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    netboy @SteveITS
    last edited by Oct 22, 2022, 2:07 AM

    @steveits stephenw10 confirmed this can be done but you say not possible. I am totally confused. Can anybody chime in....

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
      last edited by Oct 22, 2022, 3:00 AM

      @netboy One can separate/isolate switch ports on a 2100. I have one and have done it (and, side note, undone it). You need to use VLANs as directed to do it. You’re trying to do an extra step and put two on the same VLAN. So something like:

      Port 1 - unchanged
      Port 2 - unchanged
      Port 3 - VLAN 4093
      Port 4 - VLAN 4093

      Correct? Nothing you plug in needs to know about VLAN 4093.

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        netboy @netboy
        last edited by netboy Oct 22, 2022, 2:51 PM Oct 22, 2022, 2:43 PM

        @netboy This is my understanding so far....

        Define two VLANS

        • VLAN1: 192.168.0.XXX (Range 192.168.0.50 to 192.168.0.100)

        • VLAN2: 176.16.0.XXX (Range 176.16.0.50 to 176.16.0.100)
          LAN1 & LAN2

        • Assign ports to VLAN1: For VLAN1 remove ports LAN3 & LAN4 but include and "UNTAG" ports LAN1 AND LAN2

        • Assign ports to VLAN2: For VLAN2 remove ports LAN1 & LAN2 but include and "UNTAG" ports LAN3 AND LAN4

        • Setup firewall rules so that VLAN1 traffic can flow to VLAN2 but not vice versa and ensure both VLAN1 and VLAN2 can access the internet

        Have I understood the setup? Something similar to youtube video.

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Oct 22, 2022, 3:28 PM

          Yes. You can do that and you don't need any separate managed switches to do it. As Steve said the VLANs are all internal to the 2100 so no problem there.

          Steve

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            SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
            last edited by Oct 22, 2022, 3:53 PM

            @netboy I'm not very well caffeinated yet, but you only want two networks, correct? So you only need one VLAN. The base-not-configured ports are all one interface out of the box because it's a switch. You're trying to separate two of them.

            Or if you follow Ryan's linked directions to the letter to isolate one port, and plug in a cheap 5 port switch, you'd have 3 ports +4 (1->4 remaining switch) ports.

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              netboy @SteveITS
              last edited by netboy Oct 25, 2022, 10:49 PM Oct 25, 2022, 10:48 PM

              @steveits
              Now I am trying to implement my idea and seek help.

              I have changed my default IP for router from 192.168.1.1. to 192.168.0.1.

              Can somebody show me screenshots to achieve the following:

              • Create 2 subnets 192.168.0.XXX & 172.16.0.XXX

              • Assign physical port LAN 1 & 2 to 192.168.0.XXX and assign physical port LAN 3 & 4 to 172.16.0.XXX

              Please note that I do not use VLAN's - The idea is to connect LAN 1 & 2 to unmanaged switches and so is LAN 3 & 4 to another set of unmanaged switches.

              I want to take baby steps as I go so that I can get help from this forum. Thanks

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                SteveITS Galactic Empire @netboy
                last edited by Oct 25, 2022, 11:03 PM

                @netboy LAN is already assigned to 192.168.0.1 so ports 1 and 2 are done.

                If you follow https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/configuring-the-switch-ports.html that will isolate port 4 and you can assign it 172.16.0.1. I would start with that, and worry about port 3 in a second step.

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                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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                  netboy @SteveITS
                  last edited by netboy Oct 29, 2022, 10:34 PM Oct 29, 2022, 10:23 PM

                  @steveits Hey steveits, I have created the port 4 as per the url you provided. Now I want this to apply to port 3 as well. Can you kindly let me know how I go about doing this? Do I follow identical process for port 3 as well - I basically want port 3 and 4 on the same subnet 172.16.0.1/24

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                    netboy @netboy
                    last edited by netboy Oct 29, 2022, 11:53 PM Oct 29, 2022, 11:52 PM

                    @netboy
                    45e7ceaa-16a8-4aed-b2a2-1e94a385e078-image.png

                    My guess is based on the screenshot above:

                    • edit VLAN group 0 and REMOVE 3

                    • edit VLAN group 1 and ADD 3

                    Will the above work? The idea is to make 3 & 4 in subnet 172.16.0.1/24

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by stephenw10 Oct 30, 2022, 1:52 PM Oct 30, 2022, 1:49 PM

                      Yes, do that and also change the PVID on port 3 to 4084 to match port 4.

                      Screenshot from 2022-10-30 13-51-36.png

                      Steve

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                        netboy @stephenw10
                        last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 2:59 PM

                        @stephenw10
                        Thank you.
                        This is how it looks now:

                        3ed92305-c6b6-47c1-8c7b-db60f2f92551-image.png

                        add2a8d0-bf76-4de9-a88d-ace8b1b2efee-image.png

                        Does the above sound OK ?

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                          netboy @netboy
                          last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 3:11 PM

                          @netboy As soon as I did the above my Web GUI is VERY SLOW (I was trying to apply static address to certain MAC addresses). Has the port / switch configuration messed up something?

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                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 3:12 PM

                            Yes, that's correct for the switch config.

                            As long as you have the mvneta1.4084 VLAN interface also configured and assigned it should work as expected.

                            Steve

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                              netboy @stephenw10
                              last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 3:16 PM

                              @stephenw10
                              Get the following message:
                              Hmmm… can't reach this page
                              192.168.0.1
                              took too long to respond

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                                netboy
                                last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 3:18 PM

                                @netboy 372d22f8-ac5e-41a1-a875-b653c4f7ebfd-image.png

                                This is what I have

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                                  netboy @netboy
                                  last edited by netboy Oct 30, 2022, 3:54 PM Oct 30, 2022, 3:21 PM

                                  @netboy Definitely something is wrong... the web GUI is very slow......Any suggestions?

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                                    netboy @netboy
                                    last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 3:53 PM

                                    @netboy When I removed the ethernet jack from port 3 the web gui works normal. Is there something I am missing in configuring port 3?

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                                      rcoleman-netgate Netgate @netboy
                                      last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 4:49 PM

                                      @netboy What was plugged into port 3 exactly? And if it was a switch what was THAT plugged in to?

                                      What it sounds like to me, after a quick glance over the thread, is you might have a loop going -- your main network feeding back into the new VLAN... but that's just an educated guess.

                                      Ryan
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                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by Oct 30, 2022, 5:14 PM

                                        Yes, if you had the switch connected to ports 3 and 4.
                                        The switch in the 2100 does not support STP to prevent that.

                                        Steve

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                                          netboy @stephenw10
                                          last edited by netboy Oct 30, 2022, 6:16 PM Oct 30, 2022, 6:15 PM

                                          @stephenw10 What is STP? Yes port 3 and port 4 are connected to "separate" unmanaged switches so that anything connected to the switch has the 172 subnet.

                                          This was my idea right from beginning.

                                          Are you telling me that I cannot connect any switch to port 3 and 4?

                                          Please note that port 3 is disconnected right now and port 4 is connected to a unmanaged switch. This configuration does not choke up web GUI but once I connect port 3 to a switch the web GUI chokes up.

                                          Kindly advice

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