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Upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, Limiters not passing

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  • A Offline
    amrelsaqqa
    last edited by amrelsaqqa Feb 19, 2022, 11:11 PM Feb 19, 2022, 11:00 PM

    I am wondering how even 2.6.0 is officially released if two of the basic functions are not working at all!!

    I have struggled with the no connection issue, had two sleepless nights for just figuring that out, and rebuilding my system on 2.5.2.

    Thank goodness I still have a copy for the 2.5.2 installer image (they have removed it from the download links) quickly as fuck..

    When I tested 2.6.0, limiters broke the internet connection, even the captive portal was having issues.

    One issue for the captiveportal is that ICMP ping is not allowed for authenticated users !! and there is no setting to change this behavior!

    Also, sometimes the captiveportal failed to provide normal internet access after a successful login.

    My iPhone still asks me to login to the network, and when I do, I actually get the logout page (because I am actually logged in but the captiveportal still interrupting connections! )

    Not even a single workaround to get it working, the only solution was to reinstall 2.5.2

    Also, and before reverting to 2.5.2, I tried 2.7.0-DEVELOPMENT, just to try it by the way before reformatting..

    Same issues!

    Seems like 2.5.2 will be the golden release lol.

    I am really disappointed, I feel like the release team has no idea about the proper software testing and releasing process.

    And it’s more annoying when they remove the old stable release and quickly marking it as “deprecated “ in the update channel selection screen.

    If that’s the current readiness status of 2.6.0 and they deprecate 2.5.2, what if it was stable then lol?!!

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by stephenw10 Feb 20, 2022, 3:52 PM Feb 20, 2022, 12:57 AM

      2.5.2 is still available. So is 2.5.1 if you really wanted it:
      https://nyifiles.netgate.com/mirror/downloads/

      Limiters in general work fine. I've been trying to replicate this issue and so far have failed.

      Do you have any data from the captive portal issue? Similar to the reported udp issue, no outbound NAT? https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/12834

      Steve

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        tman222
        last edited by tman222 Feb 20, 2022, 1:25 AM Feb 20, 2022, 1:24 AM

        Just wanted to chime in on this thread and mention that Limiters/FQ-Codel are working fine for me as floating rules on 2.6.0/22.01 using the instructions from post number 815 in the long FQ-Codel thread:

        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/112527/playing-with-fq_codel-in-2-4/815

        Hope this helps.

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          JKnott @neothesdony
          last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 1:57 AM

          @neothesdony said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

          any one have the same issue?

          No, working fine here.

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
          UniFi AC-Lite access point

          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            SteveITS Rebel Alliance @JKnott
            last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 2:37 AM

            I decided to update a 3100 we have that has limiters on most firewall rules on (the only) LAN, and all seems fine.

            Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
            When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
            Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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              GeorgeCZ58 @SteveITS
              last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 9:27 AM

              @steveits I'm currently checking it, and seems my Limiters block internet connection on interfaces of our XG 7100. How did you setup your limiters please? Thanks.

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                SteveITS Rebel Alliance @GeorgeCZ58
                last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 2:44 PM

                @georgecz58 said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

                How did you setup your limiters

                How many of your interfaces have limiters? Above posts imply it's a problem if using limiters on more than one.

                For our use the LAN rule allows from a specific IP to any, and:
                baf7613b-93fa-48d0-a85a-4e80b81eb9e9-image.png
                and the Upload3m limiter:
                4e2efc85-827a-4307-b478-5b591429ad4f-image.png

                Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                  GeorgeCZ58
                  last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 3:01 PM

                  My setup was usualy easy . I had limiters on only 2 interfaces - one is for guests and one for mobile phones. Before update it was working corectly, now it works only till I didnt run bigger upload/speedtest etc.. Then something happen and I cannnot reach internet anymore. This is setup of limiter: ef9e9c39-bd24-4456-8f25-12feaf14cda0-obrazek.png

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                    SteveITS Rebel Alliance @GeorgeCZ58
                    last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 3:12 PM

                    @georgecz58 Can you remove limiters on one of the two interfaces, for testing? Or maybe disable the guest interface?

                    I see our limiters use different schedulers…

                    Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                    When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                    Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                      thiasaef @SteveITS
                      last edited by thiasaef Feb 20, 2022, 3:42 PM Feb 20, 2022, 3:42 PM

                      @steveits I have limiters on both WANs (DSL & LTE) and they worked fine in 2.6.0.

                      Does no one else have issues with the DNS Resolver in 2.6.0? For me it randomly stopped responding to requests on some network interfaces - presumably those that have been inactive for a while. The only workaround was to manually restart the DNS Resolver. So basically "upgrade success -> no internet connection" for me as well ...

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                        amrelsaqqa @stephenw10
                        last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 3:52 PM

                        @stephenw10

                        Thank you!
                        I didn’t notice it, so could you please let me know where this mirror list is linked to?

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 3:55 PM

                          If you just click 'download' on the download page without selecting anything it will take you to the list.

                          Steve

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                            GeorgeCZ58 @SteveITS
                            last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 5:46 PM

                            @steveits I test also your setup. Also tested with only one interface. Now i tested again and I find, that ping is working. So only DNS stopped to work here.

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Feb 20, 2022, 9:42 PM

                              Are you able to see if that's all udp traffic or just DNS?

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                                GeorgeCZ58 @stephenw10
                                last edited by Feb 21, 2022, 8:02 AM

                                @stephenw10 I dont have idea how can I check if is UDP working, without dns - can you give me advice please :-) ? There is temp W server 2019 running, I can install on it whatever we need.

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                                  Earthlingz
                                  last edited by Earthlingz Feb 21, 2022, 8:18 AM Feb 21, 2022, 8:18 AM

                                  The same thing happened to me yesterday after upgrading to 2.6.0. I dont even have limiters set up. At first i thought it might be a realtek issue but i tried installing the drivers from here https://forum.netgate.com/topic/166746/realtek-re-kmod-missing-in-pfsense-2-6-repository and same thing happened still no internet. It might still be a realtek driver unless someone here with different NIC experiences the same problem. Check using Diag > Ping and the pfsense able to ping websites it just cant give internet to my network.

                                  So i gave up for now and reverted back to 2.5.2

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                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by Feb 21, 2022, 5:12 PM

                                    Most clients will attempt to send ntp traffic at least. You should see that in the states. It will probably try to use the interface IP directly though which may not hit the issue.
                                    You can just try a udp traceroute.

                                    Steve

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                                      GeorgeCZ58 @stephenw10
                                      last edited by Feb 21, 2022, 6:56 PM

                                      @stephenw10 no it seem, that it was working only because I have separated FW rules for ICMP and UDP. When I now make one rule for all and set here limiters, nothing was working.
                                      7892ba85-144d-409f-a873-fe164180aff3-obrazek.png

                                      One maybe strange think is, that I see in states traffic from devices that are few hours disconnected from network, this is ok? States arent reseting itself?

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                                        thiasaef @GeorgeCZ58
                                        last edited by Feb 21, 2022, 7:15 PM

                                        I bet my ass that the issue is related to the DNS Resolver being fucked up once again.

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                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @GeorgeCZ58
                                          last edited by Feb 22, 2022, 1:39 AM

                                          @georgecz58 said in upgrade 2.5.2 to 2.6.0, upgrade success, no internet conection:

                                          When I now make one rule for all and set here limiters, nothing was working

                                          There is two way traffic shown there but clients in the WIFI_231 subnet are unable to connect at all with that ruleset?

                                          With the separate rules enabled do you see states/traffic shown for all three protocols?

                                          Steve

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