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    • dennypageD
      dennypage @Gertjan
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      @Gertjan and the UPS on the server must be named “ups”

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      • dennypageD
        dennypage @kevindd992002
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        @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

        This means that my Synology's upsmon.conf file has nothing in it. @dennypage , do you know why? I also changed the password in the upsd.users settings of the pfsense master NUT service and my Synology slave still connected in the GUI and was able to obtain device information. It's as if that the Synology UPS does not use any authentication to connect to the pfsense slave.

        The upsd.users file on pfSense will be overwritten whenever the service re-saves.

        On the Syno you’re probably looking in the wrong place for the upsmon.conf file. They moved it a few releases back. Look to see what file gets modded.

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          kevindd992002 @dennypage
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          @dennypage said in NUT package:

          @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

          This means that my Synology's upsmon.conf file has nothing in it. @dennypage , do you know why? I also changed the password in the upsd.users settings of the pfsense master NUT service and my Synology slave still connected in the GUI and was able to obtain device information. It's as if that the Synology UPS does not use any authentication to connect to the pfsense slave.

          The upsd.users file on pfSense will be overwritten whenever the service re-saves.

          On the Syno you’re probably looking in the wrong place for the upsmon.conf file. They moved it a few releases back. Look to see what file gets modded.

          I meant I changed the password of the monuser user in the pfsense NUT GUI. So technically if I change that to some gibberish random string, the Syno won't be able to connect and get the ups device information, right? Or is that monuser account only used for monitoring alone?

          That's weird. All documentation I see in the Internet say that's the correct place for the upsmon.conf in a Syno. And regardless, you won't be able to change the Syno monuser account anyway, right?

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            kevindd992002 @kevindd992002
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            @dennypage , do you still have any other ideas/clues as to why this is happening on my environment?

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            • dennypageD
              dennypage @kevindd992002
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              @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

              monuser/secret is the default username/password for Synology devices. It's interesting though:

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              This means that my Synology's upsmon.conf file has nothing in it. @dennypage , do you know why? I also changed the password in the upsd.users settings of the pfsense master NUT service and my Synology slave still connected in the GUI and was able to obtain device information. It's as if that the Synology UPS does not use any authentication to connect to the pfsense slave.

              Some of the previous information has to be incorrect.

              An empty upsmon.conf file would not only would this mean that there is no authentication, it would also mean that the Synology was able to magically intuit the IP address of the remote NUT master.

              I am running DSM 6.2.2-24922 Update 2.

              There are these "ups.conf" and "upsmon.conf" files:

              -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3935 May 9 15:51 /etc.defaults/ups/ups.conf
              -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3924 May 10 2015 /etc/ups/ups.conf
              -rw-r----- 1 root root 3935 May 9 15:51 /usr/syno/etc.defaults/ups/ups.conf
              -rw-r----- 1 root root 3898 Aug 11 15:08 /usr/syno/etc/ups/ups.conf
              -rw-r----- 1 root root 12150 May 9 15:51 /usr/syno/etc.defaults/ups/upsmon.conf
              -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12150 Aug 11 15:08 /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf

              The operational files currently appear in /usr/syno/etc/ups.

              With ups monitoring enabled on the Synology, /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf cannot not be empty, regardless of the ups being local or remote.

              I would suggest you start from the ground up. Ignore pfSense for now. Update, reboot and reconfigure ups monitoring on the Synology. Confirm that it is updating /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf as expected.

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              • GertjanG
                Gertjan
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                Also : login using 'root'.

                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                • dennypageD
                  dennypage @Gertjan
                  last edited by

                  @Gertjan said in NUT package:

                  Also : login using 'root'.

                  Lol. I thought that might be a Synology issue as well. I did test however, and was able to see the correct content of upsmon.conf using sudu.

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                    kevindd992002 @dennypage
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                    @dennypage said in NUT package:

                    @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                    monuser/secret is the default username/password for Synology devices. It's interesting though:

                    d06144d7-3fe5-4ea8-9e18-3544ff0deda7-image.png

                    This means that my Synology's upsmon.conf file has nothing in it. @dennypage , do you know why? I also changed the password in the upsd.users settings of the pfsense master NUT service and my Synology slave still connected in the GUI and was able to obtain device information. It's as if that the Synology UPS does not use any authentication to connect to the pfsense slave.

                    Some of the previous information has to be incorrect.

                    An empty upsmon.conf file would not only would this mean that there is no authentication, it would also mean that the Synology was able to magically intuit the IP address of the remote NUT master.

                    I am running DSM 6.2.2-24922 Update 2.

                    There are these "ups.conf" and "upsmon.conf" files:

                    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3935 May 9 15:51 /etc.defaults/ups/ups.conf
                    -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 3924 May 10 2015 /etc/ups/ups.conf
                    -rw-r----- 1 root root 3935 May 9 15:51 /usr/syno/etc.defaults/ups/ups.conf
                    -rw-r----- 1 root root 3898 Aug 11 15:08 /usr/syno/etc/ups/ups.conf
                    -rw-r----- 1 root root 12150 May 9 15:51 /usr/syno/etc.defaults/ups/upsmon.conf
                    -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12150 Aug 11 15:08 /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf

                    The operational files currently appear in /usr/syno/etc/ups.

                    With ups monitoring enabled on the Synology, /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf cannot not be empty, regardless of the ups being local or remote.

                    I would suggest you start from the ground up. Ignore pfSense for now. Update, reboot and reconfigure ups monitoring on the Synology. Confirm that it is updating /usr/syno/etc/ups/upsmon.conf as expected.

                    I'm on that latest version too. I have auto-update enabled on this Synology box so it's always updated.

                    I udnerstand that a upsmon.conf is impossible but it is what I see and I don't have a clue as to why.

                    @Gertjan , running sudo is the same as running the command as root. Anyway, I went in as root (sudo -i) and see the same thing.

                    b59489a5-5505-4fcf-835a-c8973e8031ed-image.png

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                    /usr/syno/etc.defaults/ups/upsmon.conf does have the contents that we expect but like mentioned this is not the operational file.

                    @dennypage , I already did try disabling and re-enabling ups monitoring on Synology to no avail. Is it a time for a Synology support ticket now?

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                    • dennypageD
                      dennypage @kevindd992002
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                      @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                      @dennypage , I already did try disabling and re-enabling ups monitoring on Synology to no avail. Is it a time for a Synology support ticket now?

                      Just for completeness, what does the command

                      ls -lc /usr/syno/etc/ups
                      

                      show?

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                        kevindd992002 @dennypage
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                        @dennypage said in NUT package:

                        ls -lc /usr/syno/etc/ups

                        root@Synology:~# ls -lc /usr/syno/etc/ups
                        total 24
                        -rw-r----- 1 root root 5515 May 15 03:20 nutscan-usb.h
                        -rw-r----- 1 root root 3935 Aug  9 17:42 ups.conf
                        -rw-r----- 1 root root   15 May 15 03:20 upsd.conf
                        -rw-r----- 1 root root 2016 Aug  9 17:44 upsd.users
                        -rw-r--r-- 1 root root    0 Aug  9 17:42 upsmon.conf
                        -rw-r----- 1 root root 4020 Aug  9 17:42 upssched.conf
                        

                        upsmon.conf has read rights for root, root (group), and others so I should be able to read the contents.

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                        • GertjanG
                          Gertjan @kevindd992002
                          last edited by Gertjan

                          @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                          upsmon.conf has read rights for root, root (group), and others so I should be able to read the contents.

                          Your upsmon.conf is a zero bytes file.

                          Here mine for comparison :

                          root@DiskStation:~# ls -lc /usr/syno/etc/ups
                          total 36
                          -rw-r----- 1 root root  5515 May 15 06:19 nutscan-usb.h
                          -rw-r----- 1 root root  3935 Aug  7 17:12 ups.conf
                          -rw-r----- 1 root root    15 May 15 06:19 upsd.conf
                          -rw-r----- 1 root root  2016 May 15 06:19 upsd.users
                          -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12151 Aug  7 17:12 upsmon.conf
                          -rw-r----- 1 root root  4051 Aug  7 17:12 upssched.conf
                          

                          It seems that only your upsmon.conf file is created correctly.
                          Mine has 12151 bytes, yours none.

                          edit : something in your (Syno GUI) settings makes the system complain, and it fails to create the config file ?

                          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                            kevindd992002 @Gertjan
                            last edited by

                            @Gertjan said in NUT package:

                            @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                            upsmon.conf has read rights for root, root (group), and others so I should be able to read the contents.

                            Your upsmon.conf is a zero bytes file.

                            Here mine for comparison :

                            root@DiskStation:~# ls -lc /usr/syno/etc/ups
                            total 36
                            -rw-r----- 1 root root  5515 May 15 06:19 nutscan-usb.h
                            -rw-r----- 1 root root  3935 Aug  7 17:12 ups.conf
                            -rw-r----- 1 root root    15 May 15 06:19 upsd.conf
                            -rw-r----- 1 root root  2016 May 15 06:19 upsd.users
                            -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 12151 Aug  7 17:12 upsmon.conf
                            -rw-r----- 1 root root  4051 Aug  7 17:12 upssched.conf
                            

                            It seems that only your upsmon.conf file is created correctly.
                            Mine has 12151 bytes, yours none.

                            edit : something in your (Syno GUI) settings makes the system complain, and it fails to create the config file ?

                            Right, I notice that. You mean my upsmon.conf is NOT created correctly.

                            Nothing complains in the Syno GUI but it doesn't follow any of the UPS master's (in pfsense) commands and there is no log in pfsense where the UPS is connecting to it using the monuser account.

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                            • GertjanG
                              Gertjan @kevindd992002
                              last edited by

                              @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                              is NOT created correctly

                              Yep, that right - sorry for the typo.

                              I taled the main messages 'syslog' - it does show up some UPS related messages.

                              Here I activate the UPs with the 192.168.1.1 == my pfSense.

                              2019-08-20T17:26:39+02:00 DiskStation synoscgi_SYNO.Core.ExternalDevice.UPS_1_set[8663]: webapi-UPS.cpp:238 Set Service from Disable to Enable
                              2019-08-20T17:26:41+02:00 DiskStation upsmon[8721]: Startup successful
                              2019-08-20T17:26:41+02:00 DiskStation upsmon[8723]: UPS [ups@192.168.1.1] connected
                              

                              I used the command

                              tail -f /var/log/messages
                              

                              Use also

                              grep 'ups' /var/log/messages
                              

                              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                kevindd992002 @Gertjan
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                                @Gertjan said in NUT package:

                                grep 'ups' /var/log/messages

                                Thanks for the tip. Look at my /var/log/messages: https://pastebin.com/pGHXFzgp

                                It looks like the last time my UPS connection worked properly was on 6/4/2019 which was a long time ago! I don't know what happened but I see a lot of these now:

                                2019-06-04T17:58:02+08:00 Synology synoservice: synoservice.c:1559 pause gcpd du e to require service cupsd runkey is stop

                                You have any clue as to what's that?

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                                • GertjanG
                                  Gertjan
                                  last edited by

                                  Your Syno clock is ok ?
                                  Or all messages from last month are missing ? Or did you only took a part of the log ?

                                  A fact is : it all changed here for you :

                                  2019-06-04T14:38:33+08:00 Synology synoups: [UPS] Check Boot Status.
                                  2019-06-04T14:38:33+08:00 Synology synoups: [UPS] Server is going to Safe Mode. It will stop all services and umount all volumes.
                                  

                                  I know you won't like the next advise : re-install de DSM ...... ;)

                                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  • dennypageD
                                    dennypage @Gertjan
                                    last edited by

                                    @Gertjan said in NUT package:

                                    A fact is : it all changed here for you :

                                    2019-06-04T14:38:33+08:00 Synology synoups: [UPS] Check Boot Status.
                                    2019-06-04T14:38:33+08:00 Synology synoups: [UPS] Server is going to Safe Mode. It will stop all services and umount all volumes.
                                    

                                    This entry in the log indicates that the Synology is waiting to have the power removed and restored.

                                    It's unlikely that the Synology has been sitting in safe mode (non functional) for 75 days. But if it hasn't been rebooted since then, I would certainly reboot it.

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                                      kevindd992002
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                                      @dennypage
                                      The DSM was rebooted a lot of times since then. It certainly is not in safe mode because it is being used everyday.

                                      @Gertjan
                                      I posted a snippet of the result of the grep but did not skip in between lines, the clock is fine. Reinstalling DSM is my last resort, yes, but I have an open case with Snyology. Let me know if you have more ideas though.

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                                      • GertjanG
                                        Gertjan @kevindd992002
                                        last edited by Gertjan

                                        @kevindd992002 said in NUT package:

                                        more ideas

                                        Yep, a nasty one.
                                        I'll post tomorrow the file upsmon.conf your missing, the one refuses to generate.
                                        You should edit it with your own settings - put in place - make it read only .... and start / restart the 'ups' demon.

                                        Here it is : https://pastebin.com/L1mqCb1Y

                                        Without the comments, these are the settings :

                                        RUN_AS_USER root
                                        
                                        MONITOR ups@192.168.1.1 1 monuser secret slave
                                        
                                        MINSUPPLIES 1
                                        
                                        SHUTDOWNCMD ""
                                        
                                        NOTIFYCMD /usr/sbin/upssched
                                        
                                        POLLFREQ 5
                                        
                                        POLLFREQALERT 5
                                        
                                        HOSTSYNC 15
                                        
                                        DEADTIME 90
                                        
                                        POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower
                                        
                                        NOTIFYFLAG ONLINE EXEC
                                        NOTIFYFLAG ONBATT EXEC
                                        NOTIFYFLAG LOWBATT EXEC
                                        NOTIFYFLAG NOCOMM EXEC
                                        NOTIFYFLAG COMMBAD IGNORE
                                        NOTIFYFLAG COMMOK IGNORE
                                        NOTIFYFLAG SHUTDOWN IGNORE
                                        NOTIFYFLAG FSD EXEC
                                        NOTIFYFLAG NOPARENT SYSLOG
                                        
                                        RBWARNTIME 43200
                                        
                                        NOCOMMWARNTIME 300
                                        
                                        FINALDELAY 5
                                        

                                        My settings :

                                        51a65a27-05bc-469a-807f-25f1568a3587-image.png

                                        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                          kevindd992002 @Gertjan
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                                          @Gertjan

                                          Will Synology write the defaults in the file after restarting the ups daemon? I do have the correct upsmon.conf in etc.defaults/ so I can also use that (if it's the same as yours).

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                                          • dennypageD
                                            dennypage @kevindd992002
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                                            @kevindd992002 Given that the Synology isn’t writing the upsmon.conf file correctly, I wouldn’t count on it starting the upsmon service correctly either.

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