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    Upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, Limiters not passing

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @blikie
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      @blikie said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

      It seems to be generating unknown packets in filter logs no.10 console.

      Can you show us an example of that?

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        Gertjan @blikie
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        @blikie said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

        do with the newer unbound version on 2.6.. just a theory.

        I'm following upstream unbound development. pfSense doesn't include the latest version, but 1.13.2 is known to be good.

        This : the last two rules are the "limiter rules" for the IPv4 and IPv6 interfaces :

        eb44c027-092e-430e-845c-0662a2129d4b-image.png

        The situation :
        at home, using pfSense 2.6.0 in a VM, this works.
        at work, identical pfSense 2.6.0, same WAN type interfaces, upstream router/ISP - it doesn't.

        As far as I know : only NIC drivers are different.

        No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
        Edit : and where are the logs ??

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @blikie
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          @blikie said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

          But when u have more than 1 LAN interface active, limiters block internet access

          Meaning, if you disable all but one LAN it starts working? (maybe needs a reboot??)

          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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            thiasaef @SteveITS
            last edited by thiasaef

            Traffic Shaping with fq_codel worked just fine for me after upgrading from 2.4.5-p1 to 2.6.0, even with dual wan, but unbound did not play well, hence I downgraded ...

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              amrelsaqqa
              last edited by amrelsaqqa

              I am wondering how even 2.6.0 is officially released if two of the basic functions are not working at all!!

              I have struggled with the no connection issue, had two sleepless nights for just figuring that out, and rebuilding my system on 2.5.2.

              Thank goodness I still have a copy for the 2.5.2 installer image (they have removed it from the download links) quickly as fuck..

              When I tested 2.6.0, limiters broke the internet connection, even the captive portal was having issues.

              One issue for the captiveportal is that ICMP ping is not allowed for authenticated users !! and there is no setting to change this behavior!

              Also, sometimes the captiveportal failed to provide normal internet access after a successful login.

              My iPhone still asks me to login to the network, and when I do, I actually get the logout page (because I am actually logged in but the captiveportal still interrupting connections! )

              Not even a single workaround to get it working, the only solution was to reinstall 2.5.2

              Also, and before reverting to 2.5.2, I tried 2.7.0-DEVELOPMENT, just to try it by the way before reformatting..

              Same issues!

              Seems like 2.5.2 will be the golden release lol.

              I am really disappointed, I feel like the release team has no idea about the proper software testing and releasing process.

              And it’s more annoying when they remove the old stable release and quickly marking it as “deprecated “ in the update channel selection screen.

              If that’s the current readiness status of 2.6.0 and they deprecate 2.5.2, what if it was stable then lol?!!

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                2.5.2 is still available. So is 2.5.1 if you really wanted it:
                https://nyifiles.netgate.com/mirror/downloads/

                Limiters in general work fine. I've been trying to replicate this issue and so far have failed.

                Do you have any data from the captive portal issue? Similar to the reported udp issue, no outbound NAT? https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12834

                Steve

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                  tman222
                  last edited by tman222

                  Just wanted to chime in on this thread and mention that Limiters/FQ-Codel are working fine for me as floating rules on 2.6.0/22.01 using the instructions from post number 815 in the long FQ-Codel thread:

                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/815

                  Hope this helps.

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                  • JKnottJ
                    JKnott @neothesdony
                    last edited by

                    @neothesdony said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

                    any one have the same issue?

                    No, working fine here.

                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @JKnott
                      last edited by

                      I decided to update a 3100 we have that has limiters on most firewall rules on (the only) LAN, and all seems fine.

                      Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                      Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                        GeorgeCZ58 @SteveITS
                        last edited by

                        @steveits I'm currently checking it, and seems my Limiters block internet connection on interfaces of our XG 7100. How did you setup your limiters please? Thanks.

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                          SteveITS Galactic Empire @GeorgeCZ58
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                          @georgecz58 said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

                          How did you setup your limiters

                          How many of your interfaces have limiters? Above posts imply it's a problem if using limiters on more than one.

                          For our use the LAN rule allows from a specific IP to any, and:
                          baf7613b-93fa-48d0-a85a-4e80b81eb9e9-image.png
                          and the Upload3m limiter:
                          4e2efc85-827a-4307-b478-5b591429ad4f-image.png

                          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                            GeorgeCZ58
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                            My setup was usualy easy . I had limiters on only 2 interfaces - one is for guests and one for mobile phones. Before update it was working corectly, now it works only till I didnt run bigger upload/speedtest etc.. Then something happen and I cannnot reach internet anymore. This is setup of limiter: ef9e9c39-bd24-4456-8f25-12feaf14cda0-obrazek.png

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                              SteveITS Galactic Empire @GeorgeCZ58
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                              @georgecz58 Can you remove limiters on one of the two interfaces, for testing? Or maybe disable the guest interface?

                              I see our limiters use different schedulers…

                              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                                thiasaef @SteveITS
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                                @steveits I have limiters on both WANs (DSL & LTE) and they worked fine in 2.6.0.

                                Does no one else have issues with the DNS Resolver in 2.6.0? For me it randomly stopped responding to requests on some network interfaces - presumably those that have been inactive for a while. The only workaround was to manually restart the DNS Resolver. So basically "upgrade success -> no internet connection" for me as well ...

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                                  amrelsaqqa @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10

                                  Thank you!
                                  I didn’t notice it, so could you please let me know where this mirror list is linked to?

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    If you just click 'download' on the download page without selecting anything it will take you to the list.

                                    Steve

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                                      GeorgeCZ58 @SteveITS
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                                      @steveits I test also your setup. Also tested with only one interface. Now i tested again and I find, that ping is working. So only DNS stopped to work here.

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Are you able to see if that's all udp traffic or just DNS?

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                                          GeorgeCZ58 @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 I dont have idea how can I check if is UDP working, without dns - can you give me advice please :-) ? There is temp W server 2019 running, I can install on it whatever we need.

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                                            Earthlingz
                                            last edited by Earthlingz

                                            The same thing happened to me yesterday after upgrading to 2.6.0. I dont even have limiters set up. At first i thought it might be a realtek issue but i tried installing the drivers from here https://forum.netgate.com/topic/166746/realtek-re-kmod-missing-in-pfsense-2-6-repository and same thing happened still no internet. It might still be a realtek driver unless someone here with different NIC experiences the same problem. Check using Diag > Ping and the pfsense able to ping websites it just cant give internet to my network.

                                            So i gave up for now and reverted back to 2.5.2

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