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      fjmp24 @dennypage
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        fjmp24 @dennypage
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        @dennypage Thanks I deleted override.battery.runtime.low and override.battery.runtime.warn and I don't receive notifications anymore. But I have another questions.

        1. When I cut power to my NUT, pfsense sends a shutdown when my NUT have :
        • runtime is equal to 0:01:41
        • battery charge is equal to 19%
          Why doesn't it send the message when runtime is equal to 0:05:00 ? I set override.ups.delay.shutdown = 300
        1. Once my devices have been shutdown, the NUT runs for about 1 minute and displays the runtime. Then it doesn't display runtime and works about 0:02:49. I don't understand how it works.An idea ?

        Below my configuration:

        battery.charge	9
        battery.charge.low	20
        battery.runtime	355
        battery.type	PbAc
        device.mfr	EATON
        device.model	Ellipse PRO 650
        device.serial	P354L18GBN
        device.type	ups
        driver.debug	0
        driver.flag.allow_killpower	0
        driver.flag.ignorelb	enabled
        driver.name	usbhid-ups
        driver.parameter.override.ups.delay.shutdown	300
        driver.parameter.pollfreq	30
        driver.parameter.pollinterval	2
        driver.parameter.port	auto
        driver.parameter.synchronous	auto
        driver.state	quiet
        driver.version	2.8.0.1
        driver.version.data	MGE HID 1.46
        driver.version.internal	0.52
        driver.version.usb	libusb-1.0.0 (API: 0x1000102)
        input.frequency	50.0
        input.transfer.high	285
        input.transfer.low	165
        input.voltage	225.0
        input.voltage.extended	no
        outlet.1.desc	PowerShare Outlet 1
        outlet.1.id	2
        outlet.1.status	on
        outlet.1.switchable	no
        outlet.2.desc	PowerShare Outlet 2
        outlet.2.id	3
        outlet.2.status	on
        outlet.2.switchable	no
        outlet.desc	Main Outlet
        outlet.id	1
        outlet.switchable	no
        output.frequency	50.0
        output.frequency.nominal	50
        output.voltage	227.0
        output.voltage.nominal	230
        ups.beeper.status	enabled
        ups.delay.shutdown	300
        ups.delay.start	30
        ups.firmware	01.16.0020
        ups.load	7
        ups.mfr	EATON
        ups.model	Ellipse PRO 650
        ups.power	49
        ups.power.nominal	650
        ups.productid	ffff
        ups.realpower	18
        ups.serial	P354L18GBN
        ups.status	OL LB
        ups.timer.shutdown	-1
        ups.timer.start	-1
        ups.vendorid	0463
        

        Thank you for your help and sorry for my newbie's questions.

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          dennypage @fjmp24
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          @fjmp24 said in Notification: UPS ups battery is low:

          • runtime is equal to 0:01:41
          • battery charge is equal to 19%
            Why doesn't it send the message when runtime is equal to 0:05:00 ? I set override.ups.delay.shutdown = 300

          NUT initiates a shutdown when the UPS declares that the battery is low (LB). The decision regarding a low battery is made by the UPS itself. Some UPSs have configurable LB levels, and some have fixed LB levels. If your UPS has a configurable LB level, this is configured by the battery.charge.low variable. 20% is a common default.

          When performing a shutdown, one of the last steps is for the OS (pfSense) to instruction the UPS to cut the power. After receiving that command, the UPS waits a short period of time before it actually turns off the power. The purpose of this delay is to allow the OS to complete its shutdown before power is cut. Some UPSs have configurable delays, and some have fixed delays. If your UPS has a configurable delay, this is configured by the ups.delay.shutdown variable. 20 seconds is a common default.

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            fjmp24 @dennypage
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            @dennypage Thank you for your help

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              fjmp24 @fjmp24
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              Hi,

              I did a test to see if my UPS is working properly. I could see that it wasn't :-(
              The UPS cuts the power very quickly (about 1 minute), which means, for example, my NAS doesn't have time to shut down properly.
              My setup was working before. I updated pfSense. The problem might be coming from there.

              UPS Detail

              Variable 	Value
              battery.charge	100
              battery.charge.low	20
              battery.runtime	1417
              battery.type	PbAc
              device.mfr	EATON
              device.model	Ellipse PRO 650
              device.serial	P354L18GBN
              device.type	ups
              driver.debug	0
              driver.flag.allow_killpower	0
              driver.flag.ignorelb	enabled
              driver.name	usbhid-ups
              driver.parameter.override.ups.delay.shutdown	90
              driver.parameter.pollfreq	30
              driver.parameter.pollinterval	2
              driver.parameter.port	auto
              driver.parameter.synchronous	auto
              driver.state	updateinfo
              driver.version	2.8.2
              driver.version.data	MGE HID 1.46
              driver.version.internal	0.53
              driver.version.usb	libusb-1.0.0 (API: 0x1000102)
              input.frequency	50.0
              input.transfer.high	285
              input.transfer.low	165
              input.voltage	229.0
              input.voltage.extended	no
              outlet.1.desc	PowerShare Outlet 1
              outlet.1.id	2
              outlet.1.status	on
              outlet.1.switchable	no
              outlet.2.desc	PowerShare Outlet 2
              outlet.2.id	3
              outlet.2.status	on
              outlet.2.switchable	no
              outlet.desc	Main Outlet
              outlet.id	1
              outlet.switchable	no
              output.frequency	50.0
              output.frequency.nominal	50
              output.voltage	230.0
              output.voltage.nominal	230
              ups.beeper.status	enabled
              ups.delay.shutdown	90
              ups.delay.start	30
              ups.firmware	01.16.0020
              ups.load	19
              ups.mfr	EATON
              ups.model	Ellipse PRO 650
              ups.power	114
              ups.power.nominal	650
              ups.productid	ffff
              ups.realpower	76
              ups.serial	P354L18GBN
              ups.status	OL
              ups.timer.shutdown	-1
              ups.timer.start	-1
              ups.vendorid	0463
              

              Extra Arguments to driver

              ignorelb
              override.ups.delay.shutdown = 90
              

              Do you have an idea ? Sorry I'm newbie Thanks.

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                dennypage @fjmp24
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                @fjmp24 How old is the battery? Have you done a calibration test?

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                  fjmp24 @dennypage
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                  @dennypage I changed the battery this year. I don't understand : "Have you done a calibration test" ?

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                    dennypage @fjmp24
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                    @fjmp24 said in Notification: UPS ups battery is low:

                    I don't understand : "Have you done a calibration test" ?

                    Most UPSs have a "battery calibration test", "runtime calibration test", etc. You are looking for a test that runs the load off of the battery (without cutting mains) to see how the battery behaves under actual load.

                    Btw, you should remove the ignorelb directive from the Extra Arguments to driver section. Unless you have a very old UPS that signals low battery whenever the UPS is on battery. You almost certainly do not have such a UPS.

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                      fjmp24 @dennypage
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                      @dennypage My UPD indicate runtime: 18:21

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                        dennypage @fjmp24
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                        @fjmp24 said in Notification: UPS ups battery is low:

                        @dennypage My UPD indicate runtime: 18:21

                        Yes, but that may be completely inaccurate, especially with bad batteries. That's why you run a calibration test.

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                          fjmp24 @dennypage
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                          @dennypage I can't run the test. But there's an automated system that does it every week. I tested it without override.ups.delay.shutdown. My UPS shuts down after 30 seconds, compared to 1 minute with the override.ups.delay.shutdown.

                          I don't understand anything :-((

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                            dennypage @fjmp24
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                            @fjmp24 said in Notification: UPS ups battery is low:

                            @dennypage I can't run the test. But there's an automated system that does it every week. I tested it without override.ups.delay.shutdown. My UPS shuts down after 30 seconds, compared to 1 minute with the override.ups.delay.shutdown.

                            I didn't say you should remove the override.ups.delay.shutdown directive, I said you should remove the ignorelb directive.

                            Also, you do not have anything in the Advanced settings section, correct?

                            As to running a calibration test, consult your UPS manual or support from the manufacturer of your UPS.

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                              fjmp24 @dennypage
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                              I didn't say you should remove the override.ups.delay.shutdown directive, I said you should remove the ignorelb directive.

                              Ok, I will test without ignorelb directive.

                              Also, you do not have anything in the Advanced settings section, correct?

                              Yes

                              As to running a calibration test, consult your UPS manual or support from the manufacturer of your UPS.

                              I find anything I will search tomorow

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