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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      I wouldn't expect to need anything too special there. Just not trying to reuse the crusty stuff Lanner put on it 10 years ago!

      For reference at mostly idle I see:

      [24.03-RELEASE][root@m500.stevew.lan]/root: sysctl dev.cpu.0.temperature dev.cpu.1.temperature dev.cpu.2.temperature dev.cpu.3.temperature
      dev.cpu.0.temperature: 40.0C
      dev.cpu.1.temperature: 38.0C
      dev.cpu.2.temperature: 40.0C
      dev.cpu.3.temperature: 42.0C
      [24.03-RELEASE][root@m500.stevew.lan]/root: ./WGXepc64 -f
      Found Firebox M400/500
      Current fanspeed is 2e, minimum fanspeed is 1b
      
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      • chpalmerC
        chpalmer
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        Don't know if anyone else has tried yet (and I have no reason to think it wouldn't work but..) I successfully upgraded to Pfsense+ on my M400 today running an i5 processor..

        More to support Netgate and Pfsense than anything.. but in case anyone else is holding back.. ;)

        Triggering snowflakes one by one..
        Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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          xxup
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          More news on the Intel CPUs that don't reboot properly on M400/500.

          Intel i3-4350T - is also no good.

          After re-reading this thread, the conclusion is that only the i3-4130 seems to work correctly.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            The i5-4670S reboots correctly. And provides a nice performance upgrade. 😉

            Not quite as low power as one of the i3-T CPUs but not much difference at low loads.

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            • chpalmerC
              chpalmer @acsaba
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              @acsaba not sure how I missed your original posts but my Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T generally sits at 50C.. I did replace the fans with a quieter model linked earlier in this thread.. and they're not running anywhere near full speed.

              This is also the first I'm seeing about some Intel CPUs not rebooting correctly.. Guess I have to do some rereading because mine seems to have that issue.

              Triggering snowflakes one by one..
              Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4590T CPU @ 2.00GHz on an M400 WG box.

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                acsaba @chpalmer
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                @chpalmer In the meantime I solved the problem installing arch Linux and controlling the fan speed properly. For the moment I'm not using the WG because of the power consumption and noise, so I will convert back to the original WG firmware.
                Anyhow, many thanks for sharing the info.
                Keep in touch.

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                  xxup @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 Thank you. I will keep looking on eBay - there are a few in the USA, but the shipping cost and exchange rate are a killer. As a home box, the i3 has plenty of power.

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                    xxup @chpalmer
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                    @chpalmer Yep. It is a doozy of a thread, but there is tonnes (metric of course) of information in here. I never did get the VGA working, but I had a tonne of fun playing with the BIOS writer - never needed to use one before this project.

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                      xxup
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                      I wonder if the i5-4670K or i5-4670 will work? There are plenty of these available. I can see that the K is only slightly slower and uses more power, but the home box has never seen more than about 40% CPU usage that I have observed.

                      I have just bought a i5-4670K and a i5-4670 off eBay. I will report back with the reboot test results.

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        The K CPUs were usually the unlocked version preferred by overclockers. So capable of the maximum possible performance. And cost! Of course that also means many have had a hard life. 😉

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                          Mookatroid @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10
                          Avoid the i7-6700
                          Worked great until it died
                          At which point I realized the heatsink could not dea

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            That definitely wouldn't work in the M400/M500. I assume you tried that in an Mx70?

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                              Mookatroid @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              Sorry, yes.
                              Mx70
                              The i7-6700 runs too hot for the Mx70 heatsink and eventually just cooks itself.

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Urgh, best avoid that then! 😬

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                                  xxup
                                  last edited by xxup

                                  @xxup said in Watchguard Firebox M400/M500:

                                  i5-4670K

                                  I have installed the i5-4670K into the M500 and I can confirm that it reboots from both the console and the GUI. The i5-4670 should be here next week, but I am confident that it will boot okay as it is older than the K version.

                                  ***** Edit ***** The K runs about 3-4C hotter than the old i3-4130. I will keep this one in the test lab box and the i5-4670 in the home (production) box.

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                                    xxup
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                                    The i5-4670 has just been installed into the home network's M400 and the reboot test was successful. Certainly runs cooler than the i5-4670K.

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                                      korenchkin
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                                      thanks all for the great reading and !BIOS! file,now running on Peplink balance 710 (i3-4330+2g ram +4gb cf),now 8gb ram+sata ssd

                                      it was usable with default bios,but i have 2,so i said myself why not...(i have bios backup and some spi tools too,so i was not scared)...also fans are a bit less noisier(still loud for router...)..and the options in bios..wow i like it..

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