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      juanchopablo
      last edited by

      I have 2 108v2, what would I have to edit if I want to remove vlan 1 just from ports 7 and 8?

      Thanks,

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        @lexxai:

        I have same troubles with return to device changed configuration file…

        Hmm, damn.
        What is that checksum I wonder….

        Steve

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          bilbo
          last edited by

          Is this vlan 1 issue the reason i see tplink broadcast traffic on all ports? I have the five port.

          Edit: I did the hex hack and removed all ports from the vlan but still see this broadcast, any pointers on stopping it.

          edit: scrap that, it appears to have been the loop detection setting! Nice to get rid of the default vlan though.

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            tpham3783
            last edited by

            Hi all,

            It looks like tplink is going to fix the issue related to unlinking vlan1 according to this thread http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging#post226139

            They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by

              hehe - sweet… Will for sure fire the POS sitting on my shelf when this beta firmware comes out..

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Mmm, better late than never I guess.  ;)

                I hope they might think about fixing some other models, such os the one I have. Though it's way old at this point so I'm not holding my breath!

                Steve

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                  BrucexLing
                  last edited by

                  @tpham3783:

                  They will have a beta firmware to test in a week or two.  I am glad that the company has regnonized that it is a bug and is taking corrective action.

                  This could put TPLink back on the pedestal with a product fit for purpose.

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                    n3by
                    last edited by

                    http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?96245-TL-SG-108E-V2-VLAN-1-tagging&p=227797&viewfull=1#post227797

                    New firmware released for:
                    TL-SG105E v3
                    TL-SG108E v3

                    I tested 108E v2 and can be flashed with v3 Firmware Version: 1.0.0 Build 20171214 Rel.70905

                    It look like only a minor cosmetic change to allow VLAN1 edit ( like I did it on config edit some time ago ) and not a security update to fix management access from any port/vlan.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      :(

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by

                        so if you broadcast on vlan 1 all ports see it?  WTF?

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                          Apocalypse @stephenw10
                          last edited by Apocalypse

                          @stephenw10 Maybe is CRC16/CCITT (kermit) or CRC16/X-25. Yoy can try hashing the config file in this or more CRC16 algorithms with the checksum offsets filled with zeros or FF and compare results with original checksum. This checksum is based on config file, maybe in full config because this can verify every change made.

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                          • noplanN
                            noplan @johnpoz
                            last edited by noplan

                            @johnpoz said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                            While I agree in enterprise setup you always remove vlan 1, do not use vlan 1 etc.. Your management vlan is not vlan 1, etc etc etc

                            As long as u can remove vlan1 from the ports u r pretty safe
                            Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..
                            eg zyxel or Dlink

                            I was pretty sure that
                            I can remove vlan1 membership of ports on tplink smart switches in 2019/2020

                            Hmmm gonna check

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by

                              @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                              Removing VLAN 1 not workin on a lot of lower priced switches..

                              Not true at all.. I have multiple low priced smart switches on the shelf to play with.. Only one that did this nonsense where you could not remove vlan 1 from a port was the tplink that I have run into..

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                              • noplanN
                                noplan @johnpoz
                                last edited by

                                @johnpoz

                                tplink, cool we use them a lot for low budget setups
                                And always remove VLAN 1 but yep depending on version and firmware

                                Never run into a problem on an audit or cert when we told them
                                That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                But bottom line... Remove vlan1 on low budget switch removes some security concerns tooooo

                                😎

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  @noplan said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                  That there is no default VLAN (1) on the switch

                                  So you lied to them..

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                                  • noplanN
                                    noplan @johnpoz
                                    last edited by

                                    @johnpoz

                                    No port is member to vlan1

                                    I would never ever lie to a 3rd party auditor ggggggggg

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz

                                      that is different than removing vlan 1 from the device and setting a different vlan as default ;)

                                      The reason tplink stated you couldn't remove vlan 1 on a port, is you wouldn't be able to admin the switch.. Its possible on those low end switches that do not allow you to change the default vlan.. 1 port has to remain in vlan 1 to be able to admin it.

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                                      • noplanN
                                        noplan @johnpoz
                                        last edited by

                                        @johnpoz

                                        Default VLAN ist always 666 👺👺👺

                                        As long as the core switches supports this funNonsens

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                                        • noplanN
                                          noplan @johnpoz
                                          last edited by

                                          @johnpoz said in TP-Link Easy Smart Switch security question:

                                          1 port has to remain in vlan 1 to be able to admin it.

                                          Yes true...

                                          Got one tplink in the mail today to set up for a super low budget... I'm gonna check this VLAN1 fun next hours....

                                          First New Light bulbs needed :)

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                                          • noplanN
                                            noplan
                                            last edited by

                                            so back with the budget project report ...
                                            (at the moment ~ 20 - 28 EUR incl. VAT)

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                                            u can remove VLAN1 from all ports (not member of) ;)

                                            but u have to use both (if not both is set its not gonna work)

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                                            works wit an uplink from coreswitch (Cisco / HP)
                                            and direct filled from pfS

                                            brNP

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