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Remove device polling option from GUI

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    andriusst
    last edited by Aug 8, 2013, 8:04 PM

    IMHO it is always better to have a choice than not to. The moment it is removed someone will ask to bring it back.

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      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
      last edited by Aug 8, 2013, 8:48 PM

      ^ that, too.

      Maybe some Scary Warnings™ but it wouldn't get removed.

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        doktornotor Banned
        last edited by Aug 8, 2013, 8:55 PM

        Well, warnings would definitely be appreciated… Maybe with some real tested examples of where it actually helps, instead of doing the exact opposite.

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          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
          last edited by Aug 8, 2013, 9:03 PM

          The example there is valid, just not on everyone's hardware.

          We can't write a book next to every option though, at some point the burden must be on the user to know what they're doing. We can write some warnings, maybe link to some docs, but ultimately we can't stop everyone from shooting their own feet.

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            kejianshi
            last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 1:40 AM

            I like scary warnings.  ::)

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              Klaws
              last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 10:49 AM

              Warning:
              Won't make the sky blue.
              Won't make the grass green.

              Whatever, the presence of the device polling feature doesn't bother me much. Except that it can lead some people (including me) to suggest someone else to try out this setting, resulting in being the subject of public ridicule. Yup, me too ;-)

              However, if one can manage to pry the eyes off the Device Polling checkbox item, one will notice some other options further down, with the somewhat fuzzy "broken in some hardware drivers, and may impact performance with some specific NICs" remark.

              Um. Which ones are the broken drivers? And which specific NICs will make you suffer hard?

              What I'd consider to be totally cool would be a self-test procedure. Which runs totally automatically, rebooting and trying out all possible combinations and everything.

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                doktornotor Banned
                last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 11:07 AM

                @Klaws:

                However, if one can manage to pry the eyes off the Device Polling checkbox item, one will notice some other options further down, with the somewhat fuzzy "broken in some hardware drivers, and may impact performance with some specific NICs" remark.
                Um. Which ones are the broken drivers? And which specific NICs will make you suffer hard?

                I suspect naming those that work would be a whole lot easier… have yet to see one. The allegedly "supported" drivers are in man polling(4).

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                  athurdent
                  last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 12:07 PM Aug 9, 2013, 12:04 PM

                  @doktornotor:

                  The allegedly "supported" drivers are in man polling(4).

                  After reading man polling I tried that a few month ago with the em interfaces in my Lanner FW7530 because I though I could take some load off the ATOM CPU. I had to walk to that box afterwards and flip the power switch ;)
                  Good thing I used ifconfig to test polling and not the GUI switch.

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                    doktornotor Banned
                    last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 12:21 PM

                    @athurdent:

                    After reading man polling I tried that a few month ago with the em interfaces in my Lanner FW7530 because I though I could take some load off the ATOM CPU. I had to walk to that box afterwards and flip the power switch ;)
                    Good thing I used ifconfig to test polling and not the GUI switch.

                    What's seriously disturbing is - how can something so blatantly broken make it into official release kernels.

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                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                      last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 12:35 PM

                      …because it's not seriously broken for people that need it... (which, admittedly, is very few people these days)

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                        Klaws
                        last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 12:42 PM

                        So…move it into the "System Tunables"?

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                          jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                          last edited by Aug 9, 2013, 12:47 PM

                          Not quite that simple. It isn't just a matter of flipping a sysctl bit (which is what that page is for)

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