connection, firewalls automagically allow the return traffic.

                        Fire up Packet Capture to see what's happening.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Yup, that's what I expect to happen.
                          The phone initiates the SIP session with an external provider outbound. pfSense allows that because it's an outbound connection. The SIP session and firewall state are held open with keep alive packets. The provider is able to use that open session to send the SIP invites for the incoming call. The phone uses the info in the invite to initiate and RDP session with the provider. The provider uses that open session/state to send the incoming audio back. The call succeeds.

                          For phones behind the firewall talking to an external server usually no special settings are required in pfSense.
                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/recipes/nat-voip-phones.html#configuring-nat-for-voip-phones

                          Steve

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                            BBCModelB
                            last edited by

                            ah, thank you both for explaining that - makes sense

                            I thought, I wonder if its using some kind of NAT where the phone keeps pulsing the the remote PBX, in order the for PBX to initiate a call to my router

                            Is there anything, security wise, to be aware of?

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              I would probably check the state table for the phone IP and see what else it's connecting to. It's probably 'phoning home' for firmware updates etc. Setting up a separate pass rule for just that IP with logging would catch that over a longer period.
                              Ideally you would put the phone in a separate subnet so that if the phone itself was ever compromised (unlikely) it would not have access to other local hosts.

                              Steve

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                              • bingo600B
                                bingo600 @BBCModelB
                                last edited by bingo600

                                @bbcmodelb said in replace home phone with VOIP phone:

                                so I've picked up a Gigaset c300 handset & n300ai base unit, for voip use

                                I've signed up with a local provider and hooked up the phone earlier today

                                I made a test outgoing call - worked fine
                                I made a test incoming call - worked fine

                                The Base is keeping the session to your sip provider "open" all the time.

                                The Gigaset bases usually can bind to 6 DECT handsets , if you need more of those. And i think they can register with 6 different providers at the same time too.

                                /Bingo

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                                  BBCModelB
                                  last edited by

                                  looks like everything is working now!

                                  many thanks to everyone who gave their input!

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