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    • fireodoF
      fireodo @valnar
      last edited by

      @valnar said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

      If not, can somebody summarize the recommended tweaks?

      These are my settings:

      vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=120 (you can increase this value as you wish - I was gone until 2400 in experiments with no problems)
zfs set sync=disabled zroot/tmp (pfSense/tmp)
zfs set sync=disabled zroot/var (pfSense/var)

      Regards,
      fireodo

      Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
      SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
      pfsense 2.7.2 CE
      Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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      • M
        Mission-Ghost @elvisimprsntr
        last edited by

        @elvisimprsntr Interesting. Why the inconsistency, I wonder?

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        • M
          Mission-Ghost @fireodo
          last edited by

          @fireodo said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

          If you make a entry in the "system tuning" the setting will survive even a system upgrade (if still necessary)...

          Sweet. Thanks.

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          • fireodoF
            fireodo @Mission-Ghost
            last edited by

            @Mission-Ghost said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

            Sweet.

            Nice that it tastes good 😁 😁

            Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
            SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
            pfsense 2.7.2 CE
            Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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            • JonathanLeeJ
              JonathanLee @fireodo
              last edited by JonathanLee

              @fireodo You should set this in cron right? Because this will default every reboot...

              zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var
              zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/tmp

              should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

              Make sure to upvote

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              • fireodoF
                fireodo @JonathanLee
                last edited by

                @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

                You use the zfs set sync=disabled pfSense/var in cron right?

                No.

                Because this will default every reboot...

                Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot. (btw. on 23.04.2025 the system was rebooted, after an long power outage that exhausted the UPS, caused by work on the power line by the provider)

                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                • fireodoF
                  fireodo @JonathanLee
                  last edited by

                  @JonathanLee said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

                  should they no longer show if you run "zfs list" also?

                  You should see the status if you run:

                  zfs get -r sync pfSense

                  or

                  zfs get -r sync zroot

                  depending on what pfsense system you are.

                  Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                  SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                  pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                  Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                  • JonathanLeeJ
                    JonathanLee @fireodo
                    last edited by JonathanLee

                    @fireodo Thank you for the reply,

                    Shell Output - zfs get -r sync pfSense
NAME                                                                                PROPERTY  VALUE     SOURCE
pfSense                                                                             sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT                                                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone                                                         sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/cf                                                      sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_clone/var_db_pkg                                              sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/cf@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                                 sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                      sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg@2025-01-20-10:11:49-0                         sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup                                                   sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/cf                                                sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_cache_pkg                                     sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv4_Backup/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6                                                          sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                    sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/cf@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                                 sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-11:18:04-0                         sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy                                   sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf                                sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/cf@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:46:05-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-02-29-08:52:57-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-04-01-12:32:27-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-06-27-11:52:26-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_non_website_test_proxy/var_db_pkg@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone                                 sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2024-07-25-15:54:45-0           sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone@2025-04-30-12:10:00-0           sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/cf                              sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_05_01_ipv6_website_test_proxy_clone/var_db_pkg                      sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025                                           sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/cf                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/23_09_01_ipv4_20240703094025/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4                                                          sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/cf                                                       sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_cache_pkg                                            sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv4/var_db_pkg                                               sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850                                           sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                     sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                     sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                     sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0                  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0                  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0                  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/cf@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0                  sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg                             sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0       sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0       sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0       sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_cache_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0       sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg                                sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:09:28-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-03-09:40:36-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2024-07-23-10:05:22-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/24_03_01_ipv6_20250113135850/var_db_pkg@2025-01-13-13:59:02-0          sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753                                            sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                      sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf                                         sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/cf@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0                   sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg                              sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_cache_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0        sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg                                 sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/auto-default-20240112115753/var_db_pkg@2024-01-12-11:57:53-0           sync      -         -
pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227                                                   sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/cf                                                sync      standard  default
pfSense/ROOT/quick-20240401123227/var_db_pkg                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/home                                                                        sync      standard  default
pfSense/reservation                                                                 sync      standard  default
pfSense/tmp                                                                         sync      disabled  local
pfSense/var                                                                         sync      disabled  local
pfSense/var/cache                                                                   sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
pfSense/var/db                                                                      sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
pfSense/var/log                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var
pfSense/var/tmp                                                                     sync      disabled  inherited from pfSense/var

                    logs and temp are now excluded from sync

                    and I also set

                    vfs.zfs.txg.timeout=120

                    I also use a secondary nvme drive just for package logs I have a mount point and created linker files that direct everything that is write intensive over to it. That helps alot also, and or you can use a usb thumb drive for package logs if anyone is really worried.

                    691b97ae-7284-4f19-af85-e2f8ac1c14a8-image.png

                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/195843/unofficial-guide-have-package-logs-record-to-a-secondary-ssd-drive-snort-syslog-squid-and-or-squid-cache-system/

                    Make sure to upvote

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                    • cmcdonaldC
                      cmcdonald Netgate Developer @fireodo
                      last edited by

                      @fireodo said in Another Netgate with storage failure, 6 in total so far:

                      Not here - once set it remains that way even after reboot.

                      Yes. This is correct. ZFS properties persist across reboots (unless they are changed by something during startup, say in pfSense-rc, though I don't think we do any of that)

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                        dugeem
                        last edited by

                        One additional issue to be aware of is that up until pfSense+ 24.03 the Netgate SG-1100 (& SG-2100) installation images resulted in eMMC having non aligned flash partitions. This can result in file system activity causing sub optimal block writing (due to sectors crossing erase boundaries) resulting in increased flash wear.

                        pfSense Redmine reference -> https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/15126

                        Easy to check - from shell use the command:

                        gpart show mmcsd0

                        and check numbers in first column for either freebsd / freebsd-zfs partitions are divisible by 8 (or a higher power of 2).

                        Generally if your SG-1100 (also SG-2100) was originally commissioned prior to pfSense+ 24.03 then you should consider reinstalling and restoring config.

                        Relevant Netgate SG-1100 documentation -> https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/sg-1100/reinstall-pfsense.html

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